Stephen Jones said Cowboys need to fix the front 7

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Neither of them are capable of evaluating talent. And that is fine.

The worst thing they do is create a culture where they "listen" but are incapable of truly making educated decisions to break the tie. It is basically like flipping a coin instead of true analysis of pros and cons.

The lack of a "middle man" with real authority, in other words, a dedicated GM who has a title and accountability and is capable of campaigning strongly for a player or prospect is the problem. There is no doubters in this organization. You have two optimistic unskilled decision makers and a bunch of employees who are not capable of standing up for their convictions because they are lifetime employees with little to no direct accountability.

No real GM would have listened to an old geriatric like Kiffin and believe for a second that he can walk into the job and in the space of three months declare that the DL was a "strength" to the point where you literally add no talent, not even in the undrafted free agent market. Kiffin was able to do that because Jones listened to him, even when it was evident from the scouts that they believed there needed to be more added there. That is why Floyd was on the draft board that high. That is why Ciskowski made comments about not being able to get players "across the bridge".

Great, great post.

This is the main problem with the so called "group" thinking that the Cowboys employ. I understand that every team has a dedicated group of personnel evaluators that they need to rely on, but at some point, someone -- like, I don't know, a GM -- has to be able to separate the good information from the bad information, and use his own technical knowledge and experience to make a solid, informed decision that fits in with the overall football philosophy.

I've asked this question before, but I'd love to see someone in the DFW media ask it: when Jerry is in the draft room and he has a group of coaches or scouts disagreeing about what player to select, he has to break the tie. What specific knowledge does he rely on to make that decision? Is it game tape that he watched? Is it an understanding of how that player fits into the scheme? I'm pretty sure it's "I just rely on the opinion of whoever I last spoke to", but I'd like to see confirmation.

It's utterly mindboggling that he's still this bad at it. I truly believe I could stick a 20 something with an statistical background and no football knowledge in as GM and, he would outperform Jerry within 5 years.

 

[jterrell]

this thread is 7 pages deep so this has probably been asked. but is there any realistic scenario where we bring back:
Spencer, Ware, AND Hatcher?
Maybe restructure Ware, hope Spencer isn't offered too much on the market, and get Hatch on a 4 year deal. I'm asking because those three along with Selvie, Crawford, and a draft pick or two would make for a talented line with some serious depth.

realistically no.
keeping ware could easily happen.
restructure him and save money on 2014 cap is basically the modus operandi.
hatcher has simply played his way into big money and i dont see us paying it.
not with crawford and bass here to take that spot.
hatcher said before the season bass was good and would be the reason he isnt resigned.
thats probably going to come to fruition.

spencer is a total wildcard. complete health question mark and thus FA value question mark.

it would be nice to have 2 of the 3 back if they are going to be healthy.
if not then not sure it matters over whatever we can bring in behind them.

 

[jterrell]

Great, great post.

This is the main problem with the so called "group" thinking that the Cowboys employ. I understand that every team has a dedicated group of personnel evaluators that they need to rely on, but at some point, someone -- like, I don't know, a GM -- has to be able to separate the good information from the bad information, and use his own technical knowledge and experience to make a solid, informed decision that fits in with the overall football philosophy.

I've asked this question before, but I'd love to see someone in the DFW media ask it: when Jerry is in the draft room and he has a group of coaches or scouts disagreeing about what player to select, he has to break the tie. What specific knowledge does he rely on to make that decision? Is it game tape that he watched? Is it an understanding of how that player fits into the scheme? I'm pretty sure it's "I just rely on the opinion of whoever I last spoke to", but I'd like to see confirmation.

It's utterly mindboggling that he's still this bad at it. I truly believe I could stick a 20 something with an statistical background and no football knowledge in as GM and, he would outperform Jerry within 5 years.

the problem with that post is pretty simple.
the DL coaches didnt like Floyd in their scheme.
you dont draft guys who the coaches tell you dont fit what they want to do.

anyone today who'd take floyd over twill and frederick is just not very smart.

dallas does need a DT but they want a different type.

anyone blaming the draft last year is in need of mental health consultation.
it has been a fabulous draft.

 

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the problem with that post is pretty simple.
the DL coaches didnt like Floyd in their scheme.
you dont draft guys who the coaches tell you dont fit what they want to do.

anyone today who'd take floyd over twill and frederick is just not very smart.

dallas does need a DT but they want a different type.

anyone blaming the draft last year is in need of mental health consultation.
it has been a fabulous draft.

Where did I mention Floyd in my post? I said nothing about last year's draft.

I simply pointed out that when you have an bad GM with no technical knowledge allowing him to separate the wheat from the chaff, you are at the mercy of whoever happens to have the owner's ear at the right time.

It can sometimes work, but it's definitely not the best way to run a football team.