Stop All The Whining Guys!!

Ceasaleo88

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Damn u would think we're 0-4 and not 2-2, all I've been seeing is moaning and groaning. We had a tough 4 games to open the season. Maybe u guys didn't see what SD did to NE yesterday. If I had said that we would be 2-2 going into the Philly game b4 the season, I bet the majority of ya'll would have agreed. We're not gonna be 5-11 or 6-10, just pump ur brakes for a second. This team hasn't even jelled yet, we still have young players making young mistakes. Come back and cry in late Nov or Dec., right now I'm tired of it. Don't start all the whining after a month JEEZ!
 

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Ceasaleo88 said:
Damn u would think we're 0-4 and not 2-2, all I've been seeing is moaning and groaning. We had a tough 4 games to open the season. Maybe u guys didn't see what SD did to NE yesterday. If I had said that we would be 2-2 going into the Philly game b4 the season, I bet the majority of ya'll would have agreed. We're not gonna be 5-11 or 6-10, just pump ur brakes for a second. This team hasn't even jelled yet, we still have young players making young mistakes. Come back and cry in late Nov or Dec., right now I'm tired of it. Don't start all the whining after a month JEEZ!

If it were that...I would be cool. IT"S FREAKIN PAYTON AND ZIMMY WUSS....:laugh2:

They obvioulsy love the game hot potato...they are getting really good at it.
 

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Why do i keep reading we had 4 tough games to open the season? The Commanders? Who didn't think we'd win that game? Who actually considered the Commanders a "tough" team? Be honest. SAN FRANCISCO? That's a tough team? Pass me the bong, dude.
 

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Kilyin said:
Why do i keep reading we had 4 tough games to open the season? The Commanders? Who didn't think we'd win that game? Who actually considered the Commanders a "tough" team? Be honest. SAN FRANCISCO? That's a tough team? Pass me the bong, dude.

Yeah, for a team who finished 6-10 last season, every game is considered a tough games. Maybe you been drinking too much of the Parcell and Jerry Jones kool aid but this team is far from being good or even average. Dude, what was your expectation coming into this season? What, 16-0 and winning game by 50 point or more.
 

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Hey Payton, I'd like to see 1 freakin deep pattern to Glenn in the freakin 1st half of one freakin game you conservative freak. Incomplete or not, spread out the other teams defense, give our running game a chance. We are play calling like a bunch of sissies. Sling the dang ball downfield when you not playing from behind and you might be surprised. P.S. That was me yelling at you at the Raiders game!
 

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Any road game is tough. Any division game is tough. Any game played with a new defense is tough.
 

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I certainly do not feel the sky is falling, though I do think things are about to get a bit tougher for this club.

The "stop whining" threads have become more redundant than the complaining itself. Can we dispense with this crusade of trying to shut down the naysayers? Because they're just as entitled and there is no shutting them up. Just as there is no silencing the happy fans.

Through good and bad, this is what we, as fans, do. And we are all fans. Though some here would have you believe they are more than that.
 

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BayArea Cowboy said:
Hey Payton, I'd like to see 1 freakin deep pattern to Glenn in the freakin 1st half of one freakin game you conservative freak. Incomplete or not, spread out the other teams defense, give our running game a chance. We are play calling like a bunch of sissies. Sling the dang ball downfield when you not playing from behind and you might be surprised. P.S. That was me yelling at you at the Raiders game!

YEAH!!!:mad:
 

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DMX690 said:
Yeah, for a team who finished 6-10 last season, every game is considered a tough games. Maybe you been drinking too much of the Parcell and Jerry Jones kool aid but this team is far from being good or even average. Dude, what was your expectation coming into this season? What, 16-0 and winning game by 50 point or more.


If Vinny hadn't gotten a desperation callback from Herman Edwards, damn near all of last year's offense would be unemployed.

New defensive scheme, two first round draft picks on defense, etc.

Apples and oranges, sir.

My expectations about our season record are irrelevant. My expectation that we stop giving games away is pretty reasonable if you ask me.
 

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abersonc said:
Any road game is tough. Any division game is tough. Any game played with a new defense is tough.


Guess what?

Good teams win tough games.
 

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dragon_mikal said:
Guess what?

Good teams win tough games.

Guess what?

Right now, the Dallas Cowboys our a below average team.
 

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DMX690 said:
Guess what?

Right now, the Dallas Cowboys our a below average team.

No...right now the Cowboys are an above average team with below average coaching.
 
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Ceasaleo88 said:
Damn u would think we're 0-4 and not 2-2, all I've been seeing is moaning and groaning. We had a tough 4 games to open the season. Maybe u guys didn't see what SD did to NE yesterday. If I had said that we would be 2-2 going into the Philly game b4 the season, I bet the majority of ya'll would have agreed. We're not gonna be 5-11 or 6-10, just pump ur brakes for a second. This team hasn't even jelled yet, we still have young players making young mistakes. Come back and cry in late Nov or Dec., right now I'm tired of it. Don't start all the whining after a month JEEZ!


Why do people have to deny their feelings. Three straight years of bad decisions and 5-11 seasons, the team is exactly .500 in the Parcells era (going on his third year), we were expecting a lot more than that. When the winning improves I am sure the whinning will stop.
 

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Kilyin said:
Why do i keep reading we had 4 tough games to open the season? The Commanders? Who didn't think we'd win that game? Who actually considered the Commanders a "tough" team? Be honest. SAN FRANCISCO? That's a tough team? Pass me the bong, dude.



well we beat a good team, lost aginst a poor one, beat a bad team, lost to a good one, so what does that say about our team


ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING.

WE spend more of our time hitting our heads againts the wall. Guys how many TD's did randy moss get. How many TD's did the radiers get. How far away were we from beating a good team. We're young just begging with no chemistry or real identy did you really think we were gonna come out and beat down teams. Yes we were all "HOPING" for a blowout victory (me included) but it doesnt mean that we suck.
 

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and now i leave for the majority of the week, i hate the depressness around the board right now, i'll wait till we win, against the eagles to come back and see everybdoy drinking the koolaide again:D:D
 

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No...right now the Cowboys are an above average team with below average coaching.

right on! Talent-wise, I'd say we're well into the top half of the league. We have very good players and very good depth at most positions. I feel like our only weak player positions are FS, K, and C. LB is moderate.
Most teams would love to have as many quality players as we have. Most teams would win more games with our talent.
Wash sure doesn't have near our talent, yet they're 3-0 despite a garbage offense.
I think given the talent we have, most of us just don't expect to lose to some of the worst teams in the league or have to come from behind in the 4th to beat other worst teams in the league. When a team's talent outweighs its success, the problem is obviously coaching. The last several years, we were a bad team because we didn't have much talent, the coachign wasn't great either. We have talent this year. No excuses for Zimmer or Payton. They are....the weakest link....
and I'm tired of people saying..."but the teams we have played were good." BS! All NFL teams are somewhat "good." They're in the NFL! Relative to reality though....
San Diego was good but they were without Gates. Wash is garbage. San Fran is the worst team in football. Oakland is only slightly better than San Fran and i assure you that just about all the teams left on our schedule are better than what we've played so far. So if we keep losing and making the excuse that the other team is good, who's left for us to beat? no one, and that's just who we'll beat if the coaching on d and the playcalling on offense doesn't get better. say what you want, but we're grossly underachieving right now and that's almost always the coaches' fault.
 

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Kilyin said:
If Vinny hadn't gotten a desperation callback from Herman Edwards, damn near all of last year's offense would be unemployed.

New defensive scheme, two first round draft picks on defense, etc.

Apples and oranges, sir.

My expectations about our season record are irrelevant. My expectation that we stop giving games away is pretty reasonable if you ask me.

That's exactly it!!! :hammer:


In fact...it's the rookies that have been playing very well. The vets and coaches are the ones...ahh never mind can't say that.
 
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