Stop blaming Bledsoe

NoLuv4Jerry

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this defense was not on the field all day. In fact I think we almost DOUBLED them in TOP.
 

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Tennione72;1080517 said:
What do you expect from a defense when they're on the field all day trying to overcome turnovers, bad field position, and 3 and outs. The offense with the exception of #21 loss that game and who runs the offense. BLEDSOE


Pssssst....we controlled the clock. not the Eagles. BY FAR.

You can't put Watkins failings on the offense in this one.
 

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Actually, we held the ball for 20:15 in the second half.

Any more guesses?
 

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what drive's me nuts about bledsoe is he is a statue back. as a quarterback
you a mental clock of about three seconds, then it is time to throw it away or run. also, when philly would show the blitz straight up the gut, how about
an audible drew. lets just snap the ball and let get sacked while you are still in your backpeddle. he has been in the league way to long to keep making these mistakes. do the cowboys even believe in the shotgun? with a quarterback that immobile it might help.
 

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Jake0;1079171 said:
When your QB has as many ints and fumbles as bledsoe did in our 2 losses, kinda ruins the whole, NO MORE THAN 17 POINTS ALLOWED argument. If you want to drive the bus, you don't have that many turnovers, PERIOD.

I would rather have Brad johnson than Bledsoe. Johnson may not be flashy but he won't turn the ball over either.
 

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bbailey423;1079164 said:
I may be a first time poster, but I have reading this board for quite some time. My account did not let me post for some reason, but I have gotten it fixed and you all will hear more from me

It is easy and en vogue to blame the QB. Every time Drew has a bad game everyone points the finger at him. I am not coming to his defense, because I feel like I know what we got in this guy....especially against good teams. It is times like this where I choose to follow the money trail. The Cowboys head coach is a defensive minded coach. The tone, money, and future of this team has been built around the defense. Any time we allow 31 points we don't deserve to win. Do you realize how many guys on defense got a bigger signing bonus than Drew? Do you realize how many guys on defense have a higer draft pick invested in them besides Drew?

For starters, we did not give up a draft pick for Drew, so EVERYONE on defense besides Henry, Ferguson and Ayodele cost us more from a draft pick perspecrtive. Secondly, Ellis, Roy, Newman, Henry, James, Ferguson, Spears, Ayodele, Ware, ALL of them got bigger signing bonuses than Drew. Anyone else see where this is going. Drew was brought into drive the bus.

This defense was built to be a sack machine! This defense was built to apply consistent pressure on the QB. This defense was built to allow 17 points a game MAX! So I personally couln't care less what happened on offense when we give up 31 points. I couldn't care less when we allow guys who I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD of catch the ball all day long. And part of it is coaching. Why the heck do we invest in all of these expensive parts and make them play so passive. Why make the CBs keep everything in front of them? Why force a rookie 5th round pick into coverage? Why force a SS into coverage so much. WHERE THE HECK was Roy today. Part of his game is putting a lick on somebody, anybody to shake the entire pysche of the opposition. We constantly backpedal on defense. If we are going to read and react, we might as well have NOT spent top 10 picks and double digit signing bonuses on guys. ANYBODY can freaking do that. Our approach to defense is awful.

Lastly, WE WAITED TO LONG TO ABANDON the 3-4. Heck we should have not even played the 3-4 yesterday as our base defense. I could carry this topic on for hours, but all I know is one team was in the QBs lap all day with the 4-3. One team was able to cover Terry Glenn and Owens and Witten and Jones with a 4-3. The other team could not cover anyone with a 3-4. Guess which team was which yesterday
you have got to be kidding
 

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I have to be kidding? Go listen to Parcells press conference. He is not placing as much of the blame at Bledsoe's feet as most are.
 

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bbailey423;1081081 said:
I have to be kidding? Go listen to Parcells press conference. He is not placing as much of the blame at Bledsoe's feet as most are.
he never blames his qbs in pc's
 

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LilPlayaJosh;1080943 said:
I would rather have Brad johnson than Bledsoe. Johnson may not be flashy but he won't turn the ball over either.

This Brad Johnson talk is stupid.

Hell, if we are going to play that game, I would rather have Ladanian Tomlinson than Julius and Brian Urlacher instead of Ayodele ......

Some seem to think that the team screwed up by not going out and getting a player that for all we know we never could have had a shot at anyway.
 

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Stautner;1081101 said:
This Brad Johnson talk is stupid.

Hell, if we are going to play that game, I would rather have Ladanian Tomlinson than Julius and Brian Urlacher instead of Ayodele ......

Some seem to think that the team screwed up by not going out and getting a player that for all we know we never could have had a shot at anyway.

First of all LT is the best running back in the league. I would have said Manning or Palmer in that case. I'm not saying we should have gotten Brad Johnson. All I'm getting at is Bledsoe is supposed to be light years better than Brad Johnson yet Bledsoe always seems to fumble and throw INT's when Brad Johnson hardly ever does. He may not give us 5 TD's to a sorry defense like Bledsoe, but he will rarely play as bad as Bledsoe seems to play. He also definately doesn't have two of the best receivers in the league on his side. But I'm just saying it would be nice to have a QB you know won't put you in bad situations and turn the ball over in critical games not that we should specifically sign him.
 

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Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.
 

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LilPlayaJosh;1081175 said:
First of all LT is the best running back in the league. I would have said Manning or Palmer in that case. I'm not saying we should have gotten Brad Johnson. All I'm getting at is Bledsoe is supposed to be light years better than Brad Johnson yet Bledsoe always seems to fumble and throw INT's when Brad Johnson hardly ever does. He may not give us 5 TD's to a sorry defense like Bledsoe, but he will rarely play as bad as Bledsoe seems to play. He also definately doesn't have two of the best receivers in the league on his side. But I'm just saying it would be nice to have a QB you know won't put you in bad situations and turn the ball over in critical games not that we should specifically sign him.

Who says Bledsoe is supposed to be light years ahead of Brad Johnson .......?

I agree that we could stand a QB upgrade, but the conversation needs to focus on reality, and the reality is that Brad Johnson isn't a consideration. Otherwise we might as well just sit and list all the people at all positions that we would like to have.

It's Romo or nothing.
 

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StarAmongStars;1081191 said:
Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.
say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?
 

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bigbadroy;1081211 said:
say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?

Look at the numbers - he hasn't thrown almost as many picks as TD's.

Aikman, on the other hand, has thrown almost as many picks as TD's - what does that tell you?
 

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bigbadroy;1081211 said:
say we go to the playoffs. what happens when we play chicago. bledsoe will be on his back all day. you keep saying how bledsoe is a hof qb cause of his passing yards. are you aware he has thrown almost as many picks as tds in his career?

Yes because an old school gunslinger.....I'm not concerned with QB ratings, sacks or INT's because that stuff is going to happen when your looking to win football games.

Let's also consider that Bledsoe has played on some pretty bad teams during his career.....so that is part of the reason that his TD/INT ratio isn't the greatest either.
 

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StarAmongStars;1081191 said:
Bledsoe is our QB and all of the 'fans' calling for his benching obvioulsy don't want to have a chance at the playoffs....we need a wartime QB down the strecth and Bledsoe can only get better learning from his mistakes this first month of the season....in the end it's a TEAM effort anyway.

You mean he hasn't learned anything from being in the league for 13 years?
 

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3 INT's 3 fumbles 7 sacks. If Deadslow doesnt take a majority of the blame for yesterday, than who should? He was the Eagles most dangerous playmaker.
 

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Stautner;1081208 said:
Who says Bledsoe is supposed to be light years ahead of Brad Johnson .......?

I agree that we could stand a QB upgrade, but the conversation needs to focus on reality, and the reality is that Brad Johnson isn't a consideration. Otherwise we might as well just sit and list all the people at all positions that we would like to have.

It's Romo or nothing.

Yeah maybe not light years but I bet the lay football fan thinks so. Your right though I probably shouldn't bring up someone that we can't have, but I don't really want Brad Johnson per se, I was just using him as example really since they signed him at the end of his career and we got Bledsoe and the end of his. I think we should play Romo or draft a big time QB.
 

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StarAmongStars;1081222 said:
Yes because an old school gunslinger.....I'm not concerned with QB ratings, sacks or INT's because that stuff is going to happen when your looking to win football games.

Except that if you're looking to 'win football games', little things like sacks, picks, and QB ratings make it pretty difficult.

Let's also consider that Bledsoe has played on some pretty bad teams during his career.....so that is part of the reason that his TD/INT ratio isn't the greatest either.

In 1993 when Bill drafted Bledsoe, the Pats were pretty bad. But Tuna provided Drew with a pretty good bus..with Sam Coates, Terry, Curtis Martin, and Bill built up a strong line anchored by the old warhorse Bruce Armstrong.

He never expected Drew to do it on his own, or without a strong defense, and by 96, that team was SB bound. In subsequent years, under Pete Carroll there was a slide, but the Pats were always competitive.

In Buffalo, Kevin Gilbride's smoke and mirrors only briefly obscured the reality...

Bledsoe has never been a career interception machine like Vinnie T. His int stats are not, imo, outrageous for a 'gun-slinger'. But add in his sacks and it's not a pretty story. Add in the effect on 'winning football games ' a multiple pick/sack game has and what you've got is a QB who all too often crumbles under pressure.
 
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