Tauscher/Barron

[dfense]

I'm not making excuses for, but I find it interesting how the Packers RT Tauscher performed as bad or worse than Alex barron did in the opener. Serveral holding calls, false starts, a TD called back because of him and a few times where he should have been called for holding but didn't.

YEt he doesn't get grilled in the media this morning like Barron did for a full week. There's barely a mention of how bad he was.

Ahh, life under the Cowboy microscope.

 

[Yeagermeister]

If he had caused the game winning td to be called back and the game to end he probably would be getting grilled.

 

[casmith07]

If he had caused the game winning td to be called back and the game to end he probably would be getting grilled.

Yeah. Flozell Adams had plenty of penalty-ridden games with leg whips and the like and wasn't grilled because he wasn't solely responsible for the loss.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm not making excuses for, but I find it interesting how the Packers RT Tauscher performed as bad or worse than Alex barron did in the opener. Serveral holding calls, false starts, a TD called back because of him and a few times where he should have been called for holding but didn't.

YEt he doesn't get grilled in the media this morning like Barron did for a full week. There's barely a mention of how bad he was.

Ahh, life under the Cowboy microscope.

Plus what does that say of the 1st round pick the Packers spent on an offensive tackle, Bryan Bulaga? A player several Cowboy fans wanted the Cowboys to draft.

 

[Stautner]

I'm not making excuses for, but I find it interesting how the Packers RT Tauscher performed as bad or worse than Alex barron did in the opener. Serveral holding calls, false starts, a TD called back because of him and a few times where he should have been called for holding but didn't.

YEt he doesn't get grilled in the media this morning like Barron did for a full week. There's barely a mention of how bad he was.

Ahh, life under the Cowboy microscope.

Are you checking with the Green Bay media?

 

[cwbyfan72]

after a horrible display of discipline by the pack, and losing...ESPN still gushes over your QB and team. Must be nice Green Bay.

 

[Stautner]

after a horrible display of discipline by the pack, and losing...ESPN still gushes over your QB and team. Must be nice Green Bay.

Rogers is still a very good QB, and it was one loss for GB. Everythnig doesn't rise and fall on one game.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

after a horrible display of discipline by the pack, and losing...ESPN still gushes over your QB and team. Must be nice Green Bay.

I found this STUNNING. If you had not watched the game...you would have THOUGHT the Packers won they way they went on and on after the game about Rodgers. I like Rodgers. I think he is a stud. But the rules for him in the NATIONAL media are different than the rules for Romo. All we ever heard was Romo is not the great because he has not won a playoff game. Last night Steve Young said Rodgers was in the same class with Manning and Brady!!!!!!!!

 

[aikemirv]

The ONLY way Romo will ever get the credit he is due is if he wins a couple of Super Bowls.

It is just nuts, I had a discussion with a guy last night who said Romo was not even in the top 15 at the QB position and laughed at me saying Romo was just as good as Rodgers. Then I had a Cowboy fan (young kid) say that Eli was better than Romo.

This is an ESPN geneartion who believes everything they here on these news shows and really don't watch much or decide much for themselves.

The guy had the nerve to say that Romo had a much better team around him than Rodgers does and better WR's. I though GB had the best receiving core in the league.

 

[TNCowboy]

I'm not making excuses for, but I find it interesting how the Packers RT Tauscher performed as bad or worse than Alex barron did in the opener. Serveral holding calls, false starts, a TD called back because of him and a few times where he should have been called for holding but didn't.

YEt he doesn't get grilled in the media this morning like Barron did for a full week. There's barely a mention of how bad he was.

Ahh, life under the Cowboy microscope.

Listening to ESPN radio this morning, there's been plenty of bashing of him and the Packers as a whole for the 18 penalties.

 

[Stautner]

I think some of you gusy have selective memory. The first couple of years Romo was the starter the media made him a celebrity, putting him on a pedestal with the elite QB's in football. It was premature, and over time and December meltdowns and key mistakes in key games the sheen wore off. That's just the nature of the media, and like with Romo, eventually Rogers star will fade some if the team stagnates or Rogers starts to become the goat in some key games.

The anti-cowboy conspiracy theories appear to be rampant this week.

 

[Idgit]

I think some of you gusy have selective memory. The first couple of years Romo was the starter the media made him a celebrity, putting him on a pedestal with the elite QB's in football. It was premature, and over time and December meltdowns and key mistakes in key games the sheen wore off. That's just the nature of the media, and like with Romo, eventually Rogers star will fade some if the team stagnates or Rogers starts to become the goat in some key games.

The anti-cowboy conspiracy theories appear to be rampant this week.

Romo's still had one of the best starting records in the last two minutes of each half. And he's had a ton of last-minute success. The December meltdowns have been pretty well documented to be games against very good teams. And the key mistakes were largely isolated to the 7-8 fumbles he had playing with a broken hand.

There's not that much conspiracy around the fact that Romo is targeted unfairly by media. Just look at the coverage of his trip to Cabo and compare it to how he played that week. He's the Cowboys QB, and with that comes the fact that there's more attention paid when you bash the Cowboys. I think it's pretty-well proven at this point that that sells.

 

[aikemirv]

If you don't understand that the Cowboys and their individual players are the team that everyone loves to hate and that it flows greatly into the media reports then I really don't know what to say. It is there so much to the point that I will not watch pregame shows or many other shows where the Cowboys are brought up because of it.

They are held to a higher standard!

It is a FACT!

Aikman never gets mentioned with the top QB's of his time. Emmitt is lucky to get in a top 5 list and he is the all-time leading rusher.

And by the way, Romo was appreciated so much in the beginning because people saw right away what he could do with an oline that was in shambles compared to what Bledsoe had done. Today it is just taken for granted. You can put his stats up against anybody. December meltdowns were TEAM meltdowns not Tony. The Giants loss in the playoffs is on the Oline and WR's. Anotrher case to the higher standard argument. He not only has to throw the pass, he has to complete the route (crayton) catch the pass(crayton) and block for himself.

 

[Stautner]

Romo's still had one of the best starting records in the last two minutes of each half. And he's had a ton of last-minute success. The December meltdowns have been pretty well documented to be games against very good teams. And the key mistakes were largely isolated to the 7-8 fumbles he had playing with a broken hand.

There's not that much conspiracy around the fact that Romo is targeted unfairly by media. Just look at the coverage of his trip to Cabo and compare it to how he played that week. He's the Cowboys QB, and with that comes the fact that there's more attention paid when you bash the Cowboys. I think it's pretty-well proven at this point that that sells.

Conspiracy theorists always have an explanation to support their conspiracy.

The fact is, you can make excuses all you want for Romo, but the team self-destructred in 3-4 consecutive Decembers (not all Romo years) and the celebrated - and celebrity - quarterback is going to take some heat for that. Especially when he made some very bad decisions in some of those games. It goes with the territory, and it's nonsense to suggest that only applies to Dallas QB's.

Another thing is that despite whatever legitimacy the excuses for Romo may have, perception is at least as big a factor as reality. A celebrity QB with celebrity girlfriends is going to have a target on his back, and the only way to avoid media fallout from that is to win it all. That was the key with the Cabo thing, and th difference between Romo and Brady. Brady was winning Super bowls while he was dating models.

The reality also is that Romo was elevated to star status, and actually celebrity status, way too soon. Before he had proven anything. When that kind of status isn't built on a solid foundation, it's bound to take a fall.

As for what sells, sure the Cowboys sell. But it's not just the negative. If we were perennial Super Bowl contenders Romo would get the same kind of lofty treatment Brady gets, but because we always fall short, he takes the hit. It goes with the territory of being with a high profile team. The glory and the failure are magnified.

 

[baj1dallas]

Listening to ESPN radio this morning, there's been plenty of bashing of him and the Packers as a whole for the 18 penalties.

there is a little bit of a double standard though. They're just catering to fans, there aren't a whole lot of anti Packers fans, and there are a lot of anti Dallas fans.

 

[perrykemp]

there is a little bit of a double standard though. They're just catering to fans, there aren't a whole lot of anti Packers fans, and there are a lot of anti Dallas fans.

I think that is what it basically amounts to:

The Cowboys are the most popular team in NFL. They are also the most unpopular team in the NFL.

The Packers are one of the top 5 most popular teams in the NFL, however, very few people hate the Packers.

 

[cwbyfan72]

Rogers is still a very good QB, and it was one loss for GB. Everythnig doesn't rise and fall on one game.

I do realize this captain obvious. If you wanna crown them, crown they ***!

 

[Idgit]

Conspiracy theorists always have an explanation to support their conspiracy.

The fact is, you can make excuses all you want for Romo, but the team self-destructred in 3-4 consecutive Decembers (not all Romo years) and the celebrated - and celebrity - quarterback is going to take some heat for that. Especially when he made some very bad decisions in some of those games. It goes with the territory, and it's nonsense to suggest that only applies to Dallas QB's.

Another thing is that despite whatever legitimacy the excuses for Romo may have, perception is at least as big a factor as reality. A celebrity QB with celebrity girlfriends is going to have a target on his back, and the only way to avoid media fallout from that is to win it all. That was the key with the Cabo thing, and th difference between Romo and Brady. Brady was winning Super bowls while he was dating models.

The reality also is that Romo was elevated to star status, and actually celebrity status, way too soon. Before he had proven anything. When that kind of status isn't built on a solid foundation, it's bound to take a fall.

As for what sells, sure the Cowboys sell. But it's not just the negative. If we were perennial Super Bowl contenders Romo would get the same kind of lofty treatment Brady gets, but because we always fall short, he takes the hit. It goes with the territory of being with a high profile team. The glory and the failure are magnified.

Conspiracy debunkers always have their debunking explanations.

I didn't say the negative coverage only applies to Dallas. I said that it applies to Dallas. And the December curse stuff is complete nonsense. Tony had at least one horrible game during that stretch (Pittsburg) and a lot of the types of games every QB has against the best defenses. Then the media and Dallas fans trot out the December stats as if it were the calendar and not the level of competition that was to blame for the QB rating drop.

I agree with you re: celebrity. And I agree with you regarding the fact that Dallas' success--if and when they really have some--is also magnified. You're wrong, though, to suggest that respect for Tony's play on the field during those seasons wasn't merited or built on a solid foundation. Tony's been playing really, really good football in Dallas almost from the moment he was inserted into the starting lineup.

 

[RS12]

The Packer secondary had a slew of ridiculous penalties. Other than Clay Mathews, they looked pretty ordinary on defense.

 

[Stautner]

Conspiracy debunkers always have their debunking explanations.

I didn't say the negative coverage only applies to Dallas. I said that it applies to Dallas. And the December curse stuff is complete nonsense. Tony had at least one horrible game during that stretch (Pittsburg) and a lot of the types of games every QB has against the best defenses. Then the media and Dallas fans trot out the December stats as if it were the calendar and not the level of competition that was to blame for the QB rating drop.

I agree with you re: celebrity. And I agree with you regarding the fact that Dallas' success--if and when they really have some--is also magnified. You're wrong, though, to suggest that respect for Tony's play on the field during those seasons wasn't merited or built on a solid foundation. Tony's been playing really, really good football in Dallas almost from the moment he was inserted into the starting lineup.

You don't get it. It doesn't matter if the December competition was good or not, we failed in December over and over and that's the perception that stuck. If the Patriots or Colts failed in December over and over nobody would say that it's meaningless because they played some tough teams, they would say Brady and the Patriots were folding in December.

And what do you mean you aren't saying these things only apply to Dallas. That's the point of contention - whether the media is targeting Dallas specifically to give negative attention to.

As for the elevation to celebrity status, I never said Tony didn't play good football from the beginning, but he had never won clutch games, playoff games, championships etc ...... yet he was put on a pedestal with the likes of Manning and Brady. You really think that was justified in his first year or two as a starter?