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Over the past couple of days I've been reading in several threads in here a growing sentiment for cutting Stephen. The explanations range from " he hasn't shown anything " to " he can't read defenses " to " he'll take a valuable roster spot ", etc..etc..

I vehemently disagree with cutting him for several reasons. For starters, he still hasn't had 2 full training camps under his belt yet. If the Cowboys are serious about developing a QB, it would be a complete joke getting rid of the one they CHOSED ( meaning they must have seen something in him ) barely a full year into his development. The NFL history is littered with examples of QBs taking 2, 3, 4 and in some cases 5 years to become starters, some of them because their original teams made the mistake of cutting them too early ( best example of them all: Johnny Unitas ).

In terms of saving a roster spot for that extra lineman or LB or DB or WR that looks " promising ", every single year the Cowboys have had those cases and I've yet to see many of them turn into " oh, what if ". However, we did witnessed a " oh, what if " QB being cut in order to keep one of those extra LB, lineman, or WR or DB, and turn into a starter a year later.

So my questions to those of you who want to get rid of him is how long should the Cowboys keep a developmental QB on the roster ? Should they cut developmental QBs after 1 year ? 2 years ? 3 years ?
 
Let me ask you this. If you cut McGee do you think he would clear waivers?
 
Timmy Mac said on the pregame show that he was told by those within the organization that there's almost NO chance that McGee gets cut this year.

In other words, it's bound to happen.
 
AdamJT13;3509690 said:
Timmy Mac said on the pregame show that he was told by those within the organization that there's almost NO chance that McGee gets cut this year.

In other words, it's bound to happen.
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LOL

I doubt we cut him, but I find myself hoping we look for other options. I don't see him ever moving above 3rd string. I need to feel like when Kitna is gone we still have a guy.
 
Randy White;3509683 said:
So my questions to those of you who want to get rid of him is how long should the Cowboys keep a developmental QB on the roster ? Should they cut developmental QBs after 1 year ? 2 years ? 3 years ?
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It depends.

Obviously QB is the most important position and you need to develop talent there. The Cowboys have seen McGee almost every day for two years. If they decide his development has not hit their expected thresholds, why waste a spot and more time on him? I am not saying this is the case but just because he was drafted in the fourth round as a developmental guy doesn't mean he has a spot for three years. The Packers took Brian Brohm at the 56th pick in the draft and either a year or two with him they decided they had to move on. If the Cowboys don't feel like he have made the progress they thought he could when they drafted him and deem him expendable, then it is best to move on now.

I don't know if he makes the team but my hope is you would want him to be the backup next year. As of now, I don't know if you can say he will be ready for that role next year.
 
Babe said that McGee just doesnt trust his instincts and he is just not where a 2nd year player should be.


Just becasue we drafted him in the 4th round doesnt mean we have to keep him if he sucks. Maybe we just blew the pick, maybe the scouts were just wrong about him.

All I know is that McGee is not one of the 53 best players on the team right now so why keep him???
 
Beast_from_East;3509700 said:
Babe said that McGee just doesnt trust his instincts and he is just not where a 2nd year player should be.


Just becasue we drafted him in the 4th round doesnt mean we have to keep him if he sucks. Maybe we just blew the pick, maybe the scouts were just wrong about him.

All I know is that McGee is not one of the 53 best players on the team right now so why keep him???
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He's a little bit more of a project than your typical rookie QB too though.
 
CATCH17;3509686 said:
Let me ask you this. If you cut McGee do you think he would clear waivers?
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Could ? yes, would ? most probably not.

I can think of at least 4 teams out of the top of my head who would probably put a claim for him ( Jacksonville, Seattle, San Francisco, Washington )..
 
While I agree this kid need has no future here...there is no way they get rid of him after a full year. They'll give him at least another full season, mini camp, and preseason to show something.
 
McGee has shown zero progress as far as what I see.

Example.

The guy is known as 'Check Down' McGee.

So on the one play where the Cowboys are nursing a 2 point lead late in the game and it's a 3rd and long he decides to take an 11 yard sack instead of doing what he always does and checking it down...

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Just unload the ball into the turf in front of the RB who slid past the LOS!

The last thing you do there is give the opposing team another 11 yards so they are that much closer for the game winning FG.

:banghead:
 
I'm squarely in the camp that says you don't cut your losses on a promising draft pick until they have proven over the course of "3 years" that they don't belong. Although, his current performance (or lack thereof) leaves plenty to be desired, I still think he deserves to have more than a year to acclimate himself to performing at the NFL level.
 
chicago JK;3509701 said:
It depends.

Obviously QB is the most important position and you need to develop talent there. The Cowboys have seen McGee almost every day for two years..
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I'm sorry, but I think this is where perception doesn't meet reality. Stephen is starting his 2nd year in the league. There's no possible way the Cowboys have seen him every day for 2 years yet. He's had 1 3/4ths training camp, 1 full year as the 3rd string QB, 1 complete off-season program.
 
dcfanatic;3509713 said:
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Just unload the ball into the turf in front of the RB who slid past the LOS!

The last thing you do there is give the opposing team another 11 yards so they are that much closer for the game winning FG.

:banghead:
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That happened so fast... I believe a good number of young QBs would have taken the same sack at that speed. He had nowhere to go. Replay may make it seem as though he could have chucked it but that's replay. In real time, most QBs eat it when a guy is in your face immediately at the apex of the drop back. Only vets have the ability to make something out of that type of sack & he's still green.
 
CATCH17;3509702 said:
He's a little bit more of a project than your typical rookie QB too though.
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plus, he's probably better than Babe ever was...does no one remember how terrible the guy was at actually playing football?

As an aggie, I have mixed emotions about McGee. I think he got a raw deal at A&M, he's smart, loyal, and has all the tools. On the other hand, it seems he has the same problem now he always had in school- namely if the receiver isn't open like Jordan Shipley was in HS, he won't throw the ball (they were teammates). He just doesn't see the field well.

With that said, nothing makes me bang my head against the wall more than hearing people say they aren't seeing what they want out of him and that he should be cut. Aikman (or insert basically any rookie QB ever) looked no better his rookie year at the end of a full season than McGee has after playing in basically the equivalent of 3 preseason games total. If a QB needs to be developed, that means 1- he'll make bad decisions. 2- does not read the field quick enough. 3- sometimes rushes and misses a throw. If he doesn't do those things wrong, he's an NFL starter...or a lifelong backup like Garrett (who made the right decisions, but didn't have the actual skill set to be a starter). Keeping McGee is a no brainer- and there is no shot whatsoever he makes it through waivers. And McGee's floor and Nichols ceiling.
 
aggiecurt05;3509721 said:
With that said, nothing makes me bang my head against the wall more than hearing people say they aren't seeing what they want out of him and that he should be cut. Aikman (or insert basically any rookie QB ever) looked no better his rookie year at the end of a full season than McGee has after playing in basically the equivalent of 3 preseason games total. If a QB needs to be developed, that means 1- he'll make bad decisions. 2- does not read the field quick enough. 3- sometimes rushes and misses a throw. If he doesn't do those things wrong, he's an NFL starter...or a lifelong backup like Garrett (who made the right decisions, but didn't have the actual skill set to be a starter). Keeping McGee is a no brainer- and there is no shot whatsoever he makes it through waivers. And McGee's floor and Nichols ceiling.
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Oh, yes he did. Aikman was amazing from the first snap, he just didn't have any help.
 
dcfanatic;3509713 said:
McGee has shown zero progress as far as what I see.

The guy is known as 'Check Down' McGee.

So on the one play where the Cowboys are nursing a 2 point lead late in the game and it's a 3rd and long he decides to take an 11 yard sack instead of doing what he always does and checking it down...Just unload the ball into the turf in front of the RB who slid past the LOS! The last thing you do there is give the opposing team another 11 yards so they are that much closer for the game winning FG.
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Come on man, look at that play again. Young completely whiffed on his block, his man spun him around, and McGee barely had time to set his feet. He was under pressure from the outside and the middle. He tries to throw the ball and there's a possibility it results in him fumbling it from getting hit.

About the only thing he could have done there was assume his RT was going to miss his block and throw the ball away in his 3rd step, only it was a 5 step drop from the shutgun.
 
I'm divided on the McGee thing, mostly because almost all QB's are developmental guys, especially guys taken outside the top-10 picks or so. He didnt come from a prostyle passing attack either. Then he got hurt last yr in preseason and missed alot of time. So this is really his first full training camp.

If we had no intention of giving whoever we drafted 2-3 training camps/preseasons, we shouldnt have drafted a guy to begin with.
 
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