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Are the Bucs the best team in the NFC? Their record says so (tied with Giants). Their coach says so. So why aren't they? Do we need a young coach like Morris?
 
links18;3669075 said:
Are the Bucs the best team in the NFC? Their record says so (tied with Giants). Their coach says so. So why aren't they? Do we need a young coach like Morris?


yes as soon as something works for 1 team we must go out and copy it, Its the only way we can win.

we'll get a young coach, and new digs and just prove to the world we can copy anyone.
 
IF Wade said that kind of stuff, Dallas media would make fun of him to no end. Its depends on the delivery. And it depends on what Morris says when he has a bad record.

Besides Young or old, what Dallas needs is stability and consistent message, coming from HC.
 
Tampa sucks. The only two good teams they played murdered them :laugh2:

They beat Zona by 3, STL by 1, Clev by 3, Car by 13, and Cin by 3.

Yes they find a way to win blah blah blah...they still suck.
 
Future;3669198 said:
Tampa sucks. The only two good teams they played murdered them :laugh2:

They beat Zona by 3, STL by 1, Clev by 3, Car by 13, and Cin by 3.

Yes they find a way to win blah blah blah...they still suck.
Just the facts. :laugh1:
 
Future;3669198 said:
Yes they find a way to win blah blah blah...they still suck.
better to suck and find a way to win than be the most talented team in the league and find a way to lose. although I agree with you, Tampa is smoke and mirrors.
 
ShiningStar;3669076 said:
yes as soon as something works for 1 team we must go out and copy it, Its the only way we can win.

we'll get a young coach, and new digs and just prove to the world we can copy anyone.

you mean like the jets with Rex, Pittsburg with Tomlin I wanted a young coach when Jerry went after Wade
 
Future;3669198 said:
Tampa sucks. The only two good teams they played murdered them :laugh2:

They beat Zona by 3, STL by 1, Clev by 3, Car by 13, and Cin by 3.

Yes they find a way to win blah blah blah...they still suck.

yet this team could not beat those teams so what is your point
 
The Giants are the best of the NFC right now by a large margin. TB is coming but they are a year or two away. I like their QB.
 
Tampa will lose to Atlanta this weekend.

So NYG and then Atlanta are the top 2 teams.
 
Kangaroo;3669209 said:
you mean like the jets with Rex, Pittsburg with Tomlin I wanted a young coach when Jerry went after Wade


im all for it now, i just didnt believe in Ron Riveria like everyone else. Im hoping this crop is better.

I want the younger guy now because i want time and consistency here. Tho ive been breaching for scrapping everything and letting a new GM and coach build here.
 
links18;3669075 said:
Are the Bucs the best team in the NFC? Their record says so (tied with Giants). Their coach says so. So why aren't they? Do we need a young coach like Morris?

No way ! I went to a Tampa game this year and their record is a mirage.
believe me they are not that good.
 
jimmy40;3669207 said:
better to suck and find a way to win than be the most talented team in the league and find a way to lose. although I agree with you, Tampa is smoke and mirrors.

But they're a young team and their coach is trying to establish an identity for them.

Remember when Jimmy Johnson was questioned about the relative youth of his team and its expectations. Jimmy Johnson said, empathically, "We will be in the playoffs."

When you have a good game plan and strategy, when you practice with detail and discipline in mind and when you have talented players, your next step is building their confidence.

Some coaches can do that. Some can't.

I'll leave it to the forum to determine which ones can't.

I don't have any problem with what Norris said. He's trying to get his team to believe they can be great and believe their coach when he says so.
 
tyke1doe;3669241 said:
I don't have any problem with what Norris said. He's trying to get his team to believe they can be great and believe their coach when he says so.
I don't even know what he said I just don't think they're very good but whatever works, works.
 
jobberone;3669213 said:
The Giants are the best of the NFC right now by a large margin.

I am still not ready to agree with this. If the Giants continue to turn the ball over the way they are, they will lose to teams like the Falcons, Saints, and Eagles.
 
Tom [Giants fan];3669247 said:
I am still not ready to agree with this. If the Giants continue to turn the ball over the way they are, they will lose to teams like the Falcons, Saints, and Eagles.


The problem is all 3 of the teams you named have big issues as well.

Atlanta's given up 2 straight 400yd passing games.

Falcons- 27th in pass d
Saints-29th in rushing offense
8 turnovers in last 3 games.
Philly-23rd in points allowed
 
links18;3669075 said:
Are the Bucs the best team in the NFC? Their record says so (tied with Giants). Their coach says so. So why aren't they?

Future;3669198 said:
They beat Zona by 3, STL by 1, Clev by 3, Car by 13, and Cin by 3.
Just like the Chiefs. Anyone wanna believe they are for real yet? Go check who they beat and who they lost too.
 
big dog cowboy;3669269 said:
Just like the Chiefs. Anyone wanna believe they are for real yet? Go check who they beat and who they lost too.

Both teams are supposed to have inferior talent.

Both teams are playing hard for their coach.

Both teams are playing disciplined football despite being apparently outmatched by the media pundits and on paper.

Heart, determination, and discipline go a long way in a league set up for parity.
 
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