Success or failure will have nothing to do with their skilled position players!

[GINeric]

Franchise QB helps, but as you imply, complimentary factors also apply.


Dilfer won because the Ravens D only gave up 152 total yards, had four sacks and four Int's.

Foles won because he had a well-balanced offense with good skill position players, stud o-line, and a D-line that came through when needed most.

Stafford never won in Detroit because of crap GM'ing/roster construction, poor drafts, and an owner that let it go on for too long.

Josh Allen has to play hero ball in tough games because his offensive roster is not quite good enough.

Jackson, after watching his playoff games again on NFL network, likes to make bad passes and bad decisions at the worst times in games. So many weapons and defense and fails to come through when needed most.

Kelly never won because, to be honest, his teams overall were just worse than his opponents. And one kicker blew it...but he's part of the team. Back then the NFCE was a juggernaut.

Marino only had two legit years where he had a team good enough to win the Super Bowl. The front office rarely got it right with a GM and coaching. **Cough Cough Jerry**


But on the other hand, in the recent Super Bowls won by Mahomes and Hurts, both QB's put on clinics with near mistake-free football in their wins and balanced defense--smothering in Philly's case. That's what a franchise QB is expected to do in the big moments. Their playoff records don't lie. They also had superior coaching.

Well the intelligent people definitely agree with your posts. I'm just making the point that it's a team game and always will be a team game.

For some reason, Dak and Romo are the only quarterbacks in history to be held accountable for the failures of a whole team. Other quarterbacks get excuses but not Romo and Dak. This isn't boxing. No quarterback can win anything without a team effort and great coaching.

 

[plasticman]

I don't know, I think having three 1st team All-Pros on the offensive line during the 2010s was pretty impressive and I wouldn't blame them for the lack of a championship.

The same goes for the late 2000s with Ellis, Ware, Ratliff and others along the D-line.

I wouldn't place the blame on any player or squad or part of the team in general. We are talking about 30 years.

Hundreds of players have passed through during these times.

Considering the length of time it should be clear that this franchise has issues deeper than the talent level of those on the field.

During those three decades of failure to advance in the playoffs, there is one single commonality. That is where success and failure is determined.

The Cowboys will continue on this path until the committee is disbanded, and one person has the vision, ability, and authority to build a team capable of truly contending.

 

[Rockport]

Yup, blame the fighters in the trenches. Nothing has changed.

No we blame all the haters spreading their evil throughout the lands! J/K

 

[Rockport]

Cowboys have always had star, positional players throughout their roster, but the reason why they haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years is their inability to win the trenches. 49ers, Rams, GB all dominated the trenches in our recent playoff losses:

-Cannot stop the run with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. This started against the Rams several years ago, where misdirection gave the Cowboy defense fits. Teams started to avoid the Cowboy strong pass rush and ran the football with authority against their light personnel up front.

-It is the same script, but on the other side of the football. Cannot run the football with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. Just like the offense avoiding the pass rush, defenses started to play shell coverage and dared the Cowboys to run against light boxes. They couldn't make teams pay!

-Offensive Line hasn't played well for years! Cannot run block as previously discussed, have had major struggles in pass protection, especially teams that don't blitz and always are among the most penalized units in the entire league that kill drives. We all kill their run defense, but the OL issues might be worse and this group is loaded with high draft picks. Just go back and re-watch all the Cowboy playoff losses to the 49ers, the offensive line is a big problem. It isn't coincidence that they made it a priority to fix this offseason.

Adding Pickens, Donovan EZ, Revel, Blue are terrific skilled, positional players, but the success inside the trenches on both sides of the football will determine how far this team goes this season and beyond!

You’re preaching to the choir for the most part. There are many folks here who don’t get it and blame it on 1 person though, so it’s worthy of reposting. Although, those types have agenda’s so it’s not going to matter.

 

[kskboys]

Cowboys have always had star, positional players throughout their roster, but the reason why they haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years is their inability to win the trenches. 49ers, Rams, GB all dominated the trenches in our recent playoff losses:

-Cannot stop the run with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. This started against the Rams several years ago, where misdirection gave the Cowboy defense fits. Teams started to avoid the Cowboy strong pass rush and ran the football with authority against their light personnel up front.

-It is the same script, but on the other side of the football. Cannot run the football with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. Just like the offense avoiding the pass rush, defenses started to play shell coverage and dared the Cowboys to run against light boxes. They couldn't make teams pay!

-Offensive Line hasn't played well for years! Cannot run block as previously discussed, have had major struggles in pass protection, especially teams that don't blitz and always are among the most penalized units in the entire league that kill drives. We all kill their run defense, but the OL issues might be worse and this group is loaded with high draft picks. Just go back and re-watch all the Cowboy playoff losses to the 49ers, the offensive line is a big problem. It isn't coincidence that they made it a priority to fix this offseason.

Adding Pickens, Donovan EZ, Revel, Blue are terrific skilled, positional players, but the success inside the trenches on both sides of the football will determine how far this team goes this season and beyond!

As usual. However, skill position players bring more interest and relevance.

 

[Acceptablename]

Cowboys have always had star, positional players throughout their roster, but the reason why they haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years is their inability to win the trenches. 49ers, Rams, GB all dominated the trenches in our recent playoff losses:

-Cannot stop the run with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. This started against the Rams several years ago, where misdirection gave the Cowboy defense fits. Teams started to avoid the Cowboy strong pass rush and ran the football with authority against their light personnel up front.

-It is the same script, but on the other side of the football. Cannot run the football with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. Just like the offense avoiding the pass rush, defenses started to play shell coverage and dared the Cowboys to run against light boxes. They couldn't make teams pay!

-Offensive Line hasn't played well for years! Cannot run block as previously discussed, have had major struggles in pass protection, especially teams that don't blitz and always are among the most penalized units in the entire league that kill drives. We all kill their run defense, but the OL issues might be worse and this group is loaded with high draft picks. Just go back and re-watch all the Cowboy playoff losses to the 49ers, the offensive line is a big problem. It isn't coincidence that they made it a priority to fix this offseason.

Adding Pickens, Donovan EZ, Revel, Blue are terrific skilled, positional players, but the success inside the trenches on both sides of the football will determine how far this team goes this season and beyond!

Yap I'm with on this.

 

[kskboys]

Osa actually got less then market value, but I agree he isn't a 20 million a season player.

That's contradictory. If he's not worth 20 mil, then he got more than market value.

Market value in the NFL does not mean all players at any given position get the same money.

 

[CCBoy]

You are leaving out the elephant in the room and most undervalued position by this organization since Aikman retired. A franchise QB makes all the players around him better.

As the Cowboys' starting quarterback heads into his 10th NFL season, he'll do so on the heels of a season-ending hamstring injury he suffered in Week 9 of the 2024 season. Prescott has played just two fully healthy seasons in the last five years, and the Cowboys will certainly be cautious with their approach to getting Prescott ready to go.

"I'm getting close to where I want to be, I don't want to put a percentage on it," Prescott said of his recovery in April. "I know we've got team activities coming up, imagine myself being involved in some sort if not all. Then again I just understand my age, what I've had, what I've went through, it's about being my best in the fall. So I'm not rushing anything, but I'm where I want to be."

Over a month has gone by since Prescott said he was getting close, and several videos of him throwing to his teammates on air have surfaced which are positive signs going forward. Now, the question is if there will be any limitations on what Prescott can do in practice settings and the number of reps he gets as he continues to nurse back to full health for a crucial 2025 campaign.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/five-questions-to-monitor-as-cowboys-begin-otas

Want to see direction, pay attention to directions starting now with OTA's. Start with talent directions and explosiveness potentials.

Team uses with develop along and also include the starting quarterback.

Watch and not cry all the way to Granny's House.

 

[CCBoy]

In the last 29 years, 29 other teams were able to do it during the cap era. That indicates the real problem, ownership and the front office.

That is not a single indication of cause...that is just blame and only directed as to ownership, not facts. Are all states important in the Nation? Quick, re-explain taxation and tariffs again....

 

[CCBoy]

that's why I found it a little amusing did you watch all of Dan Quinn's games with Washington last year including the one where they just got blasted in the NFCCG??!!

I saw a whole lot of the same defense somehow, they managed to get to the NFC Championship game not dominating in the trenches, again, that's why if people believe they're going to take another step forward, they may take a step back....

I mean look at all the games the couple of lucky games with Noah Browns Hail Mary there was some luck in there etc

where they got some games they shouldn't have but you look at a lot of games where they got ran over, hell including I believe our games i'm pretty sure Rico did pretty well they barely beat our practice squad...

so as much as I want us to improve this is not just solely the Dallas Cowboys that struggle with this,

I just want to make sure people understand that there are holes on every team,​

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some people do have better line of the other defensive line we're working hard on our offensive line to get it back to its glory days we got some work to do on the defensive line ,​

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but this is not the only team in the league that struggles to do the same things apparently you can't click your fingers or throw money at the position and it automatically gets resolved.​

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but the OP Needs to understand it's not going to get fixed overnight, but we need to give it a chance we'd literally double down in a draft we brought back Rogers I think we improved the linebacker cord I think it's going to be a better defense just injuries not happening like they did last year it just decimated the defense...​

No...straight up. who? Who do you leave out and why?

 

[ChuckA1]

That is not a single indication of cause...that is just blame and only directed as to ownership, not facts. Are all states important in the Nation? Quick, re-explain taxation and tariffs again....

No, they're my opinions as are your comments. The one constant in 29 years is the owner. Geez

 

[CCBoy]

You are also forgetting he has missed many games dues to injury.

Some teams have two strong quarterbacks. You implying two mediocre quarterbacks need to be paid and not one. Perhaps keep him on his feet might work better than crying about injuries. That involves real manageable items beyond popularity contests.

 

[CCBoy]

No, they're my opinions as are your comments. The one constant in 29 years is the owner. Geez

That is organizational teams all having ownership. You STILL didn't pin point failure points beyond abstract blame. No coaches; no admins; no coaches; game changes and rules; players; nothing managing but your target to quit.

Accept a Qatarri Air Force One...you go!

As a famous American stated: stupid is as stupid does! Eat your cookie now...

 

[Hadenough]

If what you are saying is true.... why did non franchise quarterbacks like Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer win Superbowls and franchise QBs like Jim Kelly and Dan Marino couldn't?

If franchise quarterbacks like Matt Stafford suppose to make the players around him better.... why didn't he win his first playoff game until like his 12th season in the NFL?

Why does a franchise quarterback like Matthew Stafford have a record of 14-74 vs winning teams?

Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are franchise quarterbacks, correct? Well why haven't they been able to lead their teams to a Superbowl like a non franchise quarterback like Colin Kaepernick did?

Apparently a franchise quarterback doesn't guarantee you winning it all according to what I've posted. I guess it's still a team game.

You make Dilfer or Kapernick the highest paid QB in the league in a salary cap driven league and they aren't winning anything.
Allen and Jackson lost to better QB that's why they haven't won SB.
Mahomes lost to Hurts who may not be as good but played better. And yes the Eagles defense made Mahomes play bad but Hurts took advantage by playing well against a pretty solid chiefs defense. And it wasn't Barkley because he only rushed for 50 yards that game. But that's all pedigree. All those guys compete tough against each other.
Dak gets into these playoff games and he doesn't compete until the game is out of hand and the other team plays prevent defense. Dak ALWAYS looks terrible in these playoff games. You go back and watch the SB where Hurts lost 35-38. He may of lost but it was close and he competed.
We never see Dak competing against these better teams. He looks like the stage is too big mentally.

 

[CCBoy]

Cowboys Must Fix Winning At Home And Here’s 3 Ways How​

The Cowboys were once kings of the castle.
Sixteen straight regular-season home wins made AT&T Stadium feel like a fortress. Then 2024 happened.
 And just like that: 2–7 at home.
 A season full of high ceilings, empty promises, and quiet exits from one of the loudest buildings in sports.

First, you pray for better luck in the health department.

Second, you acknowledge what comes with wearing the Star.
The Cowboys aren’t just a football team — they’re a gigantic target in the form of a brand.

And when you’re the biggest brand in all of sports, opponents love to sell out.

“At Dallas” is a thing … a destination.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/dallas_cowboys/51

Mix this will all the starter injuries and there is the cause.

We’ve watched more passes vanish into the sun than we can count.
This is professional football — not a rec field next to a Sonic drive-in. Let’s use the power of “America’s Team” as an advantage. Let’s use AT&T Stadium and its passionate audience to its fullest. Let’s take seriously every single snap with an understanding of the incredible rewards that are at stake with real achievement. … Achievement that can come from returning to a time when the NFL had the feeling that the Dallas Cowboys were virtually unbeatable at home.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Cowboys have always had star, positional players throughout their roster, but the reason why they haven't won a Super Bowl in 30 years is their inability to win the trenches. 49ers, Rams, GB all dominated the trenches in our recent playoff losses:

-Cannot stop the run with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. This started against the Rams several years ago, where misdirection gave the Cowboy defense fits. Teams started to avoid the Cowboy strong pass rush and ran the football with authority against their light personnel up front.

-It is the same script, but on the other side of the football. Cannot run the football with any consistency, especially against the playoff teams. Just like the offense avoiding the pass rush, defenses started to play shell coverage and dared the Cowboys to run against light boxes. They couldn't make teams pay!

-Offensive Line hasn't played well for years! Cannot run block as previously discussed, have had major struggles in pass protection, especially teams that don't blitz and always are among the most penalized units in the entire league that kill drives. We all kill their run defense, but the OL issues might be worse and this group is loaded with high draft picks. Just go back and re-watch all the Cowboy playoff losses to the 49ers, the offensive line is a big problem. It isn't coincidence that they made it a priority to fix this offseason.

Adding Pickens, Donovan EZ, Revel, Blue are terrific skilled, positional players, but the success inside the trenches on both sides of the football will determine how far this team goes this season and beyond!

I think there will be some improvements this year. Im actually fairly confident Smith will be an average caliber starting DT and a quality run stopper. Im less concerned with the DL than I am with the LB's in run defense. The interior of the OL should be strong. Probably would have been strong without Booker. I think Beebe makes a big jump this year and is a Cam Jurgens level OC. Booker could make it dominant. My big concern with the OL is the OT's in pass pro

 

[Hadenough]

If what you are saying is true.... why did non franchise quarterbacks like Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer win Superbowls and franchise QBs like Jim Kelly and Dan Marino couldn't?

If franchise quarterbacks like Matt Stafford suppose to make the players around him better.... why didn't he win his first playoff game until like his 12th season in the NFL?

Why does a franchise quarterback like Matthew Stafford have a record of 14-74 vs winning teams?

Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are franchise quarterbacks, correct? Well why haven't they been able to lead their teams to a Superbowl like a non franchise quarterback like Colin Kaepernick did?

Apparently a franchise quarterback doesn't guarantee you winning it all according to what I've posted. I guess it's still a team game.

It takes a team is correct but the most important position on that team is QB. The reason Josh Allen hasn't won a SB isnt that he didn't play great. It's that the other QB had the ball last. Lamar Jackson hasn't won't a SB because he failed to play well enough on the biggest stage. Foles won because he played at the pinnacle of his ability on the biggest stage. Hurts did the same. Dak has not shown much on the biggest stage and consistency is awful.

Cowboys Must Fix Winning At Home And Here’s 3 Ways How​

The Cowboys were once kings of the castle.
Sixteen straight regular-season home wins made AT&T Stadium feel like a fortress. Then 2024 happened.
 And just like that: 2–7 at home.
 A season full of high ceilings, empty promises, and quiet exits from one of the loudest buildings in sports.

First, you pray for better luck in the health department.

Second, you acknowledge what comes with wearing the Star.
The Cowboys aren’t just a football team — they’re a gigantic target in the form of a brand.

And when you’re the biggest brand in all of sports, opponents love to sell out.

“At Dallas” is a thing … a destination.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/dallas_cowboys/51

Mix this will all the starter injuries and there is the cause.

We’ve watched more passes vanish into the sun than we can count.
This is professional football — not a rec field next to a Sonic drive-in. Let’s use the power of “America’s Team” as an advantage. Let’s use AT&T Stadium and its passionate audience to its fullest. Let’s take seriously every single snap with an understanding of the incredible rewards that are at stake with real achievement. … Achievement that can come from returning to a time when the NFL had the feeling that the Dallas Cowboys were virtually unbeatable at home.

Dallas rarely had home field advantage since AT& T stadium was built.
The people that go to Dallas games are 80% there for the social hour and their bunch of hoity toitys.

 

[GINeric]

It takes a team is correct but the most important position on that team is QB. The reason Josh Allen hasn't won a SB isnt that he didn't play great. It's that the other QB had the ball last. Lamar Jackson hasn't won't a SB because he failed to play well enough on the biggest stage. Foles won because he played at the pinnacle of his ability on the

It takes a team is correct but the most important position on that team is QB. The reason Josh Allen hasn't won a SB isnt that he didn't play great. It's that the other QB had the ball last. Lamar Jackson hasn't won't a SB because he failed to play well enough on the biggest stage. Foles won because he played at the pinnacle of his ability on the biggest stage. Hurts did the same. Dak has not shown much on the biggest stage and consistency is awful.

Dallas rarely had home field advantage since AT& T stadium was built.
The people that go to Dallas games are 80% there for the social hour and their bunch of hoity toitys.

Well unfortunately, I'm playing by the rules previously set for quarterbacks. Yes, intelligent people understand that it's a team game. However, when they set a standard for one quarterback, I'm going to make sure we hold ALL quarterbacks to that same standard.

Its amazing how a 4th round drafted quarterback has higher expectations than 1st round drafted quarterbacks. I've never seen that before until low round drafted Romo and Dak came to Dallas. I have no problem with your entire post by the way.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Is the QB position a SKILLED position

 

[blueblood70]

Understand couldn't fix everything in just 1 offseason, but their biggest personnel upgrades have been in the skilled, positional players. Outside of Booker, really haven't improved the trenches. They are hoping with better coaching, more development will take place.

disgree

Your view your perspective that they didn't fix it would be a little premature that's all I'm going to say I mean you literally don't know what has or has not been fixed which by the way when you improve a position like Booker where Hoffman was supposed to start and now Hoffman is your backup guard and center you've improved it a lot more than you think besides the fact that they brought over a lot of depth and competition on the offensive and defensive lines and at running back and that linebacker...

and....

I'm going to tell you you're premature again...

You have zero proof it hasn't been improved you're too in love with names on the back of jerseys some of y'all really fall in love with what you think is improvement I bet Washington's over there thinking they improved with Debo Samuels and Michael Gallup and they traded out one defensive tackle for almost the exact same guy at defensive tackle you call that an improvement no I don't just some names just some shuffling the NFL and sports they do that sometimes you get enamored with the moves made but if you look at the players lost and the movement they're just moving around pieces they're not technically improved they're all filling holes

So I will say again until we watch them play on the field until we see the actual roster the complete roster heading into game one and watch some games you have zero proof except your opinion that nothing's been improved...

I say they have it's easy that we both can say just by our own opinion that something's not been improved or has been approved before 1 snap but I've seen a lot of names added over there three defensive tackles the two draftees and Rogers how do you know they're not going to come out of camp better than they were last year?

I'd say year two, Cooper BB much going to be improved and he was already good I say year two jumps for Guyton and steele being with a different offensive line coach and an offensive coordinator who was definitely an offensive line coach they are going to improve that side of the fall by default.. IMHO

Maybe you don't have an understanding that sometimes a scheme switch different voices different vision they hit the reboot on the coaching staff alone says they've made improvements even if you don't see it yet I see it will it come to fruition we don't know how about we watch some football games instead of act like everybody knows everything around here you all know nothing we do not know anything until we see the product on the field...


now back to reality called life..