Sturm- dont blame Garrett for run problems

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I want to be clear here because some weeks I must not say it clear enough: This is not on Jason Garrett! He has called 47 run plays from under center (I keep saying under center because that is your basic offense on 1st and 2nd down where the defense is not thinking pass. They are thinking 50/50 run/pass and this is the best test of your run offense) in the last 3 weeks. And the sum total of those 47 run plays? 126 yards. 2.6 yards per carry! Brutal.
 
I'm not a JG guy but I'm on his side about this. We have actually run the ball too much considering the benefit it brings. If you can't run the ball and you can pass it then you pass it.

Again for the last two years, this team will only go as far as the OL allows it. And it's caught up this year.
 
The OL is a huge problem, that's obvious. The fact that MB is our starter and JG has him running sweeps leaves a lot to be desired w/ JG's personel packages he is using for said run plays.


Sorry, I ain't buying it. I most certainly can blame JG for that. He isn't putting the best personel on the field for those situations.

When has MB been a threat to break it outside? He hasn't really brought that in the past 2 years.
 
This is like saying, "Don't blame Wade for his defense, his D-line is giving up seven yards a run!"

What?
 
Yes I would give Garrett a raise and extension. Coaches coach. Players play.
 
So...we shouldn't have started running it more because we're not good at it? Didn't it at least make our passing game better, all that 2.6 ypc running?
 
I put the failure of the offense on Garrett. But he can't produce magic. He has to use the tools given him by the GM. Our OL is not run blocking well enough. And Felix isn't a lot better than Barber. I do agree that Barber shouldn't run too many sweeps.
 
Why do people spend so much time focusing on things that have so little to do with winning and losing?
 
AdamJT13;3668936 said:
Why do people spend so much time focusing on things that have so little to do with winning and losing?
Because emotions drive rhetoric.
 
goshan;3668917 said:
Yes I would give Garrett a raise and extension. Coaches coach. Players play.

Then I guess Wade will be back. If he (like Garrett) has no control over what transpires on the field, why fire him?
 
Dallas;3668915 said:
The OL is a huge problem, that's obvious. The fact that MB is our starter and JG has him running sweeps leaves a lot to be desired w/ JG's personel packages he is using for said run plays.


Sorry, I ain't buying it. I most certainly can blame JG for that. He isn't putting the best personel on the field for those situations.

When has MB been a threat to break it outside? He hasn't really brought that in the past 2 years.


The coaches should bench him for this game in GB. Then he will see what is happening.

Let Choice try his skills. Samething with Witten. Sit him down. Let Bennett do the job, see if he likes it.

Tell Columbo, you sit tonight, so relax...enjoy the game. Go sit by Ware and Ratliff, relax...enjoy what you see.

No starters...let them all sit down like they want too.

Then, tell the second team, get ready to play. Kitna has more playing time with the 2nd team anyway. That might be something?

Make all the starters sit...until further notice.

:cool:
 
I agree this is a passing league and the stats support passing over running in predicting winners. But you must be able to run the ball at specific times and you must have in general a running game that is effective enough. Running the ball does help the passing game. You cannot divorce the running game from the passing game. The more successful teams in general can run the ball effectively.
 
Nobody is happy with 2.6 YPC, but that goes to the play of the o-line..how many times have we seen a RB get hit in the backfield or have to alter where he is going as soon as he gets the ball?

Marion "Bouce" Barber III, has earned that nickname from me and it's not even his fault now....he HAS to bouce around to try to make SOMETHING out of nothing....we would be lambasting him even more if he just kept running into the backs of the o-linemen every play....remember T-Hambrick?

This line is pretty much on par with what T-Ham had back then and our RB's are much better than he ever was.

An O-line has EVERYTHING to do with winning and losing....it's up to management to go out and get better o-linemen year in and year out. The o-line is a group of guys that you have to constantly be watching out for....one guy out and his replacement misses an assignment or assignment after assignment, and you have guys getting trucked in the backfield.

Give me stud O-linemen and slightly above average guys in the "star" positions, and I could get more wins than not over a team with nothing but "stars" in the skill positions and a mediocre line.....of course the defense has something to do with that, but I think you see what I am saying. Can't block, can't run/can't pass effectively enough to win enough....it's showing with our team.
 
jobberone;3668964 said:
I agree this is a passing league and the stats support passing over running in predicting winners. But you must be able to run the ball at specific times and you must have in general a running game that is effective enough. Running the ball does help the passing game. You cannot divorce the running game from the passing game. The more successful teams in general can run the ball effectively.


This made me laugh...it really did. Because it's true. :bow:


But this team can't do either one...at the moment!
:confused:
 
jobberone;3668933 said:
I put the failure of the offense on Garrett. But he can't produce magic. He has to use the tools given him by the GM. Our OL is not run blocking well enough. And Felix isn't a lot better than Barber. I do agree that Barber shouldn't run too many sweeps.


your right JG has to work with the tools, why didnt he start that in the offseason? Why did he wait until now to find out our strengths and weaknesses and not have a detailed report to Jerry last season about it or do something about or make it known to anyone that he didnt like how the offense was not changing for the better?
 
5Stars;3668978 said:
This made me laugh...it really did. Because it's true. :bow:

But this team can't do either one...at the moment!
:confused:

We pass the ball just fine, when we don't turn it over by bouncing the balls off the receivers' hands.
 
jobberone;3668964 said:
I agree this is a passing league and the stats support passing over running in predicting winners.

Not predicting winners ... actually winning games. You win by passing better than your opponent, not running better than your opponent.


But you must be able to run the ball at specific times

The only time it's really important is in short yardage. Despite the two plays Sunday, we've been very effective in short yardage this season, but it hasn't helped us win at all.


and you must have in general a running game that is effective enough. Running the ball does help the passing game. You cannot divorce the running game from the passing game.

There's very little correlation between running success and passing success or running success and winning. There's a higher correlation for running success rate than for yards per carry, but again, even though BOTH Felix and Barber rank among the top 10 running backs in success rate this season -- hard to believe, but it's true -- that hasn't made a difference between winning and losing.


The more successful teams in general can run the ball effectively.

That's not true. Some can, and some can't. Some very bad teams can, and some can't. Like I said, there's just not much of a correlation there. Look at the teams with the highest YPCs and the lowest YPCs every year, and you'll see good and bad teams in both groups.

Instead of worrying about a running back who is averaging 4.2 yards per carry for the season having a few games with a low YPC, we should focus on what is far more important -- fixing our awful pass defense.
 
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