Stoops, Mora or Nutt

[GimmeTheBall!]

Very creative.

I already warned him about International Law that prohibits this kind of unnecessary word play.

 

[Yeagermeister]

If those are our three choices we're screwed.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Stoops came to Dallas (Big what if), who would he bring in as staff? Let me just throw out Chuck Long as a potential hire. Before everybody jumps all over this, let me just say that Long is pretty highly though of in a lot of football circles. A former Pro QB and a member of the College Football HOF. Here is his coaching Resume.

Chuck Long transitioned to a career as a football coach. He returned to his alma mater in 1995, serving as Iowa's defensive backs coach. Though Long had no coaching experience and had played on the offensive side of the ball for his entire career, he quickly became a respected defensive coach. In his three seasons coaching defensive backs from 1995-1997, Iowa posted a 24-12 record and advanced to a bowl game all three years. Iowa led the nation in interceptions returned for touchdowns in 1995, while the 1997 squad led the Big Ten in interceptions.

Long switched to coaching Iowa's quarterbacks and special teams in 1998. After the 1998 season, Iowa coach Hayden Fry retired, and though Long was considered for the job, Fry was ultimately succeeded by Kirk Ferentz. Ferentz retained Long from Fry's staff, and Long served Ferentz in the same capacity for the 1999 season.

After five seasons coaching at Iowa, Long left the Hawkeyes to become the quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma. Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops and Long were teammates on Iowa's 1982 Rose Bowl team. Long was an assistant on the Oklahoma team that claimed the 2000 Bowl Championship Series national title. He coached quarterback Josh Heupel to a second place finish in the Heisman Trophy balloting that year.

After the 2001 season, Long was promoted to Oklahoma's offensive coordinator position. Oklahoma won the Rose Bowl following the 2002 season, and in 2003, the Sooners set a Big 12 Conference record by averaging 51.5 points per game.

In 2004, Chuck Long was named as a finalist for the Broyles Award as the nation's top assistant coach. He was an assistant coach at Oklahoma for six seasons, including four as an offensive coordinator, and Oklahoma compiled a 67-11 record during his time there.

After the 2005 season, Long landed his first head coaching position. On December 17, 2005, he was hired as the head football coach at San Diego State University.

 

[zeromaster]

I think most posters (after you get past the personal or school bias) are only interested in a college coach if

• he has successful past pro experience
• is currently a head coach whose team has made serious noise in the bowl season
• runs a system that translates favorably at the pro level
• is producing at least a few stars that have some kind of impact at the pro level, AND
• his team continues to show improvement and is getting significant wins in recruiting

My take:

If a college coach is doing all that, and the alumni love him, only his own ego is going to tell him he should take a step up. That stacks the cards against such a hire.

Sure money talks, but the media scrutiny and lack of total control have to be weighed against the money. Now if such a coach has the above, and the strength of character to think he can make it work and wants to walk away from all that he has, probably you should give him a serious look.

Someone tell us how the Stoops, Mora, and Nutt stack up against those bullets, and leave the emotional stuff aside for the moment. I think Stoops has some more to prove in the big game department. Mora could be a victim of the Atlanta situation (I don't buy M Vick's opinion much), but I'd rather someone else take that risk. Nutt is still in a proving stage, though Arkansas is in an upswing, it's not won a championship in the SEC or nationally.

If Jerry hires Nutt, I take it as another Swtzer-like move: he feels the talent is already in place, and one of his friends can make it work. That thinking would probably be a step backwards.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If Stoops came to Dallas (Big what if), who would he bring in as staff? Let me just throw out Chuck Long as a potential hire. Before everybody jumps all over this, let me just say that Long is pretty highly though of in a lot of football circles. A former Pro QB and a member of the College Football HOF. Here is his coaching Resume.

Chuck Long transitioned to a career as a football coach. He returned to his alma mater in 1995, serving as Iowa's defensive backs coach. Though Long had no coaching experience and had played on the offensive side of the ball for his entire career, he quickly became a respected defensive coach. In his three seasons coaching defensive backs from 1995-1997, Iowa posted a 24-12 record and advanced to a bowl game all three years. Iowa led the nation in interceptions returned for touchdowns in 1995, while the 1997 squad led the Big Ten in interceptions.

Long switched to coaching Iowa's quarterbacks and special teams in 1998. After the 1998 season, Iowa coach Hayden Fry retired, and though Long was considered for the job, Fry was ultimately succeeded by Kirk Ferentz. Ferentz retained Long from Fry's staff, and Long served Ferentz in the same capacity for the 1999 season.

After five seasons coaching at Iowa, Long left the Hawkeyes to become the quarterbacks coach at Oklahoma. Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops and Long were teammates on Iowa's 1982 Rose Bowl team. Long was an assistant on the Oklahoma team that claimed the 2000 Bowl Championship Series national title. He coached quarterback Josh Heupel to a second place finish in the Heisman Trophy balloting that year.

After the 2001 season, Long was promoted to Oklahoma's offensive coordinator position. Oklahoma won the Rose Bowl following the 2002 season, and in 2003, the Sooners set a Big 12 Conference record by averaging 51.5 points per game.

In 2004, Chuck Long was named as a finalist for the Broyles Award as the nation's top assistant coach. He was an assistant coach at Oklahoma for six seasons, including four as an offensive coordinator, and Oklahoma compiled a 67-11 record during his time there.

After the 2005 season, Long landed his first head coaching position. On December 17, 2005, he was hired as the head football coach at San Diego State University.

Harassing the Texas Longhorns silly during that bowl game (Sun Bowl?) many moons ago.
The next poster is correct about us having lots of college biases.

Yes on Stoops!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

IMHO Stoops could get the most of our defense, whether it be 3-4 or 4-3.

But I, too, am preparing for the worst. And in my book that would be Wade Phillips. Well, actually, the very worst would be Dennis Green. But Jerra is not that crazy. I think.

You know what I would like.

Wade Phillips or one of the Ryans as the DC and Norv as the OC.

Then I really don't have a problem who you put in as the HC as long as he let the DC and OC do their jobs.

Heck you could hire Foster Brooks as the HC and have him stumbling around the sidelines smiling at the players.

Just give me a stout defense and an offense that can hold it's own but does not get to cute for it's own good and we will win games.


As far as college bias goes...not a factor for me. I don't care for any of the texas college teams or oklahoma. I absolutely hate Notre Dame but would like Weiss as a HC.

So none of that in my equation.

I just think stoops and his team has underachieved with players that should have made that team win more games and bowl games.

If people get upset at Bill for having the players but not getting them to win, not sure how they could turn around and want stoops with some of his losses.

Boise State may be a heck of a team, but for a team like Oklahoma, they should have won out because no matter how good Boise State is they would not have the quality of talent in the depth dept that a Oklahoma had.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You know what I would like.

Wade Phillips or one of the Ryans as the DC and Norv as the OC.

Then I really don't have a problem who you put in as the HC as long as he let the DC and OC do their jobs.

Heck you could hire Foster Brooks as the HC and have him stumbling around the sidelines smiling at the players.

Just give me a stout defense and an offense that can hold it's own but does not get to cute for it's own good and we will win games.

and Bob Stoops reminds me of Steve Spurrier

great college player, couldn't cut it in the pros, great college coach, 1 National Championship

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

and Bob Stoops reminds me of Steve Spurrier

great college player, couldn't cut it in the pros, great college coach, 1 National Championship

Maybe...I may not want stoops but I don't think he is bad off as Spurrier...yet.

Spurrier did not even want to put the time into it going into the NFL...I remember interviews where he made fun of other coaches spending too much time game planning and such.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Maybe...I may not want stoops but I don't think he is bad off as Spurrier...yet.

Spurrier did not even want to put the time into it going into the NFL...I remember interviews where he made fun of other coaches spending too much time game planning and such.

I'm just saying the paths these 2 have gone on are uncanny