Superman vs Fantastic 4: Which are you most anxious to see?

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How Superman can BEAT the Fantastic Four​

 

[gtb1943]

neither

I have no expectations either one will be all that

 

[Hardline]

Neither.
I don't give Hollywood my money.

 

[cowboyec]

superman.
tho i'm not expecting it to come close to man of steel...the best superman movie ever.

 

[Tabascocat]

Neither, enough of these superhero movies. The creativity is gone in Hollywood

I do look forward to another Jurassic Park movie though

 

[Runwildboys]

neither

I have no expectations either one will be all that

Same

 

[DallasEast]

Answer: See avatar.

That said, I am anxious about how well FF is adapted this time around. The 2005 and 2007 versions were average in my opinion. Someone should be shot for the 2015 nonsense.

*IF* Marvel/Disney presents something well thought out, I see the movie easily eclipsing Thunderbolts' worldwide box office at $380 million. That would slot it at 32nd out of the 36 Marvel Cinematic Universe movies released to date (not including FF), just below Eternals.

I *think* the overall audience may label it as a good or better movie if it is popular enough to match or exceed the original Iron Man at the box office by pulling in $584 million or more.

On the other hand, it may land as a dud if general audiences do not relate to it like The Marvels. That film remains 36th out of 36 MCU productions thus far at $199 million. I will still be okay with it AS LONG AS it is not the dog FF 2015 turned out to be. Pathetic.

 

[Creeper]

As a kid FF was one of my favorite comics. I wasn't really a Superman comic book fan. I did watch the original Superman TV show though. To be honest, I am Super heroed out at this point. I'd rather watch the comical Guardians of the Galaxy type movies.

 

[KalEl]

I'm obviously a huge Superman fan. But it looks like crap. So does the new F4.

 

[Stash]

I’m eager to see both and I truly hope that both films do very well.

James Gunn’s New DC Universe needs Superman to be a huge hit to start off on the right foot. The previous DCEU started off mediocre and got worse from there. It finished with finished films being outright shelved.

As for Marvel, they need a huge hit to right the ship and restore moviegoers faith. Thunderbolts was an excellent film, but couldn’t get audiences to turn out to see it. A real shame. Fantastic Four needs to succeed and show that Marvel is back on the right track. We won’t see another MCU film for over a year.

I plan on seeing both.

 

[DemonBlood]

Superman because it actually looks like a Superman movie unlike that Snyder slop. I never really liked FF comics even though I love their villains like Doom and Galactus. I'm tired of seeing Pedro in everything too. Hope both are good movies and big successes though.

 

[CyberB0b]

Both are looking like they’ll be garbage.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

neither

I have no expectations either one will be all that

^^^THIS^^^

 

[VaqueroTD]

If I had to pick, Superman. I like the DC heroes over Marvel. They feel more like mythology titans. Mythological tales for today's America I guess. But Marvel definitely has a track record of making better films. Hopefully Gunn can make it work but I'm not sure his style works for a Superman epic. I love his other films and TV, but he stuck with his vibe on those. Would have put Gunn over Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos and some of the other stuff related to it and probably gone another direction for the Superman/Batman guy. But definitely not the Zack Snyder direction. I have superhero fatigue so I'm looking forward to Gen V Season 2 and Peacemaker Season 2 (Not sure how involved Gunn was with this season?) more than anything. Both of those are great shows that made fun of the superhero mythos and society in general.

 

[SlammedZero]

Neither, enough of these superhero movies. The creativity is gone in Hollywood

Agreed. The superhero fatigue is real.





Unless it's Batman.......because I'm a Batman fan......so I’m totally biased.

 

[quickccc]

If I had to pick, Superman. I like the DC heroes over Marvel. They feel more like mythology titans. Mythological tales for today's America I guess. But Marvel definitely has a track record of making better films. Hopefully Gunn can make it work but I'm not sure his style works for a Superman epic. I love his other films and TV, but he stuck with his vibe on those. Would have put Gunn over Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos and some of the other stuff related to it and probably gone another direction for the Superman/Batman guy. But definitely not the Zack Snyder direction. I have superhero fatigue so I'm looking forward to Gen V Season 2 and Peacemaker Season 2 (Not sure how involved Gunn was with this season?) more than anything. Both of those are great shows that made fun of the superhero mythos and society in general.

I would like to see DC Universe expand beyond just the usual Superman and Batman genres. That apparently is gonna be up to James Gunn.

That is what deeply separates DC vs Marvel,imo. DC is limited, ..while Marvel is vast
.It's like a swimming pool compared to the size of a lake.

.DC two biggesst guns are just Superman & Batman. Can they not operate big and greatly expand outside thosw two characters ?

- Wonder Woman was a one hit wonder , followed by a hideously horrible sequel in Wonder Woman '84.
- Aquaman met a quick death.
- Green Lantern was such cornball simply could not be taken serious
- Flash was dismcal ..
- i just didn't like the CGI villain of StephenWolffe in Justice League - of all the other possible villains that could have better choices vs JL
- Ironically the one DC figure and movie i really liked BLACK ADAM .. despite making 85 million opening weekend, it was toasted by the critics
and shelved by the new Gunn direction ..thus cancelling any chances of a future Superman vs Black Adam showdown. .

 

[nobody]

Agreed. The superhero fatigue is real.





Unless it's Batman.......because I'm a Batman fan......so I’m totally biased.

I (and some others) predicted this many years ago. We were called crazy because others thought as long as the stories were fresh and well-written, it wouldn't matter. They forgot that regular movie-goers aren't as forgiving as (us) nerds about that stuff.

I'm still going to see Superman in the theater. I'll give James Gunn a shot. But I'm not expecting anything amazing. I won't be seeing FF in the theater. Too many red flags for me during production/development.

I say this as a Marvel over DC Fan.

But you and @Tabascocat are right, the fatigue is real.

 

[DallasEast]

I would like to see DC Universe expand beyond just the usual Superman and Batman genres. That apparently is gonna be up to James Gunn.

That is what deeply separates DC vs Marvel,imo. DC is limited, ..while Marvel is vast
.It's like a swimming pool compared to the size of a lake.

.DC two biggesst guns are just Superman & Batman. Can they not operate big and greatly expand outside thosw two characters ?

- Wonder Woman was a one hit wonder , followed by a hideously horrible sequel in Wonder Woman '84.
- Aquaman met a quick death.
- Green Lantern was such cornball simply could not be taken serious
- Flash was dismcal ..
- i just didn't like the CGI villain of StephenWolffe in Justice League - of all the other possible villains that could have better choices vs JL
- Ironically the one DC figure and movie i really liked BLACK ADAM .. despite making 85 million opening weekend, it was toasted by the critics
and shelved by the new Gunn direction ..thus cancelling any chances of a future Superman vs Black Adam showdown. .

It is completely true DC/Warner Bros have released limited material for the previous DCEU but that is explainable. They invested in Zack Snyder, who delivered superhero projects but there was not any cohesive, interconnecting blueprint between them. Everything was loosely thrown together stuff.

On the other hand, Kevin Ferge constructed an outline of the first three phases of the MCU before he produced Iron Man in 2008. Despite any criticism, all characters and their films (and television series) were pre-schemed to be interconnected with one another.

Primarily, the DCEU was conceived upon recapturing box office success of decades of 'safe' previous Superman and Batman movies. It was an intentionally shortsighted endeavor, dependent on cashing in on prior results from the late 1970's forward.

The MCU was made akin to constructing a building. Plans were drawn out. A solid foundation (Iron Man) was laid. The phases are floors with each set of movies and television series representing rooms, with rooms reflecting comic book characters. It is an all-inclusive, calculated, self-perpetuating project.

In short, the MCU was created on the premise it would introduce newer and newer characters. The DCEU never seriously did the same beyond what Snyder thought would work with audiences.

I will give Snyder his props though concerning Steppenwolf. Like you, I disliked how the CGI villain was used in 2017's Justice League. That was some weak, dumb <expletive> Joss Whedon re-edited after Warner Bros ran off Snyder.

Luckily, the studio came to its senses and allowed Snyder to re-RE-edit Whedon's crap with what he had first envisioned. In my opinion, 2021's Justice League was Snyder's best work in the DCEU, which revolved around a truly, CGI-menacing Apokolips villain that took full advantage of Ciaran Hinds' voicework.

All hope (at least for old comic book fans like myself) for the new DCU now rests with James Gunn. Regardless of his future success or failure, Gunn has a track record of innovative, fresh perspective for the genre with his Guardians of the Galaxy films. Even his first foray into DC with the animated Creature Commandos series on HBO reinforces his adaptation insight.

Now, we wait-and-see if Gunn has actually transferred his MCU magic to the DCU. One thing is already known. Gunn has dived into this new creative pool with a directive that he will not be limited to solely producing Superman and Batman material for consumers. It will be much more like the MCU from day one.

So... less than 48 hours and counting to find out...

 

[KalEl]

It is completely true DC/Warner Bros have released limited material for the previous DCEU but that is explainable. They invested in Zack Snyder, who delivered superhero projects but there was not any cohesive, interconnecting blueprint between them. Everything was loosely thrown together stuff.

On the other hand, Kevin Ferge constructed an outline of the first three phases of the MCU before he produced Iron Man in 2008. Despite any criticism, all characters and their films (and television series) were pre-schemed to be interconnected with one another.

Primarily, the DCEU was conceived upon recapturing box office success of decades of 'safe' previous Superman and Batman movies. It was an intentionally shortsighted endeavor, dependent on cashing in on prior results from the late 1970's forward.

The MCU was made akin to constructing a building. Plans were drawn out. A solid foundation (Iron Man) was laid. The phases are floors with each set of movies and television series representing rooms, with rooms reflecting comic book characters. It is an all-inclusive, calculated, self-perpetuating project.

In short, the MCU was created on the premise it would introduce newer and newer characters. The DCEU never seriously did the same beyond what Snyder thought would work with audiences.

I will give Snyder his props though concerning Steppenwolf. Like you, I disliked how the CGI villain was used in 2017's Justice League. That was some weak, dumb <expletive> Joss Whedon re-edited after Warner Bros ran off Snyder.

Luckily, the studio came to its senses and allowed Snyder to re-RE-edit Whedon's crap with what he had first envisioned. In my opinion, 2021's Justice League was Snyder's best work in the DCEU, which revolved around a truly, CGI-menacing Apokolips villain that took full advantage of Ciaran Hinds' voicework.

All hope (at least for old comic book fans like myself) for the new DCU now rests with James Gunn. Regardless of his future success or failure, Gunn has a track record of innovative, fresh perspective for the genre with his Guardians of the Galaxy films. Even his first foray into DC with the animated Creature Commandos series on HBO reinforces his adaptation insight.

Now, we wait-and-see if Gunn has actually transferred his MCU magic to the DCU. One thing is already known. Gunn has dived into this new creative pool with a directive that he will not be limited to solely producing Superman and Batman material for consumers. It will be much more like the MCU from day one.

So... less than 48 hours and counting to find out...

They didn't run off Snyder. His child committed suicide, so he took a leave of absence. If he were run off they wouldn't have allowed him to finish his version of JL and release it. His version was really good IMO. it really expanded that universe and brought in key comic book stories and characters.

 

[DallasEast]

They didn't run off Snyder. His child committed suicide, so he took a leave of absence. If he were run off they wouldn't have allowed him to finish his version of JL and release it. His version was really good IMO. it really expanded that universe and brought in key comic book stories and characters.

I stand corrected. Thanks.