Stephen McGee keeps improving

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Why is this guy the king of the check down? He is ranked first in passing yards in the pre-season. He is also ranked first in yards per pass attempt in the pre-season. I saw a very active and accurate arm last night. I think with another year under his belt he is going to be a good #2 for Dallas once Kitna leaves.
 
joseephuss;4081517 said:
Why is this guy the king of the check down? He is ranked first in passing yards in the pre-season. He is also ranked first in yards per pass attempt in the pre-season. I saw a very active and accurate arm last night. I think with another year under his belt he is going to be a good #2 for Dallas once Kitna leaves.

Agree
 
He's definitely showing promise. Doesn't really seem to read defenses too quickly and tries to hold the ball too long at times, but he is taking pretty big strides. I think he almost certainly will be ready to step in as the primary backup next year.
 
joseephuss;4081517 said:
Why is this guy the king of the check down? He is ranked first in passing yards in the pre-season. He is also ranked first in yards per pass attempt in the pre-season. I saw a very active and accurate arm last night. I think with another year under his belt he is going to be a good #2 for Dallas once Kitna leaves.

I think he wants to start somewhere soon. With his experience and time put in with Garrett he should be pretty valuable. Probably worth a 2nd rounder and change if it continues.
 
Stautner;4081595 said:
Doesn't really seem to read defenses too quickly and tries to hold the ball too long at times,

He's got the arm to make up for it.
 
We will know exactly what Garrett thinks of him next year. His contract is up after next year so if he gets a extension they like him, if he is allowed to test free agency they didn't.... A trade will just mean they valued what they could get over further development.
 
joseephuss;4081517 said:
Why is this guy the king of the check down? He is ranked first in passing yards in the pre-season. He is also ranked first in yards per pass attempt in the pre-season. I saw a very active and accurate arm last night. I think with another year under his belt he is going to be a good #2 for Dallas once Kitna leaves.

I agree. I like him and think he has a future with us. He did make a mistake on the ints in the end zone but by and large he has looked good and seems to be steadily improving
 
VACowboy;4081605 said:
He's got the arm to make up for it.

The arm helps, and so does the running ability, but a lot of QB' have found out you can't make a living forcing things with a big arm, and you can't maintain a consistent offense with your legs. Those things need to compliment your game, not be the foundation of your game. That said, I don't think McGee does rely completely on a big arm (which I don't really see as that big - it's good, but not a canon by any stretch), but if he is ever going to become more than a solid backup in spot duty he will need to make quicker decisions.
 
MarionBarberThe4th;4081599 said:
I think he wants to start somewhere soon. With his experience and time put in with Garrett he should be pretty valuable. Probably worth a 2nd rounder and change if it continues.

That would be ideal if he could improve to actually being trade-bate for a decent pick.
 
With Kitna being about ready to hit the bricks next year, it appears the Cowboys will need to draft or acquire another QB for developmental purposes come 2012. In the meantime, it appears McGee shows a pretty good indication of being an adequate (or even better) #2 QB by next year at this time. His progress has been steady and encouraging. Let's hope it continues.
 
Platitudes are easy to spout off. Deeper thoughts and understanding the complexities to make the best informed conclusion is much more difficult.

If I were an NFL GM, I would search long and hard for the best QB Coach. Then I would always try to stockpile 6th and 7th round picks. Then draft a QB each year in the 6th or 7th round and try to see what we can develop.

If it works, it's extremely beneficial.

It would:

1) Possibly give us a quality backup QB each year.

2) Possibly give us a franchise starting QB

3) Possibly allow us to trade the backup for a 2nd rounder and other picks.

If it doesn't work, the worst you lose is a 6th or 7th rounder, who rarely make the team and do anything substantial in the NFL anyway. Plus, it would be an extra pick that we stockpiled.







YR
 
Stautner;4081595 said:
He's definitely showing promise. Doesn't really seem to read defenses too quickly and tries to hold the ball too long at times, but he is taking pretty big strides. I think he almost certainly will be ready to step in as the primary backup next year.

he will replace romo one day
 
wow, I must have been watching a different game because he did not look all that impressive to me. IMO his arm looks less than strong, his reads slow, many poor decisions - and this was playing against mostly 3rd stringers.

On the other hand, he was playing with 3rd stringers as well so maybe that's part of it.

In any event, I don't see him as our next franchise starter after Romo and I would feel more comfortable with Kitna if backup services came calling.
 
He certainly has made an improvement from the previous seasons which is all you can ask. Although, he was so lost his rookie season, any slight improvement looks drastic. There are still some times he looks insanely uncomfortable out there (locking onto receivers presnap/postsnap, throwing off the wrong foot, lack of pocket presence...), but he's shown enough to warrant a roster spot and continue development.
 
Stautner;4081611 said:
The arm helps, and so does the running ability, but a lot of QB' have found out you can't make a living forcing things with a big arm, and you can't maintain a consistent offense with your legs. Those things need to compliment your game, not be the foundation of your game. That said, I don't think McGee does rely completely on a big arm (which I don't really see as that big - it's good, but not a canon by any stretch), but if he is ever going to become more than a solid backup in spot duty he will need to make quicker decisions.

I agree completely. I think though that in two years you will see him possibly traded. I don't know how much longer Kitna will be the backup. Give McGee one year of being a good backup and some playing time (hopefully late in the regular season without Romo being hurt) and other teams will want to roll the dice on a proven player. JMO
 
The Seahawks traded a 3rd rounder and swapped 2nd rounders (40 and 60) with the Chargers for Charlie Whitehurst. A player they dont think is better than Tavaris Jackson.....

McGee, like Kevin Kolb, will score major points across the league for flashing a big arm and being well coached and ready to go.
 
Yakuza Rich;4081817 said:
Platitudes are easy to spout off. Deeper thoughts and understanding the complexities to make the best informed conclusion is much more difficult.

If I were an NFL GM, I would search long and hard for the best QB Coach. Then I would always try to stockpile 6th and 7th round picks. Then draft a QB each year in the 6th or 7th round and try to see what we can develop.

If it works, it's extremely beneficial.

It would:

1) Possibly give us a quality backup QB each year.

2) Possibly give us a franchise starting QB

3) Possibly allow us to trade the backup for a 2nd rounder and other picks.

If it doesn't work, the worst you lose is a 6th or 7th rounder, who rarely make the team and do anything substantial in the NFL anyway. Plus, it would be an extra pick that we stockpiled.

YR

Downside.
  1. Where do "stockpiled" 6th/7th round picks come from? Are we giving away players now that we could have garnered picks from? Its not free.
  2. Drafting one every year makes little sense given that they'll be a 3rd QB (not polished enough for #2), thereby one roster spot, so you can only carry one at a time. Those guys take a couple years just to see if they're worth further investment (see McGee). PS is probably not safe if the guy is worth anything.
  3. Haven't we learned by now that no draft pick is a throw-away?
I think Dallas has done exactly what you're suggesting with Romo and now McGee but there isn't roster room to do it much more intensely than what they're already doing.
 
CoCo;4082000 said:
Downside.
  1. Where do "stockpiled" 6th/7th round picks come from? Are we giving away players now that we could have garnered picks from? Its not free.
  2. Drafting one every year makes little sense given that they'll be a 3rd QB (not polished enough for #2), thereby one roster spot, so you can only carry one at a time. Those guys take a couple years just to see if they're worth further investment (see McGee). PS is probably not safe if the guy is worth anything.
  3. Haven't we learned by now that no draft pick is a throw-away?
I think Dallas has done exactly what you're suggesting with Romo and now McGee but there isn't roster room to do it much more intensely than what they're already doing.


And where are these guys going to get the playing time with a new guy every year? Especailly if the pre-season is shortened.

I think they are probably in line for a late round project in the next draft to be the #3 next year but nothing more than that. I like Russel Wilson or Kellen Moore.
 
MarionBarberThe4th;4082005 said:
And where are these guys going to get the playing time with a new guy every year? Especailly if the pre-season is shortened.

I think they are probably in line for a late round project in the next draft to be the #3 next year but nothing more than that. I like Russel Wilson or Kellen Moore.

Makes sense to think Dallas looks at QB's in next years draft since Kitna will be gone and Tony will be what 31? But I wouldn't assume it'll be a late rounder. Supposedly the team was going to take Dalton in the 2nd this year if he'd been there.
 

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