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Galian Beast

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1. Zack Thomas. I don't know why people got the idea he was injured prone. Being injured, doesn't make you injury prone. Other than last year he has played in at least 13 games since 2000. And until last year at missed 13 games in 11 years.

And thinking he lost a step... The man had 52 tackles in 5 games last year. Thats a pace for 166.4 tackles. Which would have been his career best. Which he got in 2006, the year before his injury. And the year before that when he got 162 tackles... in less games.

Combining Zack Thomas with Bradie James will give us the best inside linebacker duo in the NFL. EASY. Not to mention how much this guy is going to rub off on Bradie James, Bobby Carpenter, and Kevin Burnett. If Carpenter can shadow Thomas, we might be able to really use this guy down the line.

2. Adam Jones. They say he is a top 10 cornerback. You add him to Terence Newman... who do you throw to? If he can come together, we're gonna have the best secondary in the nfl.

3. Bobby Carpenter, this might be his break out year.

4. Tank Johnson. Year in the system, year of conditioning... he might be a beast.

5. Marc Colombo. Another year of condition, another year on our offensive line. Colombo is 29 years old. And has only played in 55 games. If his knees can hold up he eventually becomes our best tackle. Hudson is going to turn him into a beast.

Im actually surprised by how young our offensive line is. Davis, Colombo, and Kosier are all 29 years old, Gurode is 30... We do need to find a new tackle to replace Flozell though.
 

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If Bobby plays atleast 20 snaps on defense (all year), I would consider that a breakout year.
 

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dangerdoom;2135865 said:
If Bobby plays atleast 20 snaps on defense (all year), I would consider that a breakout year.
You can take every penny to your name and bet that he'll see more than 20 snaps on defense this year.
 

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dangerdoom;2135865 said:
If Bobby plays atleast 20 snaps on defense (all year), I would consider that a breakout year.

Anyone care to take a guess at how many snaps Carpenter played on defense last season?
 

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Anyone care to take a guess at how many snaps Carpenter played on defense last season?
I'd like to hear the number, Adam.

My guess is that it's a bit inflated though, since we probably gave him plenty of time in the meaningless regular season finale @ Washington.
 

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Nav22;2135878 said:
I'd like to hear the number, Adam.

My guess is that it's a bit inflated though, since we probably gave him plenty of time in the meaningless regular season finale @ Washington.

No guess?
 

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AdamJT13;2135875 said:
Anyone care to take a guess at how many snaps Carpenter played on defense last season?
Please enlighten us.

I was gonna put, like 50, but I seriously don't remember Carp in there THAT often.

Blowout games don't count. Well they do, but they don't. (If that makes sense, lol)
 

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Galian Beast;2135832 said:
1. Zack Thomas. I don't know why people got the idea he was injured prone. Being injured, doesn't make you injury prone. Other than last year he has played in at least 13 games since 2000. And until last year at missed 13 games in 11 years.

And thinking he lost a step... The man had 52 tackles in 5 games last year. Thats a pace for 166.4 tackles. Which would have been his career best. Which he got in 2006, the year before his injury. And the year before that when he got 162 tackles... in less games.

Combining Zack Thomas with Bradie James will give us the best inside linebacker duo in the NFL. EASY. Not to mention how much this guy is going to rub off on Bradie James, Bobby Carpenter, and Kevin Burnett. If Carpenter can shadow Thomas, we might be able to really use this guy down the line.

2. Adam Jones. They say he is a top 10 cornerback. You add him to Terence Newman... who do you throw to? If he can come together, we're gonna have the best secondary in the nfl.

3. Bobby Carpenter, this might be his break out year.

4. Tank Johnson. Year in the system, year of conditioning... he might be a beast.

5. Marc Colombo. Another year of condition, another year on our offensive line. Colombo is 29 years old. And has only played in 55 games. If his knees can hold up he eventually becomes our best tackle. Hudson is going to turn him into a beast.

Im actually surprised by how young our offensive line is. Davis, Colombo, and Kosier are all 29 years old, Gurode is 30... We do need to find a new tackle to replace Flozell though.

I agree with all of your opinions... especially on the Zach Thomas thing though.

Many players have had multiple concussions in their career (look at Aikman) at continued to play. (of course Aikman's led to his retirement, but not on the first)

I think Zach Thomas was exiled out of Miami strictly because Big Bill took over there, and he wanted to get rid of locker room influences (no matter how positive) that weren't HIS guys.

Everybody knows that Parcels is only comfortable with players that come from his system of play, and Zach Thomas is too old to re-program (no matter what his talent level is) so he had to leave Miami.

More importantly, we wanted him, and Parcels wanted some of our guys, so somehow behind the scenes things were done to make sure that happened. It happens all the time behind closed doors in the NFL... 'unofficially' of course.

People are only going ape-crazy over it because no one wants to believe that a GM would get rid of a veteran talent like Thomas unless he is nearly finished.

It's simple though, an old vet who comes from a different school of thought plus rebuilding in Miami divided by the ability to land some 'Parcels' guys equals Zach Thomas being released and signed by the Cowboys.

Considering his agent is Drew Rosenhaus (T.O. and MB3's agent as well) I'm sure that didn't hurt our chances of getting him either. Rosenhaus was looking to get T.O. an extension (and Barber a sweet deal as well) afterall... getting Thomas to sign with the Cowboys didn't hurt his chances on getting his client the extension I'm sure.

Now if Rosenhaus could just pull off something behind the scenes to Anquan Boldin here next I might actually start to like the guy. :)
 

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there's gotta be like 20+ special teams snaps a game at the very least

opening kickoff
2nd half kickoff
punts (including kicking and coverage)
fieldgoals (including kicking and coverage)

2007/08 special teams:
62 kickoff returns (not including touchbacks)
26 punt returns (not including faircatches)
63 punts
53 extra points
31 field goal attempts

too lazy to look up how many times we kicked off the ball

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as far as defensive snaps, I would say he got about 10 a game?
my guess would be 150-200 snaps
 

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AdamJT13;2135875 said:
Anyone care to take a guess at how many snaps Carpenter played on defense last season?
I would guess about 10 plays a game. 90% of them on third downs which I seem to recall he had a roll in certain packages. So I'd guess 160 plays on defense in regular season. Maybe a few more given his relief duty in a couple of blowout games.
 

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Galian Beast;2135832 said:
We do need to find a new tackle to replace Flozell though.

Don't count out Free. Give the kid a chance.

Flo is getting up there in age. He has a few more years left in him. I'm hoping Free is the man to step up when it's time for Flo to move on.
 

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what the hell adam we guess and you dont tell us whos right? :p
 

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I'd answer, but I'm too busy sleeping on players. I guess that means I'm sleep-posting.







(FYI-that little phrase is one of the dumbest tropes and needs to be extinguished from the lexicon)
 

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1. Zack Thomas. I don't know why people got the idea he was injured prone. Being injured, doesn't make you injury prone. Other than last year he has played in at least 13 games since 2000. And until last year at missed 13 games in 11 years.

And thinking he lost a step... The man had 52 tackles in 5 games last year. Thats a pace for 166.4 tackles. Which would have been his career best. Which he got in 2006, the year before his injury. And the year before that when he got 162 tackles... in less games.

I'm not sold on the fact that he has lost a step because I haven't seen enough of him...BUT

A 35 year old MLB who just had severe concussion problems is a severe injury risk. I think it would be a pipe dream to expect him to play much more than 12-13 games this year (hopefulyl including playoffs.) You can't screw around with head injuries.

When I think of him I just think of Troy and Eric Lindros of all people. They were never injury prone, but head injuries ended their careers.
 

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How many concussions and how much neurological injury has Zack incurred? If he has no signs, symptoms or abnormal testing then I'm not sure what that answer may be.
 
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