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With some on the board being interested in a WR prospect in this years supp draft. Can anyone state what time this takes place or when the results are announced?
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This off the NFL site.... Supplmental Draft information. The draft is today....
Supplemental thoughts
By Adam Schefter
Special to NFL.com
(July 13, 2005) -- The supplemental draft is the one in which Mel Kiper Jr. can let his hair down. There are no cameras, no spotlight, no hype like the type that accompanies the April NFL draft. But the proceedings of the supplemental draft, a mystery to most, are intriguing nonetheless. A weighted lottery will be held at about noon ET Thursday to determine each team's supplemental draft position. Lottery chances for teams with six or fewer wins are placed together and drawn to determine the top of the supplemental draft order. Lottery chances for the remaining non-playoff teams will then be placed together and drawn to determine their order. And lottery chances for playoff teams next will be placed together and drawn to determine the remainder of the supplemental draft order. The order of round one will be repeated in rounds two through seven.
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More interesting is the way the selection process is done. Each team will have 10 minutes -- running concurrently -- to email the league office of its wishes to select a player in round one. After 10 minutes, the selections are compiled. If a player is selected by more than one club, he is awarded to the club that holds priority in the supplemental draft order. All seven rounds of the supplemental draft are conducted in this fashion by email. If a team exercises a pick on a player, then it loses the corresponding pick from the same round in the April 2006 draft. So each pick must carefully be weighed. And teams don't have to worry about squeezing another player under the salary cap, into its 2005 rookie pool. The club that selects a player will be given an extra allocation of rookie pool money equal to the selection slot in the draft.
And there is some supplemental history. Once, Bernie Kosar was the Browns first-round pick in the 1985 supplemental draft. Cris Carter was the Eagles fourth-round pick in the 1987 supplemental draft, the same draft that sent Brian Bosworth to Seattle in the first round. It's unlikely we'll have any players in Thursday's supplemental draft that have that type of impact, but there are at least two prospects of the nine in the draft that are worth serious consideration: USC defensive tackle Manuel Wright and Clemson wide receiver Roscoe Crosby.
THE WRIGHT STUFF?
The most intriguing player in this draft is USC defensive tackle Manuel Wright, a player blessed with more talent than desire. When Wright worked out at USC last week, at least 28 NFL teams had a scout, or multiple ones, in attendance. What they saw was this: Wright measured 6-foot-6, 329 pounds, and ran the 40-yard dash in 4.97 seconds -- an impressive time for a player so large. He bench pressed 225 pounds 16 times -- an unimpressive number for a player so large. The prevailing thought now -- and you never can tell exactly with all the misinformation out there -- is that Wright will be a third-round pick.
Some teams believe that Wright will be a fourth-round pick. But there also is some speculation that the Eagles could pick him in the second round, believing they will not get a shot at him in the third round.
What is working in his favor is that so many teams need defensive tackles. Aside from his personal workout, Wright visited the Cincinnati Bengals, Jacksonville Jaguars, Philadelphia Eagles and Miami Dolphins.
Players available for Supplemental Draft
Player, Pos., College
Vinny Cirrincione, K, None
Roscoe Crosby, WR, Clemson
Charles Ealy, DB, UNLV
Hiram Eugene, DB, La. Tech
Ivory McCann, RB, Texas Tech
Vashon Pearson, RB, Miss.
Agim Shabaj, WR, Mich. St.
Jerome Walker, DE, Toledo
Manuel Wright, DT, USC
The Dolphins were so intrigued by Wright that they sent five scouts, including general manager Randy Mueller, to the USC defensive tackle's workout last Friday. The Bengals sent two scouts to watch him. The New York Giants and New Orleans Saints also were in attendance. There also has been speculation that the Green Bay Packers, facing a possible holdout from defensive tackle Grady Jackson, could be interested in Wright. None of the teams were overly impressed with Wright's workout.
But the bottom line is, here is a massive specimen that played behind Mike Patterson, Philadelphia's first-round pick, and Shaun Cody, Detroit's second-round pick. And during that time last season, Wright rang up six tackles for a loss, two sacks, two deflected passes and two fumble recoveries, including one against Colorado State that he returned 20 yards for a touchdown. If his work ethic matched his talents, Wright would be a first-rounder.
THE CROSBY SHOW
At one time, Roscoe Crosby was considered one of the top receiving prospects in the nation. During his freshman year at Clemson, Crosby set school records for receptions and receiving yards by a freshman.
But he also was immensely talented in baseball, so much so that the Kansas City Royals selected Crosby in the second round of the 2001 amateur draft and paid him a $1.75 million bonus. Since then, the 6-foot-2, 218-pound Crosby has been beset by injuries and tragedy.
Shortly after signing with the Royals, Crosby was involved in a car accident in which three of his friends were killed and two more suffered serious injuries. Crosby himself suffered an arm injury that contributed to the end of his baseball career. His last full football season was in 2001, and so there are questions about how soon Crosby can contribute, being that he hasn't played football on a full-time basis in four seasons.
When he ran during his private workout in South Carolina last week that 17 NFL teams attended -- during which former NFL quarterback Shaun King threw to him -- Crosby was clocked in the 40-yard dash in the high 4.4's. Now most teams view him as a late-round pick, possibly a seventh rounder, if he's even drafted at all. But teams are aware of his athleticism and there are enough teams that need some receiving help, even if it won't come this season. Teams that have studied Crosby include Atlanta, Carolina, Dallas, Miami, New Orleans and Kansas City.
Maybe Crosby winds up being drafted by a different Kansas City team.
ANOTHER WORKOUT OF A DIFFERENT SORT
When linebacker Peter Boulware went on a free-agent tour earlier this offseason, every team was scared off by the extent of his injuries.
None thought he was close to being ready to play, and none thought he was worth the price he was asking. But now Boulware believes he's healthier, and he's determined to prove it. He will work out Thursday in Tallahassee, Fla, for any team that's interested and at least three still are -- Cleveland, Seattle and Houston. Before any team offers Boulware anywhere close to the money he wants, he's going to have to prove he's a lot healthier.
NO NO. 1s
To date, no first-round draft choice has reached agreement on a new deal. And while we should start hearing about some contracts for some first-rounders next week, deals for the top choices are expected to trickle in this summer. The biggest reason is that, due to the current collective bargaining agreement, and the lack of a new one, this year's rookie contracts cannot be any longer than five years. Now, instead of cramming the signing bonus into the six-year contracts that first-round picks signed last year, and the seven-year contracts they signed the year before, now they must be squeezed into five years. This complicates negotiations. Now players, agents and teams are expecting deals that have lower signing bonuses and larger option bonus payments, to try to give the players the money they want and the teams the salary-cap relief they crave. But many around the league are bracing for plenty of holdouts from first-round picks.
THE COST OF BEING PAC-MAN
The arrest of Tennessee's first-round pick Adam "Pacman" Jones on the charges of simple assault and vandalism will be reflected in the contract the cornerback signs in the coming weeks. In addition to Jones facing fines or suspension from the NFL, the Titans will include language in the cornerback's contract so that they have a means to recover bonus money should other legal situations surface with him. But these days, such language is fairly typical in any contract. It's standard practice. Just as Kellen Winslow Jr. had language that banned him from "hazardous activies" that included "motorcycling", Jones' contract will have language pertaining to the same types of activities as well as legal ones, covering all eventualities. Jones' agent, Michael Huyghue, already has kicked off negotiations with the Titans, but there are no firm offers yet. Still, both sides are expecting Jones' deal to be wrapped up by, or shortly after, the Titans July 29 training camp opens.
Supplemental thoughts
By Adam Schefter
Special to NFL.com
(July 13, 2005) -- The supplemental draft is the one in which Mel Kiper Jr. can let his hair down. There are no cameras, no spotlight, no hype like the type that accompanies the April NFL draft. But the proceedings of the supplemental draft, a mystery to most, are intriguing nonetheless. A weighted lottery will be held at about noon ET Thursday to determine each team's supplemental draft position. Lottery chances for teams with six or fewer wins are placed together and drawn to determine the top of the supplemental draft order. Lottery chances for the remaining non-playoff teams will then be placed together and drawn to determine their order. And lottery chances for playoff teams next will be placed together and drawn to determine the remainder of the supplemental draft order. The order of round one will be repeated in rounds two through seven.
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More interesting is the way the selection process is done. Each team will have 10 minutes -- running concurrently -- to email the league office of its wishes to select a player in round one. After 10 minutes, the selections are compiled. If a player is selected by more than one club, he is awarded to the club that holds priority in the supplemental draft order. All seven rounds of the supplemental draft are conducted in this fashion by email. If a team exercises a pick on a player, then it loses the corresponding pick from the same round in the April 2006 draft. So each pick must carefully be weighed. And teams don't have to worry about squeezing another player under the salary cap, into its 2005 rookie pool. The club that selects a player will be given an extra allocation of rookie pool money equal to the selection slot in the draft.
And there is some supplemental history. Once, Bernie Kosar was the Browns first-round pick in the 1985 supplemental draft. Cris Carter was the Eagles fourth-round pick in the 1987 supplemental draft, the same draft that sent Brian Bosworth to Seattle in the first round. It's unlikely we'll have any players in Thursday's supplemental draft that have that type of impact, but there are at least two prospects of the nine in the draft that are worth serious consideration: USC defensive tackle Manuel Wright and Clemson wide receiver Roscoe Crosby.
THE WRIGHT STUFF?
The most intriguing player in this draft is USC defensive tackle Manuel Wright, a player blessed with more talent than desire. When Wright worked out at USC last week, at least 28 NFL teams had a scout, or multiple ones, in attendance. What they saw was this: Wright measured 6-foot-6, 329 pounds, and ran the 40-yard dash in 4.97 seconds -- an impressive time for a player so large. He bench pressed 225 pounds 16 times -- an unimpressive number for a player so large. The prevailing thought now -- and you never can tell exactly with all the misinformation out there -- is that Wright will be a third-round pick.
Some teams believe that Wright will be a fourth-round pick. But there also is some speculation that the Eagles could pick him in the second round, believing they will not get a shot at him in the third round.
What is working in his favor is that so many teams need defensive tackles. Aside from his personal workout, Wright visited the Cincinnati Bengals, Jacksonville Jaguars, Philadelphia Eagles and Miami Dolphins.
Players available for Supplemental Draft
Player, Pos., College
Vinny Cirrincione, K, None
Roscoe Crosby, WR, Clemson
Charles Ealy, DB, UNLV
Hiram Eugene, DB, La. Tech
Ivory McCann, RB, Texas Tech
Vashon Pearson, RB, Miss.
Agim Shabaj, WR, Mich. St.
Jerome Walker, DE, Toledo
Manuel Wright, DT, USC
The Dolphins were so intrigued by Wright that they sent five scouts, including general manager Randy Mueller, to the USC defensive tackle's workout last Friday. The Bengals sent two scouts to watch him. The New York Giants and New Orleans Saints also were in attendance. There also has been speculation that the Green Bay Packers, facing a possible holdout from defensive tackle Grady Jackson, could be interested in Wright. None of the teams were overly impressed with Wright's workout.
But the bottom line is, here is a massive specimen that played behind Mike Patterson, Philadelphia's first-round pick, and Shaun Cody, Detroit's second-round pick. And during that time last season, Wright rang up six tackles for a loss, two sacks, two deflected passes and two fumble recoveries, including one against Colorado State that he returned 20 yards for a touchdown. If his work ethic matched his talents, Wright would be a first-rounder.
THE CROSBY SHOW
At one time, Roscoe Crosby was considered one of the top receiving prospects in the nation. During his freshman year at Clemson, Crosby set school records for receptions and receiving yards by a freshman.
But he also was immensely talented in baseball, so much so that the Kansas City Royals selected Crosby in the second round of the 2001 amateur draft and paid him a $1.75 million bonus. Since then, the 6-foot-2, 218-pound Crosby has been beset by injuries and tragedy.
Shortly after signing with the Royals, Crosby was involved in a car accident in which three of his friends were killed and two more suffered serious injuries. Crosby himself suffered an arm injury that contributed to the end of his baseball career. His last full football season was in 2001, and so there are questions about how soon Crosby can contribute, being that he hasn't played football on a full-time basis in four seasons.
When he ran during his private workout in South Carolina last week that 17 NFL teams attended -- during which former NFL quarterback Shaun King threw to him -- Crosby was clocked in the 40-yard dash in the high 4.4's. Now most teams view him as a late-round pick, possibly a seventh rounder, if he's even drafted at all. But teams are aware of his athleticism and there are enough teams that need some receiving help, even if it won't come this season. Teams that have studied Crosby include Atlanta, Carolina, Dallas, Miami, New Orleans and Kansas City.
Maybe Crosby winds up being drafted by a different Kansas City team.
ANOTHER WORKOUT OF A DIFFERENT SORT
When linebacker Peter Boulware went on a free-agent tour earlier this offseason, every team was scared off by the extent of his injuries.
None thought he was close to being ready to play, and none thought he was worth the price he was asking. But now Boulware believes he's healthier, and he's determined to prove it. He will work out Thursday in Tallahassee, Fla, for any team that's interested and at least three still are -- Cleveland, Seattle and Houston. Before any team offers Boulware anywhere close to the money he wants, he's going to have to prove he's a lot healthier.
NO NO. 1s
To date, no first-round draft choice has reached agreement on a new deal. And while we should start hearing about some contracts for some first-rounders next week, deals for the top choices are expected to trickle in this summer. The biggest reason is that, due to the current collective bargaining agreement, and the lack of a new one, this year's rookie contracts cannot be any longer than five years. Now, instead of cramming the signing bonus into the six-year contracts that first-round picks signed last year, and the seven-year contracts they signed the year before, now they must be squeezed into five years. This complicates negotiations. Now players, agents and teams are expecting deals that have lower signing bonuses and larger option bonus payments, to try to give the players the money they want and the teams the salary-cap relief they crave. But many around the league are bracing for plenty of holdouts from first-round picks.
THE COST OF BEING PAC-MAN
The arrest of Tennessee's first-round pick Adam "Pacman" Jones on the charges of simple assault and vandalism will be reflected in the contract the cornerback signs in the coming weeks. In addition to Jones facing fines or suspension from the NFL, the Titans will include language in the cornerback's contract so that they have a means to recover bonus money should other legal situations surface with him. But these days, such language is fairly typical in any contract. It's standard practice. Just as Kellen Winslow Jr. had language that banned him from "hazardous activies" that included "motorcycling", Jones' contract will have language pertaining to the same types of activities as well as legal ones, covering all eventualities. Jones' agent, Michael Huyghue, already has kicked off negotiations with the Titans, but there are no firm offers yet. Still, both sides are expecting Jones' deal to be wrapped up by, or shortly after, the Titans July 29 training camp opens.
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Thanks for posting that. I wonder how quickly the NFL will announce the results
