Take all these comps get back a 4

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I remember last year Jerry said he couldn't move up cause teams wanted a rd higher future pick and weren't interested in moving back.
FWIW last year the SF traded two 5ths (173 & 176) for NYJs 4th (pick 129). I think thats the only true trade back like that though and the others were mostly to get future 3rd rounds. Both Miami and Detroit gave up future 3rd round picks for 4th rounders (126 & 120)
 

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FWIW last year the SF traded two 5ths (173 & 176) for NYJs 4th (pick 129). I think thats the only true trade back like that though and the others were mostly to get future 3rd rounds. Both Miami and Detroit gave up future 3rd round picks for 4th rounders (126 & 120)
I think at that point in the draft, teams don't want the picks for this yr.
 

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Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how the board falls and what we do in FA.
Just looked what happened the last two years, waited and got nothing. This new staff is making it a priority to fix their run game, won't wait that long to address the need, even if Dowdle returns.
 

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If we are picking an RB in the 4th round we will be picking from scraps.I think all the top RBs are going to be picked earlier and more often than in previous drafts.
If Jeanty is there at 12 he's the pick. If Jeanty is off the board at 12 I am hoping Hampton is there in the 2nd round.

Irving was a stud this year and the UDFA for the 49ers was like top 5 in rushing when he was given the opportunity the be the #1.

Certainly not scraps IMO.
 

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Cannot wait that long to address the RB position, has to be addressed by rd 3. Then you see players who don't really move the needle at the position.
I think this draft is different. There will be starting caliber players in the 4th at RB imo. Brashard Smith, is my target.
 

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what do the 4 QBs in the championship game have in common?

Matter of fact, 6 or even all 8 depending on how you view Stafford and Goth (both of which were mobile coming out of college) have what in common?

I realize mobility is nice . It’s changed Dak dramatically. McCord is at least a project for 2026 . Right now I don’t think either back ups on the roster can carry this load long term or in place of Dak
 

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You have 4 comp picks coming up in 2025 for losing Fowler Armstrong Biadasz & Pollard . Three 5’s & a 6 . Bundle a few together to get back into round 4 and salvage the Mingo trade by grabbing a developmental QB to challenge in 2026 Kyle McCord Syracuse . Or do our board experts believe he will be gone by then ?

The scouting report touts quick trigger release accurate he’s not Mobile but play action suits his game . He sounds like a perfect student for Schott & Klayton Adams the OC . Have him learn in 25 as QB3 with an eye on training camp 2026 QB2 give Dak pause when he’s either ineffective or hurt, man needs a challenge . Let either Lance or Rush leave now, assume Lance.
Wow great great thought!!
 

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I’m high on the McCord kid but haven’t researched where all the draft pundits have him going. If it’s not him, I hope the clowns in the draft FINALLY start to put some stock in the most important position on the field. Just give the fans a glimmer of hope. For me, replacing Dak falls right after hiring a competent GM and we all know that’s never happening.

Dak needs certain accountability , benching when he’s ineffective or competitive upside replacement when he’s hurt . A draft pick no later then 4 could provide this .
 

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You have 4 comp picks coming up in 2025 for losing Fowler Armstrong Biadasz & Pollard . Three 5’s & a 6 . Bundle a few together to get back into round 4
As of right now the Cowboys are picking -

5th round:
150 - 31
170 - 23
172 - 23
174 - 22

6th round:
190 - 15
211 - 7

Some examples of the 4 round values:
1st pick 102 - 102
112 - 70
122 - 50
132 - 40

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You have 4 comp picks coming up in 2025 for losing Fowler Armstrong Biadasz & Pollard . Three 5’s & a 6 . Bundle a few together to get back into round 4 and salvage the Mingo trade by grabbing a developmental QB to challenge in 2026 Kyle McCord Syracuse . Or do our board experts believe he will be gone by then ?

The scouting report touts quick trigger release accurate he’s not Mobile but play action suits his game . He sounds like a perfect student for Schott & Klayton Adams the OC . Have him learn in 25 as QB3 with an eye on training camp 2026 QB2 give Dak pause when he’s either ineffective or hurt, man needs a challenge . Let either Lance or Rush leave now, assume Lance.
I'm more for using the picks. The draft is a crap shoot, and the hit percentage in the fourth round on is under 50 percent. The more rolls of the dice you have, the better chances of hitting. Now, that doesn't mean you trade your early picks for more picks (like we did in the infamous 2009 draft) because the likelihood of hitting goes down after the early rounds.

Another way of putting it is in 2022 we had four fifth-round picks. The players we selected were Matt Waletzko, DaRon Bland, Damone Clark and John Ridgeway. Bland is the only hit in that group. Now, Jason Ferguson was our only fourth-round pick that year and was a hit, so you might argue that trading three of those fifth-rounders for a fourth would nail us two hits, but it could also nail us Jabril Cox, Josh Ball and Simi Fehoko.
 

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As of right now the Cowboys are picking -

5th round:
150 - 31
170 - 23
172 - 23
174 - 22

6th round:
190 - 15
211 - 7

Some examples of the 4 round values:
1st pick 102 - 102
112 - 70
122 - 50
132 - 40

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I would use one of the fifths on a developmental QB. I wonder if someone like Riley Leonard will be available then. I believe he's projected as a mid-Day 3 pick.
 

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I would use one of the fifths on a developmental QB. I wonder if someone like Riley Leonard will be available then. I believe he's projected as a mid-Day 3 pick.

If you don’t attempt to get back to round 4 by trading some of these comp picks and draft a viable possibility as an NFL QB like McCord you may as well forget QB for this draft .

Round 5 will not get you a QB to supply accountability options to Dak . Although Mike White was a 5 yrs ago for Dallas and as a Jet he sunk the Bengals with a 450 yard day but has done little else .

Tanner McKee was a 6 for Philly and he did go deep dropped some end zone damage on Dallas last game of the season . Of course Dallas was down to non competing talent at CB by that game with injuries .
 
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If you don’t attempt to get back to round 4 by trading some of these comp picks and draft a viable possibility as an NFL QB like McCord you may as well forget QB for this draft .

Round 5 will not get you a QB to supply accountability options to Dak . Although Mike White was a 5 yrs ago for Dallas and as a Jet he sunk the Bengals with a 450 yard day but has done little else .

Tanner McKee was a 6 for Philly and he did go deep dripped some end zone damage on Dallas last game of the season . Of course Dallas was down to non competing talent at CB by that game with injuries .
I don't see this great need to take one in the fourth or somehow miss out. There is not much difference between a fourth or a fifth. Both rounds are a roll of the dice. The main thing with late-round QBs is to keep swinging each year. Dallas has done a poor job of that. We've draft three QBs since 2016.
 

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Round 5 will not get you a QB to supply accountability options to Dak . Although Mike White was a 5 yrs ago for Dallas and as a Jet he sunk the Bengals with a 450 yard day but has done little else .
No QB drafted on Day 3 is going to "supply accountability." Dallas was lucky that a fourth-rounder was able to step in when Romo got hurt, just like it was lucky to get Romo as an undrafted free agent. If you want accountability, then you are going to need to take a QB in the second at the latest. Otherwise, you have to hope to get lucky.
 

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No QB drafted on Day 3 is going to "supply accountability." Dallas was lucky that a fourth-rounder was able to step in when Romo got hurt, just like it was lucky to get Romo as an undrafted free agent. If you want accountability, then you are going to need to take a QB in the second at the latest. Otherwise, you have to hope to get lucky.

I don’t think you have to spend a 2 on McCord my thinking is if he’s still available at 4 make it happen . I think he’s got enough talent he can give Dallas a nice project to develop . By 2026 see if at QB2 he can give Dak reason to push himself . Right now Prescott is never worried of benching .
 

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Dak needs certain accountability , benching when he’s ineffective or competitive upside replacement when he’s hurt . A draft pick no later then 4 could provide this .
no position in the draft fails as much as QBs; and the rate of failure rises extremely fast after the top half of the first rd.
If you are going to draft a QB late find one that has the basic physical skills and seems to have a head on his shoulders
 
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