Take this as you will

[Stash]

Oh give me a break. At the end of the year they do team and player evaluations where the coaches evaluate the roster. It his duty to give his opinion on all the players and not just Dez. You have no idea what has or has not been relayed to Dez about that evaluation.

Give me "a break". This isn't one guy reporting one thing. There's smoke all over the place. If you want to pretend the house isn't on fire, go right ahead, but that's on you.

Also pretend that Linehan has never been involved in this sort of thing before. I know what went down with him in St Louis before he was unceremoniously dumped on his *** after four games. His top players hated him. When he undermined them too. And it was the player's fault back then too, just like it is now.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

In Sammy Watkins, you'd be paying potential, not proven production. I'm not crazy about that idea, not at $16 million a year for sure.



It's one I share. I think the genie's out of the bottle. An emotional player now knows that you tried to replace him.



I don't see it after the money that was thrown at far lesser receivers either. I have to call this yet another thing that's they've mishandled. And this dealing with Hurns only reinforces that feeling for me.

I don't think they see the Watkins and Hurns deal as the same.

I think with Watkins they seen a guy who they could sign now, draft a WR and cut Dez this year.

I think with Hurns they see a guy who they could sign now, draft a WR and cut Dez Next year.

I think they seen Watkins as a guy to replace Dez for this year as a bridge hoping the new WR will pan out after a year or two.

I think they see Hurns as a 2nd until they can draft another 1.


Either way...Watkins is not a dependable player IMO due to injuries. If part of the theory is that Dez was hurt the last year or two and that is partially the problem with him...why replace him with someone who is injured more and does not even see the field.

And I think we both agree that they put themselves into a situation that no matter the outcome with the Watkins situation...they were going to screw the proverbial pooch. If they got Watkins, Cut dez and Watkins gets three games in and gets injured for the rest of the season...waste of money.

They do not get watkins, dez finds out the plan, he is emotional and is the type that can really cause distraction as S.Jones has pointed out.

 

[Bobhaze]

Oh I agree.

It's completely reactive. "Let's fix what cost us our Super Bowl last year!" Type stuff. They always operate as if they were "one piece away".

And it’s based on a faulty assumption that believes that if a player was really good in 2016, they will automatically be just as effective in 2017, running the same plays, same scheme, with no adjustments.

Cole Beasley is a great example of this faulty thinking. He caught 78 passes in 2016, so when the rest of the league saw what his worth was to Dak, they schemed to take Beasley away. Our coaches response was to continue using Beasley as was done in 2016. Because they assume everything should work the way it did the year before. Beas goes from 78 catches in 2016 to 36 in 2017.

This team’s FO and coaches are not very good at understanding their roster, it’s strengths, limitations or the importance making adjustments on how to use its roster. They are playing checkers in a chess league.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

If they could have signed the player they liked and pulled it off...might consider it a good plan.

But since it did not and we all know that Dez let's his emotions get the better of him...this really looks bad all the way around.

But that is just an opinion.

Maybe it helps them in getting Dez to redo his deal for a cheaper price...but If I was Dez I don't think I would do it after it looks like they were going to do this deal and get rid of him.

This is the most over-looked part this issue IMO. Coz of what he's been through, Dez strike me as the kind of person not easy to break bread with. Takes a lot get inside his circle of trust but once you're in, you in for life. Seems the kind of relationship he and Mike Fisher may have. I'm guessing he had this same kind of trust for FO and that's his comments on the whole pay-cut thing was about respect. To me trying sign Watkins showed the ultimate disrespect. This is why I've said I don't think you repair the damage. To bring him back into a healthy locker room is risky IMO. You getting a player with a log-sized chip on his shoulder with a possible vengeful attitude. Not a good combination ........

 

[Stash]

I don't think they see the Watkins and Hurns deal as the same.

I think with Watkins they seen a guy who they could sign now, draft a WR and cut Dez this year.

I think with Hurns they see a guy who they could sign now, draft a WR and cut Dez Next year.

I think they seen Watkins as a guy to replace Dez for this year as a bridge hoping the new WR will pan out after a year or two.

I think they see Hurns as a 2nd until they can draft another 1.

That's plausible, but I don't think the cost would add up.

As you said, Watkins would replace Dez immediately for that $16 million. And that's one thing. But Hurns has been making $10 million a year, and he has a market. A market that includes the cap-flush, receiver-starved New York Jets. Who, if you've noticed have been overpaying anybody who will even visit them.

So Hurns would be a high-priced addition as well. Not Watkins priced, but not cheap either. And Dallas is already paying quite a lot for their receivers already and Williams salary for this year is guaranteed. That's an awful lot to carry.

Either way...Watkins is not a dependable player IMO due to injuries. If part of the theory is that Dez was hurt the last year or two and that is partially the problem with him...why replace him with someone who is injured more and does not even see the field.

And I think we both agree that they put themselves into a situation that no matter the outcome with the Watkins situation...they were going to screw the proverbial pooch. If they got Watkins, Cut dez and Watkins gets three games in and gets injured for the rest of the season...waste of money.

They do not get watkins, dez finds out the plan, he is emotional and is the type that can really cause distraction as S.Jones has pointed out.

Agreed. I'm no fan of any part of this plan.

 

[Bobhaze]

Never really been a big FO-basher fan/poster but sounds like the best thing for this team is for Jerry either bring in GM or sell. Hell sounds like as many issues in FO as on the field last season........that's crazy

Sadly, it will snow in downtown Dallas on the 4th of July before Jerry Jones releases ownership or control of this team.

 

[Bullflop]

It's anyone's guess what might come of the situation with Dez and his tenuous situation with the FO and Stephen in particular. It might be to the team's advantage if Dez were traded for another WR with the ability to run routes accurately, get separation regularly and perhaps be in far better sync with Dak. As it now stands, it seems to me that Dez has become a stumbling block to the success of our offense and the team's stability, financially and otherwise. Admittedly, he once was a #1 receiver, although those days are obviously well behind him (jmho.)

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Give me "a break". This isn't one guy reporting one thing. There's smoke all over the place. If you want to pretend the house isn't on fire, go right ahead, but that's on you.

Also pretend that Linehan has never been involved in this sort of thing before. I know what went down with him in St Louis before he was unceremoniously dumped on his *** after four games. His top players hated him. When he undermined them too. And it was the player's fault back then too, just like it is now.

I'm not talking about the report. I take anything that Fisher writes with a big grain of salt but that is besides the point. I am talking about your rant taking what Fish wrote and making your own soap opera out of it. It is Linehan's job to evaluate his staff and players not to coddle them.

The Wade Phillips style of "Let's be nice to everyone so they are fat and happy" management style doesn't work. Great coaches like Belichick and Landry are notorious for creating uncomfortable environments. Players worried about their place and job work and focus harder.

And then of course there is no discussion whether or not Linehan is right. He wanted to get rid of Pollock, Dooley, and Wilson? Boo friggin hoo. The OL was grossly misevaluated and coached last season. The WR and QB underperformed, regressed. Loney who was not mentioned --likely because his being a Linehan guy undermines the narrative- was also canned.

And quite frankly, Dez does not match Dak's skillset. I like Dez and think he is a talented football player. I also think because Dak cannot throw jump balls and deep balls they are a bad fit. Dez needs to be replaced.

 

[Stash]

And it’s based on a faulty assumption that believes that if a player was really good in 2016, they will automatically be just as effective in 2017, running the same plays, same scheme, with no adjustments.

Coke Beasley is a great example of this faulty thinking. He caught 78 passes in 2016, so when the rest of the league saw what his worth was to Dak, they schemed to take Beasley away. Our coaches response was to continue using Beasley as was done in 2016. Because they assume everything should work the way it did the year before. Beas goes from 78 catches in 2016 to 36 in 2017.

This team’s FO and coaches are not very good at understanding their roster, it’s strengths, limitations or the importance making adjustments on how to use its roster. They are playing checkers in a chess league.

No doubt. They can't compete with the better staffs in this league.

Two words. Chaz Green.

He had two good games in 2016, and this staff assumed all was well with him. They found out how wrong they were and were so unprepared that they froze. And did nothing.

What is utterly amazing to me is that in three years of being around the guy that they couldn't see his flaws? They couldn't foresee him struggling out there? Do they practice at all? Is the guy ever tested or is to dance moves out there?

 

[MyFairLady]

Kinda getting tired of Dez. He wins with superior physical gifts. As sad as it is to admit these gifts are fading. He is so obsessed with "respect" it comes across to me as insecurity. If we want to succeed as a franchise we need to be bigger than an aging WR. Does he even fit with what we are trying to do?

 

[Cowboys22]

I don’t really know what to believe but I do believe there’s is way too much dysfunction surrounding the team. I think Jerry and Stephen are trying to keep a tight grip on all the control even though they have way too many other things going on that take the focus off winning. Garrett, Linehan, and Marinelli still being employed is all the proof you need that the front office is dysfunctional and cannot make rational decisions geared towards winning football games. Then you have the constant changing positions that is more proof they don’t know what they are doing. You can’t draft guys in the 1st and 2nd rounds if you don’t already know what position they will play. It’s ming blowing to me.

 

[Whyjerry]

I read a recent article from Mike Fisher, and it's lambasting the Cowboys and their handling of the Dez Bryant situation.

While I realize that Fisher isn't the greatest source and a big baby himself, I also realize that he does have ears inside the team. Remember, he broke the Doug Free retirement story before even Garrett knew it was happening.

And I also realize that he's an unabashed Dez Bryant guy, so that inevitably influences his position.

But, in reading this piece, it paints an alarming picture of what's currently going on with the Cowboys, and if true, "Dysfunction Junction" is in full effect.

https://scout.com/nfl/cowboys/Artic...-Is-Anti-Dez-Bryant-Please-Stand-Up-116519608

Thanks for this. Is this year any different than other off-seasons? Suspensions. Greg Hardy. Special Teams drafts. Publicly lamenting passing on Johnny Manziel. The Romo debacle. Bill Parcells. Jimmy Johnson getting fired. Glory holes. Public drunken Jerry. DGoodrich. Players pulling guns in parking lots. Every year this team has some sort of side show. Dysfunctional then. Dysfunctional now.

 

[Stash]

I'm not talking about the report. I take anything that Fisher writes with a big grain of salt but that is besides the point. I am talking about your rant taking what Fish wrote and making your own soap opera out of it. It is Linehan's job to evaluate his staff and players not to coddle them.

Which is a completely different subject. Of course it's part of the job, and something that nobody is talking about, including Fisher. You seem to want to interject it as if someone is misunderstanding the normal routine which isn't true by a long shot.

The Wade Phillips style of "Let's be nice to everyone so they are fat and happy" management style doesn't work. Great coaches like Belichick and Landry are notorious for creating uncomfortable environments. Players worried about their place and job work and focus harder.

And then of course there is no discussion whether or not Linehan is right. He wanted to get rid of Pollock, Dooley, and Wilson? Boo friggin hoo. The OL was grossly misevaluated and coached last season. The WR and QB underperformed, regressed. Loney who was not mentioned --likely because his being a Linehan guy undermines the narrative- was also canned.

And the offensive coordinator is responsible for it all. But everyone else takes the fall and the backroom politician not only undeservedly keeps his job, but gets his runt of the litter adopted son a job he's unprepared for.

And quite frankly, Dez does not match Dak's skillset. I like Dez and think he is a talented football player. I also think because Dak cannot throw jump balls and deep balls they are a bad fit. Dez needs to be replaced.

Based on the results, nobody is a good "match" for Dak Prescott right now. Every one of the receivers had terrible years in 2017, and they all didn't just forget how to play at the same time. Prescott own struggles played a big part in this team's passing game struggles too.

The finger of blame can't simply be pointed at any one player, it was collective failure. And it starts with the guy running the show.

 

[MCMetal69]

Why would anyone give a below average coach like Linehan any type of power over team personnel ? Seems to me Dez' play has deteriorated the more responsibility Scotty has been given....................

I wouldn't let him be a judge at a dog show...............................

 

[G2]

The issue I have is this "Family is everything" loyalty that some players have.
We spend 3 1st round pics to build the line. A 1st for a RB. The defense looks to be coming around.

Yet once again, the idiotic staff continues to do the same BS they always do. That is keeping players until there's zero tread and we're forced to fill these spots with uncertainty.
The Dez contract should have never been done, they should have had a plan to replenish the position systematically.
You know, like good teams like NE?

I'm getting tired of this every year.

 

[Stash]

Why would anyone give a below average coach like Linehan any type of power over team personnel ? Seems to me Dez' play has deteriorated the more responsibility Scotty has been given....................

I wouldn't let him be a judge at a dog show...............................

And yet they decided to give his "adopted son" the quarterback coach job, despite zero coaching experience whatsoever.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Which is a completely different subject. Of course it's part of the job, and something that nobodynis talking about, including Fisher. You seem to want to interject it as if someone is misunderstanding the normal routine which isn't true by a long shot.



And the offensive coordinator is responsible for it all. But everyone else takes the fall and the backroom politician not only undeservedly keeps his job, but gets his runt of the litter adopted son a job he's unprepared for.



Based on the results, nobody is a good "match" for Dak Prescott right now. Every one of the receivers had terrible years in 2017, and they all didn't just forget how to play at the same time. Prescott own struggles played a big part in this team's passing game struggles too.

The finger of blame can't simply be pointed at any one player, it was collective failure. And it starts with the guy running the show.

You claim that but then complain when he evaluates that Dez needs to be replaced. The two notions are mutually exclusive. You either accept that is his job and don't complain when he does it or you don't.

And sure Linehan is responsible for the offense but the issue comes down to what happened in detail that we do not have knowledge of. We will see next year in whether or not we play better but acting like this dynamic is a necessarily a problem is unfounded. Maybe Linehan is at fault and maybe he is not but I am not going to let Fisher dictate which way the wind blows.

 

[MCMetal69]

And yet they decided to give his "adopted son" the quarterback coach job, despite zero coaching experience whatsoever.

Yeah , another move that defies logic , which means it makes complete sense to the Jones boys..................................

 

[cern]

"Believe your eyes".........the great parcells. My eyes see a dez who's a shadow of his former self. Too many injuries have taken their toll on his body.

 

[G2]

You claim that but then complain when he evaluates that Dez needs to be replaced. The two notions are mutually exclusive. You either accept that is his job and don't complain when he does it or you don't.

And sure Linehan is responsible for the offense but the issue comes down to what happened in detail that we do not have knowledge of. We will see next year in whether or not we play better but acting like this dynamic is a necessarily a problem is unfounded. Maybe Linehan is at fault and maybe he is not but I am not going to let Fisher dictate which way the wind blows.

Fisher knows more than you.