Tell us, Martellus, why Jerra chose you with our precious 3rd pick

GimmeTheBall!;2056634 said:
Because, who knew?
Who knew that out of all our needs that backup TE to one of the greatest TEs in the game today was a glaring need.

Oh, man, what a waste.

Even if Martellus proves to be NFL worthy, realistically, how much will he play behind Witten, T.O. and possibly and RW or Chad?
Martellus must be the best receiver blocker in the NCAA. Otherwise, whyu choose him?

Wow, what an enigmatic pick by Jerra.
My only hope is that he'll trade Martellus to some TE starved team today during the latter rounds.

:bang2:

bpa, dude. pure and simple.
 
What's wrong with Bennett playing on third and short? Those long three and four yd ones as well as the goal line.

I don't have any idea of how many plays Bennett will have this year. He could be injured and land on IR. So could Witten.

I imagine Curtis will get more snaps this year. But there is no reason not to take a player and develop him. I'd love to have two TEs like Witten on the team. I'm sure they would find a way to use them. Sure that would take some catches from Witten but I doubt he'd mind that much if he got to play in some SBs.
 
Woods;2056657 said:
It may not mean too much, but several of these draft gurus and draft guides do have Bennett ranked as the top overall TE this year. And had Bennett stayed on at Texas A&M, there's some thought that he would be a first round pick next year.

(For example, Ourlads Scouting Services has Bennett rated as the top TE, as does Sporting News. Not that it's the Bible, but it seems as though Bennett has a very big upside.)

Like many, I'm a little leery of this pick, but obviously something was up with the WR crop this year--none went in the first round, after all, and some of the better guys had injury, character, or productivity issues. One thing that Bennett brings to the table is that he can be split out--he has good speed for his size (sub 4.7 at 260 pounds is pretty impressive), and like Antonio Gates is a very agile, athletic guy with basketball background. And you can't teach height; 6-7 makes him a serious red-zone option. After two seasons, Fasano showed nothing special: adequate blocker, adequate receiver, but no flashes of special ability. Bennett looks to have more talent and upside.

While I'd like to see the Boys address the WR position, I'm not sure this year's draft was the best place to do it. Maybe Boldin, Williams, or Johnson will be available down the line. I'm not comfortable with Crayton as the #2 wideout, but let's be honest, offense wasn't the real problem for the Boys this year. The secondary problems seem to have been ably addressed, although I wonder if these new guys will have much of an impact if Roy Williams remains in the lineup. Love the guy, but he can't cover anybody.

Here's another topic: if you pick up another running back in the 4th, aren't you saying that you aren't sure that Marion Barber may be around? And if that's the case, wouldn't Rashard Mendenhall have been a safer pick than Felix Jones? To me, if you intend to keep Barber, period, Jones is the better pick--more explosive than Mendenhall, better kick returner. But if you think Barber might go, are you comfortable with little Felix Jones as your starter? Don't get me wrong, I like Jones a lot, and I love Barber, but Mendenhall seems like he's capable of being more of a workhorse back. Tashard Choice seems like a poor man's Barber to me.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2056666 said:
We were interested in Sweed. He didnt make it to us. Simpson and Jackson left the board before we got there too. What was left were dregs of a weak class for all the pimping Bennetts gotten from the reach squad. We were the 61st and we got good value for our pick.

Couldn't of said it better myself. BRAVO!!! FuzzyLumpkins. All these people whining about not being able to draft a wr out of a very weak wr crop. ***.
 
You need at least 3 RBs in the NFL now a days. Using a 4th rounder on someone you thought had more talent than that pick isn't a bad decision and give you some additional injury protection.

Everyone assumes that Barber is going to be this 20+ carry a game stud it seems. I don't see any sign that we are going to try and use him that way. I see us using him much like we did for most of last year, as a split carry back. Barber, I'd predict, will get somewhere between 50-60% of the carries. Doesn't seem like a bad way to do it either.
 
It's always the excuse for when we fail to draft a WR. What was our excuse last year? Oh yes, the 2 WRs we interested in went just before we picked. Maybe Cowboys should have traded up for one of them. Excuse this year - It was a poor WR class. Next year will be better. So what will be the excuse next year.

Jerry should be down on his knees every day thanking Tom Landry & other Cowboy officials back in 88 for drafting Michael Irvin. Cause Jerry & his crew now wouldn't have the balls. Geez, even the Cards were able to identify 2 WRs worth of playing for them (Fitz & Boudin) a few years ago & both have gone to the pro bowl. Also didn't Cards draft another WR today? Maybe Jerry should steal their signals & then draft the WR they were going to draft. Or ask the Colts or the Packers for WR names.
 
sago1;2059470 said:
It's always the excuse for when we fail to draft a WR. What was our excuse last year? Oh yes, the 2 WRs we interested in went just before we picked. Maybe Cowboys should have traded up for one of them. Excuse this year - It was a poor WR class. Next year will be better. So what will be the excuse next year.

Jerry should be down on his knees every day thanking Tom Landry & other Cowboy officials back in 88 for drafting Michael Irvin. Cause Jerry & his crew now wouldn't have the balls. Geez, even the Cards were able to identify 2 WRs worth of playing for them (Fitz & Boudin) a few years ago & both have gone to the pro bowl. Also didn't Cards draft another WR today? Maybe Jerry should steal their signals & then draft the WR they were going to draft. Or ask the Colts or the Packers for WR names.

None of this has anything to do with this year. The WR class was so weak that every single team either ignored the position or bailed out in the first round.

Every
single
team.

Don't you think that just maybe the experts had it right? No one drafted today is likely to beat out Hurd this year. Even teams desperate for WRs - Washington, Tenn. - waited.

This wasn't the year to go WR if you need to upgrade an established crew. And drafting a WR just to play special teams would be a huge waste.
 
iceberg;2059307 said:
bpa, dude. pure and simple.

that's exactly what i thought. they probably thought one of their receivers would fall to 61 and when all of them were snagged ahead they just went for the best value at that point. i'm glad we didn't reach for a marginal receiver there. i'm still hopefull that jerry can swing a deal for a veteran receiver after the june 1st cuts. if not we better hope 34 year old terrell owens doen't get nicked or else we'll be playing the wishbone.
 
This thread is hilarious. People ***** and whine when a team reaches for people and when they finally do go the BPA route people still ***** and whine.
 
GimmeTheBall!;2056634 said:
Because, who knew?
Who knew that out of all our needs that backup TE to one of the greatest TEs in the game today was a glaring need.

Oh, man, what a waste.

Even if Martellus proves to be NFL worthy, realistically, how much will he play behind Witten, T.O. and possibly and RW or Chad?
Martellus must be the best receiver blocker in the NCAA. Otherwise, whyu choose him?

Wow, what an enigmatic pick by Jerra.
My only hope is that he'll trade Martellus to some TE starved team today during the latter rounds.

:bang2:
You messed up with the first sentence in your rant. Maybe he wasnt a glaring need, but if they thought he was a PLAYER, and could contribute to this team, why not draft him? I dont know much about him, but apparently he is a WR/TE hybrid style of reciever
 
I hated the Fasano pick because I didn't think he brought enough to the table as a receiver and then he went on to disappoint as a blocker as well.

This guy has good size, speed and athleticism. If we can harness his potential we will create many mismatches as defenses try to match us in a two-TE set with two capable blocking and receiving TEs.

Adding a guy like Felix with good receiving skills and speed just makes it even more difficult for the defense to match up. Are we going to a 4-wide setup or a power 1-back set? Hard to put a defense out to match both of those possibilities.
 
I read they had this guy earmarked before the draft even started and really wanted him. Jerry was worried he wouldn't be there when our second round pick came around and wanted to trade up to make sure we got him. TSN had him rated the top tight end with the unusual ability to be both a good blocker and reciever. Interestingly they compared him to Jason Witten.
 
Nav22;2056645 said:
Let's be real... Fasano made almost no impact in his 2 years here, even when he saw the field. 14 catches each year, just 1 TD, and 1 memorable playoff drop that cost us a TD. He's really only been an adequate blocker. And to top it all off, he's committed some truly stupid penalties that have hurt us.

So I really don't see what makes you think Fasano was so "ready to play".

Bennett has been called the most complete TE in the draft. I won't pretend to know he'll be better than Fasano, because I don't, but I do think he has more upside both as a receiver and as a blocker. I like the pick.And explain to me why we need a rookie WR more than a rookie TE.

I'll save you the trouble: you can't. For your sake, let's assume Terry Glenn retires. And this is a very premature assumption to make.

What rookie WR, available at pick 61, are you positive would beat out Sam Hurd and/or Isaiah Stanback to see any kind of significant playing time? Considering how huge a role Jason Witten plays in our offense, why would an upgrade at 5th WR be more necessary than a solid backup to Witten?Spoken like a true "casual fan".

Again, TE is a very important position for our team. We wanted to IMPROVE the depth at TE that we had with Fasano... hence the trade. Bennett has been called the most complete TE in the draft.

Ideally, he would be an improvement over Fasano, and we could still keep that position as a focal point of our offense in the event of a Witten injury.

I hope that was clear enough for you.
Good post.
 
Eskimo;2059582 said:
I hated the Fasano pick because I didn't think he brought enough to the table as a receiver and then he went on to disappoint as a blocker as well.
I hated the Fasano pick because at the time, we were still re-building and had tons of other holes. But at this time, we are looking for great back up players and role players, and no Rookie receiver is going to make an impact for the next 3 years. We don't have that long.
 
GimmeTheBall!;2056634 said:
Because, who knew?
Who knew that out of all our needs that backup TE to one of the greatest TEs in the game today was a glaring need.

Oh, man, what a waste.

Even if Martellus proves to be NFL worthy, realistically, how much will he play behind Witten, T.O. and possibly and RW or Chad?
Martellus must be the best receiver blocker in the NCAA. Otherwise, whyu choose him?

Wow, what an enigmatic pick by Jerra.
My only hope is that he'll trade Martellus to some TE starved team today during the latter rounds.

:bang2:


Apparently you don't pay a lot of attention during games because we run a lot of two TE and this gives us a guy who could potentially block better than Anthony, allowing us to get Witten out there in routes even more, and clearly, from what I've seen, has a better upside and ability as a recieving TE than Anthony as well.


This was a very nice pick. I like it.
 
Clove;2059639 said:
I hated the Fasano pick because at the time, we were still re-building and had tons of other holes. But at this time, we are looking for great back up players and role players, and no Rookie receiver is going to make an impact for the next 3 years. We don't have that long.

There were lots of reasons to hate the Fasano pick. I'm just glad we don't have to see him wear the star anymore. In situations like these it is just best to cut your losses and move on.
 
well like ive said already (BPA) I would rather have another good TE than another bad WR
 
Where did this all-world Martellus Bennett come from all of a sudden?
Admit it. You don't follow the college game enough to really know what you're talking about. Martellus Bennett was not an unknown commodity IN THE LEAST.

It's funny hearing you talk like he is, though.
Admit it, this third pick for a TE is just plain inexplicable, if not dumb.
Funny how despite your rants against the pick, you still haven't given ONE name of a player who would have been 1) better value for us at 61, and 2) could play anywhere near the same amount of snaps as Bennett will for our offense, even in his backup role.
And if we had drafted a WR, yes, Einstein, he'd be a rookie. But if you expend a third pick on a WR then maybe he will be an impact player.
So you believe that a WR taken at pick 61 (in the weakest draft for WRs in recent memory) can be an impact player, but a TE at the same spot CAN'T be.

Congrats. This is just about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying a LOT.

Antonio Gates was undrafted.

Alge Crumpler was a 2nd round pick.

Jason Witten was a 3rd round pick.

Chris Cooley was a 3rd round pick.

Owen Daniels was a 4th round pick.

Randy McMichael was a 4th round pick.
 
Nav22;2059887 said:
Admit it. You don't follow the college game enough to really know what you're talking about. Martellus Bennett was not an unknown commodity IN THE LEAST.

It's funny hearing you talk like he is, though.Funny how despite your rants against the pick, you still haven't given ONE name of a player who would have been 1) better value for us at 61, and 2) could play anywhere near the same amount of snaps as Bennett will for our offense, even in his backup role.So you believe that a WR taken at pick 61 (in the weakest draft for WRs in recent memory) can be an impact player, but a TE at the same spot CAN'T be.

Congrats. This is just about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying a LOT.

Antonio Gates was undrafted.

Alge Crumpler was a 2nd round pick.

Jason Witten was a 3rd round pick.

Chris Cooley was a 3rd round pick.

Owen Daniels was a 4th round pick.

Randy McMichael was a 4th round pick.

Yes, I did not follow the ...Aggies like you did. Otherwise I'd known that A&M was run first and pass last.
And TE was not the only receiver as you would have us believe.
For you to not comprehend is a pity. No one said you'd find a better WR. There are other needs, took, unless you have not heard, Edwin.

But unless you don't follow the game enough to know, TE was NOT a priority to the Cowboys IMHO, if I may have an opinion.

To pick a Martellus, no matter what his skills are or will be, is going on a tangent. Backers of this trade will say: best player available. That is a copout.
Best players available don't necessarily fit the needs of a team, just one position that may be adequate or overstocked.

And here is the DUMBEST THING SAID AWARD -- to you.
For you to go from "why can't a TE be impact and a WR can?"
Still, I go back to my premise that you don't comprehend.
TE was not a must-need position, that high at least.
If you jump on the PBA bandwagon you are making lime-aid out of a lime and slipping on the metaphorical lemon as you walk out like you know better than the rest.

Give it a rest and comprehend, Edwin.
 

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