tyke1doe
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But I'm not disputing that point so why bring it up?
It's a distinction without a difference.
You are missing the point. Of course perception can lead to truth but not in all cases. Perceiving something does not make it true.
Flippant? Do you really think that of me? If you know anything about magic you can not deny magicians use perception to deceive their audience. I only use this example to show you can not always trust what you perceive to be true. Perception was a word SAS used. I was not comparing magic to racism but you know that, you were just trying to deflect my point.
And as I've already stated, perception is not true in all cases and more to the point, not in this case.
The perceptions need to be dealt with by those doing the perceiving rather than projecting those perceptions onto society as truth. Yes, I've heard the phrase "perception is reality". It was made popular by futurist, psychologist, and self-described agnostic mystic, Robert Anton Wilson. I do not subscribe to his psycho-babble. If you do, that's your problem and you will not make it mine.
Stop right there. If we are going to start pretending we know what the other is thinking then we are going to get nowhere. You do not tell me what I am and am not considering. And you do not further exacerbate that by assuming it leads me to erroneous conclusions. Assuming you have knowledge of my thoughts will lead you down all kinds of false leads.
That's purely hypothetical and speculative.
Who is to say when a coaching job is deserved or earned? Not the fans... that excludes you and me and SAS. I'm not advocating for JG's job security. I'm arguing against SAS thinking he or anyone else but the Cowboys FO, can determine the standard that qualifies a person for that job. White, black, or purple has nothing to do with it.
In defining truth, it is first helpful to note what truth is not:
• Truth is not simply whatever works. This is the philosophy of pragmatism – an ends-vs.-means-type approach. In reality, lies can appear to “work,” but they are still lies and not the truth.
• Truth is not simply what is coherent or understandable. A group of people can get together and form a conspiracy based on a set of falsehoods where they all agree to tell the same false story, but it does not make their presentation true.
• Truth is not what makes people feel good. Unfortunately, bad news can be true.
• Truth is not what the majority says is true. Fifty-one percent of a group can reach a wrong conclusion.
• Truth is not what is comprehensive. A lengthy, detailed presentation can still result in a false conclusion.
• Truth is not defined by what is intended. Good intentions can still be wrong.
• Truth is not how we know; truth is what we know.
• Truth is not simply what is believed. A lie believed is still a lie.
• Truth is not what is publicly proved. A truth can be privately known (for example, the location of buried treasure).
The Greek word for “truth” is aletheia, which literally means to “un-hide” or “hiding nothing.” It conveys the thought that truth is always there, always open and available for all to see... in perpetuity.
I am using it in this discussion to attach a characteristic that the word "perception" lacks. Perception is a word SAS introduced to the discussion as if it conveys a quality of truth. It does not. Perception is a theory, a guess, a fill-in-the-hole thought that does not always lead to the truth.
I think I've done that above.
The Rooney rule was conceived with good intentions but ineptly put in place. It is too easily circumvented, by inviting minority candidates to interview for a job they have no real chance of being considered for if the decision makers have no intention of doing so. It is only a box checking exercise.
I appreciate you being extremely patient and listening to my points and hope with the best of intentions that we can communicate our opinions and at least come to some reasonable resolution. Communication is a two way street. When you post, I listen(read), I do my best to understand and consider your points and then weigh that with what I know to be true. Then I try to reply with my weighed response or counterpoint. I could be wrong but, I hope you are going through that same process.
You seem to be a good guy and I am not out to make enemies. In the interest of us understanding each other I think maybe if we understood where each other is coming from, we could just put our cards on the table and have a more honest back and forth conversation. If you are willing to agree to that, then I would be willing to start us off. Agreed?
I'm tempted to respond to your post, but I fear these type discussions are too exhaustive for this particular forum and generally lead to very lengthy conversations.
And while I admit I like having the last word, I also recognize that this discussion has likely drifted further than either you or I expected it to go.
So with that in mind, I'll say I agree with some of your points and other points I really don't understand how they fit into this topic.
But I'm glad we at the very least got back on a path of civil discussion sans the disrespect part I contributed to.
So let's agree to disagree and call it a night.