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LatinMind

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• If Cowboys win the action against Ratliff, they would recoup salary cap immediately.

• NFL should take action on this because they shouldnt allow players to do stuff like this just because they have a grudge against the team.

• Ratliff was always a strange guy. One guy you tried to avoid.

• MIckey: "i ran into agent of Ratliff. Been a tough couple weeks for you, he smiles and says yeah like he knew what he was doing"

• Weems and Ceasar are already at VR working out.

• Dallas wasnt serious with Jared Allen, kicking tires.

• Dallas wouldve been smarter business wise to put Ratliff on IR/Detrimental list but they wanted him away from the team.

• Tyron should be more important to resign right now.

• Use these 3 comp picks that you would target UDFA.

• Dallas had to bid against the Broncos for Romo.
 

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Creepy guy Rat. Noway the league gives Dallas Salary Cap relief. Ownership is too disliked.
 

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So Rat basically said that he was still hurt even though he was not. Then just trained on his own without supervision from Cowboys trainers. Jerry approached him about playing and he said no I am still not ready. Then Jerry releases him and he gets better in two weeks to sign with the Bears. NO CLASS!

Him and Cutler deserve to be on the same team.
 

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Creepy guy Rat. Noway the league gives Dallas Salary Cap relief. Ownership is too disliked.

You could very well be right. But if the league doesn't, it sets a (dangerous) precident for the next disgruntled player on an NFL team. Not necessarily the Cowboys' problem looking forward, but clearly if a player wants out, etc. he will use a similar tactic to Rat's.
 

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Had the chance to meet Rats a few times over the last several years. The first time was in 2008 and he came off as a great dude. Signed a helmet for my kiddo chatted up a bit with us leaving us with the thought of what a nice down to earth dude he was. The last time was in 2010 at a football camp in Denton and don't know what was up his booty that day but was a complete arse. He acted as if he was there by force and not by choice. We were pretty shocked cause the two other times he was so nice and this last time was a total jerk. I had heard from other folks that they guy had a Jekyll and Hyde personality but until I witnessed it I never would have believed it. Of all the players we have ever net he went from being one of the nicest to the biggest arse.
 

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I'd guess they were talking about when we signed him as an udfa

I believe he was offered more signing bonus them, but had some ties or connection with a Cowboys connection, so took less to come here. IIRC it was something like that.
 

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I believe he was offered more signing bonus them, but had some ties or connection with a Cowboys connection, so took less to come here. IIRC it was something like that.

Denver offered more but Sean Payton talked him into coming here. The CZ was all over that story when it broke.
 

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Signed with Dallas because of QB situation was worse than in Denver.

I remember reading somewhere, that Romo was on the verge of being released though, because there were too many QB's going into camp. But then Quincy's news about his failed drug test came out, so he was released instead.
Now was that true, or just something reported after the fact, who knows.
 

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I remember reading somewhere, that Romo was on the verge of being released though, because there were too many QB's going into camp. But then Quincy's news about his failed drug test came out, so he was released instead.
Now was that true, or just something reported after the fact, who knows.

what I have read on this over the years was that BP and Jerruh both kind of knew that Q was not long for the team but there were not a lot of options around. Then Jerruh saw Henson and fell in love; BP never thought Henson would amount to much but it allowed him to find a way to protect Romo who he did think had potential. BP apparently sold Jerruh on Romo staying with Q leaving as the understudy to Vinny as the backup while supposedly Henson was being groomed to be the guy. This was of course before we got Bledsoe. And then BP sold Jerruh on letting Vinny go and keeping Romo. Complicated QB dealings back then.
 

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• Dallas wouldve been smarter business wise to put Ratliff on IR/Detrimental list but they wanted him away from the team.
They would have had to pay him more if they put him on IR. IIRC is was about 600K more. The fact that he was on the PUP to begin the season prevented his salary from being guaranteed. They had to pay him while he was on the PUP but not after he was released. I don't remember the specifics, they might have had to pay some injury settlement money but I know that didn't have to pay his entire salary.

Unfortunately, they had already restructuring his contract and he received most of his original salary as a restructure bonus in March.
 

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Creepy guy Rat. Noway the league gives Dallas Salary Cap relief. Ownership is too disliked.

The league has to consider their own interests. If they let Rat get by with this is could start a trend of players faking injury to get out of contract that they don't like.

Also, the Cowboys have the option to take this to court separate from whatever the league does because is involved real money.
 

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Creepy guy Rat. Noway the league gives Dallas Salary Cap relief. Ownership is too disliked.

The way they sound the NFL wouldnt want to set a precedent on a case like Ratliff's that would allow players and agents to do this type of thing on the regular.
 
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