Staubach v. Aikman v. Romo

[Gzus]

Throw in some rationalization. But the Haley v. Ware thread was interesting so I'm sure this one will blow up too. Which QB is the best Cowboy QB? Staubach, Aikman, or Romo (whenever his career ends)

Staubach: 11 Seasons, 1685 completions on 2958 attempts for 22,700 yards and 153 TDs & 109 Ints. 20 Rushing TDs on 410 rush attempts. Sacked 313 times. 7.7 yards/attempt average. career completion pct 57.0%. Career passer rating 83.4

Aikman: 12 Seasons, 2898 completions on 4715 attempts for 32,942 yards and 165 TDs & 141 Ints. 9 Rushing TDs on 327 rush attempts. Sacked 259 times. 7.0 yards/attempt average. career completion pct 61.5%. Career passer rating 81.6

Romo: 8 Seasons (4 playing), 1178 completions on 1857 attempts for 15,045 yards and 107 TD & 55 Ints. 3 Rushing TDs on 130 rush attempts. Sacked 99 times. 8.1 yards/attempt average. career completion pct 63.4%. Career passer rating 95.6


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FIGHT!!!


Yeah I'm gonna have to go with Romo He's our current QB so I have to believe he's gonna be our best and if you look at his numbers and extrapolate it looks like he'll blow all other Cowboy passing records outta the water.

If you say he'll play a total of 10 useful seasons then we can extrapolate it to be:
10 playing seasons: 2945 completions on 4642 attempts for 37,613 yards and 268 TDs and 138 Ints. 8 Rushing TDs on 325 rush attempts. Sacked 248 times. While all the other averages stay the same.

By the way he could very well increase his average by improving his game and further blow Aikman and Staubach outta the water. Of course he needs a ring or two to really compete but from a QB talent stand point I've got Romo ahead of Aikman then Staubach. I have Staubach last because Aikman has 3 rings to Staubach's 2 and I grew up watching Aikman so I'm kinda ignorant to the Staubach era


If A Mod could make this a poll it would be very much appreciated.

 

[Trace1015]

Its no contest aikman has lead us to 3 superbowls so hes the best
In football superbowls are all that matters

 

[SDCowboy]

As an individual, Romo is by leaps and bounds the best. If you want to count SBs then you'd have to go Aikman. I personally don't count team accomplishments as the deciding factor for a single player. Romo is the best QB this team has had, IMO. You cannot deny the fact that by the time Romo hangs them up he could possibly have doubled the franchises all time records.

 

[Gzus]

As an individual, Romo is by leaps and bounds the best. If you want to count SBs then you'd have to go Aikman. I personally don't count team accomplishments as the deciding factor for a single player. Romo is the best QB this team has had, IMO. You cannot deny the fact that by the time Romo hangs them up he could possibly have doubled the franchises all time records.

I agree I think you have to also factor into his numbers that those first two seasons were still growing seasons and he has just reached or close to reached his full potential just recently. So I could see him bettering his entire average and eventually blow everyone outta the water, in terms of Cowboy QBs.

 

[CoCo]

In some ways I think comparisons across eras is more difficult than comparing across positions.

I suspect there will be many who watched him who will say Roger has no Cowboy peer and will give absolutely no consideration to the other guys. The emotional attachment to Roger runs very deep for very many.

 

[Gzus]

In some ways I think comparisons across eras is more difficult than comparing across positions.

I suspect there will be many who watched him who will say Roger has no Cowboy peer and will give absolutely no consideration to the other guys. The emotional attachment to Roger runs very deep for very many.

I had strong attachments to Aikman because the Triplet Era was when I grew up so that was my childhood team. But I went Romo because I can see him possibly being better than Aikman. With a better coaching staff and a few additional pieces I could see a Romo dynasty.

 

[Tricericon]

Guys, passing gets easier and easier every year. You can't just compare number straight up between '79 and '09.

I threw this together in a hurry using PFR and FO so it may not be perfect but it'll get the point across.

Roger Staubach ranked 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 5th, 5th, 9th, and 11th in pass efficiency among qualifying NFL QBs in his 8 years as a starter.

Troy Aikman ranked 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 19th plus one more in the 11-15 (couldn't get '91 pinned down) range in the same stat during his career, discounting 89 90 99 and 2000. (He also played 16 playoff games, which if treated as another season would have been his best by far.)

Romo has ranked 5th, 6th, 7th and 10th.

As much as I love Romo, he's in the conversation with White and Meredith not Aikman and Staubach. Period.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Staubach, Aikman then Romo....

 

[Gzus]

Guys, passing gets easier and easier every year. You can't just compare number straight up between '79 and '09.

I threw this together in a hurry using PFR and FO so it may not be perfect but it'll get the point across.

Roger Staubach ranked 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 5th, 5th, 9th, and 11th in pass efficiency among qualifying NFL QBs in his 8 years as a starter.

Troy Aikman ranked 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 19th plus one more in the 11-15 (couldn't get '91 pinned down) range in the same stat during his career, discounting 89 90 99 and 2000. (He also played 16 playoff games, which if treated as another season would have been his best by far.)

Romo has ranked 5th, 6th, 7th and 10th.

As much as I love Romo, he's in the conversation with White and Meredith not Aikman and Staubach. Period.

I see your point and it's well made, but I think a SB win or two and Romo, with his numbers, will easily vault him in the minds of many Cowboy fans up and over those two. Especially after the last decade of mediocrity.

 

[SDCowboy]

I had strong attachments to Aikman because the Triplet Era was when I grew up so that was my childhood team. But I went Romo because I can see him possibly being better than Aikman. With a better coaching staff and a few additional pieces I could see a Romo dynasty.

I don't see any more dynasties happening. Too much relies on the refs' questionable calls and just plain luck in today's NFL.

 

[Gzus]

I'm thinkin long term here. Currently yeah I'd have to say in my mind it'd be Aikman, Staubach, Romo. But I could see Romo vaulting those two if he can win one or two. If Ben Raping Rothlisburger can win two, Romo can certainly do it.

 

[SDCowboy]

Guys, passing gets easier and easier every year. You can't just compare number straight up between '79 and '09.

I threw this together in a hurry using PFR and FO so it may not be perfect but it'll get the point across.

Roger Staubach ranked 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 5th, 5th, 9th, and 11th in pass efficiency among qualifying NFL QBs in his 8 years as a starter.

Troy Aikman ranked 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 19th plus one more in the 11-15 (couldn't get '91 pinned down) range in the same stat during his career, discounting 89 90 99 and 2000. (He also played 16 playoff games, which if treated as another season would have been his best by far.)

Romo has ranked 5th, 6th, 7th and 10th.

As much as I love Romo, he's in the conversation with White and Meredith not Aikman and Staubach. Period.

Where did you get these rankings? Aikman has an almost 1:1 TD:INT ratio. That's pretty bad. I can't imagine him ever being ranked 1st in pass efficiency. And I don't care what he was ranked then, Aikman couldn't dream of putting up the kind of numbers Romo does behind a horrible oline.

 

[Gzus]

Where did you get these rankings? Aikman has an almost 1:1 TD:INT ratio. That's pretty bad. I can't imagine him ever being ranked 1st in pass efficiency. And I don't care what he was ranked then, Aikman couldn't dream of putting up the kind of numbers Romo does behind a horrible oline.

Romo with the 90's dynasty O-line would be a nightmare for opposing teams.

 

[hammer1]

There's way more to it than stats. Staubach was the guy who more than anyone else made the Cowboys 'America's Team'...not to mention his much deserved moniker as 'Captain America' and he lead us to our first two SB victories. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Aikman...what a leader...on and off the field and one of the most accurate passers in NFL history. He led us out of the NFL wasteland and into the promised land to become the "Team of the Nineties" with 3 SB victories in a four year span. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Romo is a really good NFL QB with a chance to be great. Just the fact that he wasn't even drafted...yet has come so far...is the stuff of dreams. His opportunity to stand side-by-side with Staubach and Aikman is still in front of him. He has to win a SB or two to gain that stature.

What we have in Staubach, Aikman and Romo...are two legends and one player who has the chance to etch his name in the same stone as theirs. I sure hope he does it.

Hammer

 

[Gzus]

There's way more to it than stats. Staubach was the guy who more than anyone else made the Cowboys 'America's Team'...not to mention his much deserved moniker as 'Captain America' and he lead us to our first two SB victories. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Aikman...what a leader...on and off the field and one of the most accurate passers in NFL history. He led us out of the NFL wasteland and into the promised land to become the "Team of the Nineties" with 3 SB victories in a four year span. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Romo is a really good NFL QB with a chance to be great. Just the fact that he wasn't even drafted...yet has come so far...is the stuff of dreams. His opportunity to stand side-by-side with Staubach and Aikman is still in front of him. He has to win a SB or two to gain that stature.

What we have in Staubach, Aikman and Romo...are two legends and one player who has the chance to etch his name in the same stone as theirs. I sure hope he does it.

Hammer

Well put, now choose one :

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

There's way more to it than stats. Staubach was the guy who more than anyone else made the Cowboys 'America's Team'...not to mention his much deserved moniker as 'Captain America' and he lead us to our first two SB victories. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Aikman...what a leader...on and off the field and one of the most accurate passers in NFL history. He led us out of the NFL wasteland and into the promised land to become the "Team of the Nineties" with 3 SB victories in a four year span. He is enshrined in the Pro Football HOF.

Romo is a really good NFL QB with a chance to be great. Just the fact that he wasn't even drafted...yet has come so far...is the stuff of dreams. His opportunity to stand side-by-side with Staubach and Aikman is still in front of him. He has to win a SB or two to gain that stature.

What we have in Staubach, Aikman and Romo...are two legends and one player who has the chance to etch his name in the same stone as theirs. I sure hope he does it.

Hammer

Excellent post, I was too lazy to express myself so nicely... Thanks!

 

[bbgun]

God save us from the Rotisserie "numbers are everything" geeks.

 

[hammer1]

Well put, now choose one :

Since you twisted my arm...I choose Staubach. IMO he set the stage for everything and everyone who came after him.

Hammer

 

[JakeCamp12]

Staubach is one of the top 5 quarterbacks of All-Time, maybe top 10 players in NFL history. He is a top 5 greatest Cowboy of All-Time...Captain Comeback who defined the 2:00 minute drill and still hates to lose at anything that requires competition. I love Aikman and Romo, but they have a long road to go to equal what Staubach was and is today....it's not even close.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Romo isn''t as good as Danny White, and he certainly isn't in the conversation with regards to Aikman and Staubach....