Tell us, Martellus, why Jerra chose you with our precious 3rd pick

[BouncingCheese]

Martellus is a better blocker already than Fasano is and ever will be, that is for certain. But I don't agree with drafting a BLOCKING tight end, even if he can catch, in the second round when we don't really have a dire need for a TE on this team. I think that you do not draft a blocking TE on day one simple as that.

 

[Nav22]

TE was not a must-need position, that high at least.

And yet, you still have not named ONE player who would have been a better value for us at 61.

What were our "must-need" positions that you speak of, if TE was not one of them?

What player available at 61 fits this "must-need" position, and would be playing more significant snaps for us in 2008 than Martellus Bennett?

Your opinion that TE was not a priority is worthless unless you can come up with a better alternative. Which you clearly can't do, since this is like my 4th time asking.

 

[Ender]

I dont understand why ever one is so mad about this pick. Fasano isnt that good of a TE in the first place, 28 receptions and one TD in two years. Why is every one so mad that he is gone. We had 13 probowlers, all we can do is draft dept. What im thinking about is lining up in the redzone with a two TE formation with a guy like Bennet and Witten. WOW, thats unstopable. Especially with Bennets Leaping ability.

 

[jjktkk]

When you hear BPA, it means exactly that. Picking another player other than BPA, is a reach, which you obviously don't want to do. Now in later rounds you can reach for a certain player, but the risk is less damaging, since most of the late rounds picks are hit or miss anyway. Bennett was a good value pick and a need since the Cowboys traded Fasano. Don't see why there is so many of you hating the Cowboys over this pick, especially when you don't even suggest one player the Cowboys should of drafted at 61 instead of Bennett.

 

[AdamJT13]

At 4.68 in the 40 its not likely that Bennett will take anything 75 yds ever.

Who cares? Witten ran a 4.69 and has never taken anything more than 53 yards.

 

[Nav22]

Who cares? Witten ran a 4.69 and has never taken anything more than 53 yards.

And that play only happened because the Eagles failed to wrap up on first contact.

 

[Doomsday]

The 2nd TE in our offense played 44% of the snaps last year or whatever the figure was that Adam gave.

Exactly! Fasano was never the threat in the passing game that they were looking for. Bennett and Felix Jones give Dallas a lot of options and Garrett should be able to come up with a lot of different looks to throw at defenses.

How many teams can bring in 2 TEs and go with an empty back field? NE has been masterful at it the last few years. Bennett is athletic enough to beat LBs something Fasano couldnt do too often and he is a solid run blocker.

 

[BouncingCheese]

And yet, you still have not named ONE player who would have been a better value for us at 61.

What were our "must-need" positions that you speak of, if TE was not one of them?

What player available at 61 fits this "must-need" position, and would be playing more significant snaps for us in 2008 than Martellus Bennett?

Your opinion that TE was not a priority is worthless unless you can come up with a better alternative. Which you clearly can't do, since this is like my 4th time asking.

If that is true that Jerry didn't feel that we had any other glaring needs or positions that we needed to draft for (which I actually agree with I honestly don't think we had a must draft need at the 2nd round worth that high a selection) then why did we even DRAFT a player there? Like I have been saying all along since we picked him, teams shouldn't draft a BLOCKING TE in the second round, not when he is probably going to be available later for us to pick if we really wanted him, needless to say he is not worth a second round pick!

Look at Bubba Franks, he was picked in the 1st round by Green Bay a few years back. He is/was a good blocker, slow, and a big target in the endzone. He reminds me of Bennet in that regard. So maybe by that comparison we could have done worse and did what they did. But the Giants drafted Boss last year in the later rounds and he was pretty servicable for them when Shockey went down wasn't he? Tony Curtis isn't such a bad player that we NEEDED to draft another TE, especially that high and when Witten is your starter.

 

[Nav22]

His 40 time was the same as Jason Witten's. He had 587 yards receiving last year in 12 games last season, which would project to 783 in a 16 game season. He's 6'6" and is a former college basketball player, like Gonzalez and Gates were. And he has been called the most complete TE in the draft.

Those are the facts. They paint a much different picture than the one of the slow, plodding, "blocking TE" who can't impact the passing game.

then why did we even DRAFT a player there?

Um... in case you haven't noticed, Jerry doesn't exactly shy away from draft-day trades.

So if he didn't like the value there, or felt that we could get Bennett at a much later spot... don't you think he would've tried to trade down?

And even if he did try to trade DOWN, you do realize it takes another team wanting to pay a price to trade UP to our spot, right?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not seeing the logic behind this question of yours...

Tony Curtis isn't such a bad player that we NEEDED to draft another TE

Once again...

Bennett will play a significant number of snaps on offense for the Cowboys next year. He won't just be a bench-warming Special Teams guy who doesn't see any real offensive snaps. We go 2-TE quite a bit in Garrett's system, so you'll see plenty of Bennett on offense.

That role would have gone to Tony Curtis otherwise. Bennett, by all accounts, is a much better prospect than Curtis, and could potentially help us much more than Fasano could in that role last year.

There is really no other player we could have taken at 61 who could match 1) Bennett's value, and 2) the impact Bennett will have being our #2 TE next year.

If you can think of one, please give a name. I know you're not a moron like GimmeTheBall, who will bash the pick but never give ONE alternative that would've made more sense for us.

In a previous post in this thread, AdamJT breaks down how many snaps Anthony Fasano saw on offense last year. IT IS MORE THAN YOU'D THINK. Bennett will be a significant player for us next year... nice pick.

 

[DallasEast]

Who cares? Witten ran a 4.69 and has never taken anything more than 53 yards.

This thread could have stopped right here. The haymakers which Adam throws out on this forum sometimes are KO worthy.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think people are under estimating Bennett ability in the passing game.

 

[CATCH17]

The only problem you can have with this pick is its a TE.

Personally I wouldn't have traded away Fasano for a 4th but thats just me.

We did so Bennett was the pick. He has tremendous upside.

I was here on draft day when a lot of you guys were so angry that we drafted Witten over Lee Suggs.

Dallas usually ends up getting the best player and thats the most important thing.

I understand you guys arent happy with the pick but our team believes strongly in TE's so its something we better get used to.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Like many, I'm a little leery of this pick, but obviously something was up with the WR crop this year--none went in the first round, after all, and some of the better guys had injury, character, or productivity issues. One thing that Bennett brings to the table is that he can be split out--he has good speed for his size (sub 4.7 at 260 pounds is pretty impressive), and like Antonio Gates is a very agile, athletic guy with basketball background. And you can't teach height; 6-7 makes him a serious red-zone option. After two seasons, Fasano showed nothing special: adequate blocker, adequate receiver, but no flashes of special ability. Bennett looks to have more talent and upside.

While I'd like to see the Boys address the WR position, I'm not sure this year's draft was the best place to do it. Maybe Boldin, Williams, or Johnson will be available down the line. I'm not comfortable with Crayton as the #2 wideout, but let's be honest, offense wasn't the real problem for the Boys this year. The secondary problems seem to have been ably addressed, although I wonder if these new guys will have much of an impact if Roy Williams remains in the lineup. Love the guy, but he can't cover anybody.

Here's another topic: if you pick up another running back in the 4th, aren't you saying that you aren't sure that Marion Barber may be around? And if that's the case, wouldn't Rashard Mendenhall have been a safer pick than Felix Jones? To me, if you intend to keep Barber, period, Jones is the better pick--more explosive than Mendenhall, better kick returner. But if you think Barber might go, are you comfortable with little Felix Jones as your starter? Don't get me wrong, I like Jones a lot, and I love Barber, but Mendenhall seems like he's capable of being more of a workhorse back. Tashard Choice seems like a poor man's Barber to me.

I thought the same thing, at first about the RB situation. Then I realized that Alonzo Coleman is our only RB other than Barber. They let both JJ & Tyson Thompson leave, creating a need for another RB. Personally, I would have waited & taken one in FA, but then, if Barber were to go down, Choice would be a better fill-in than any RB UDFA.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

At first I was livid about this pick. Then, the more I listened & read up on Bennett, the more value I saw in the pick.

What I liked most about the tape that was shown was that he was used mostly as a blocking TE. Blocking is the hardest thing to teach a receiver if they are not used to it. This guy can both block & looks to be a natural pass catcher.

At 6'7", he'll be a great asset near the goal line. He will also make another large safety valve for Romo. QBs love guys Bennett's size. They're kinda hard to miss...haha.

I really had a harder time with trading the #92 pick with Andre Caldwell still available. At the Combine, the guy was at or near the top of most of the WR drills, he has great hands, and he ran a 4.31 40. Caldwell holds a few Florida all-time records, & is a solid blocker for his size. I know he wouldn't have played much this year, but, being a little bigger & faster than Terry Glenn, he might have replaced him in a couple of years.

 

[Doomsday101]

At first I was livid about this pick. Then, the more I listened & read up on Bennett, the more value I saw in the pick.

What I liked most about the tape that was shown was that he was used mostly as a blocking TE. Blocking is the hardest thing to teach a receiver if they are not used to it. This guy can both block & looks to be a natural pass catcher.

At 6'7", he'll be a great asset near the goal line. He will also make another large safety valve for Romo. QBs love guys Bennett's size. They're kinda hard to miss...haha.

I really had a harder time with trading the #92 pick with Andre Caldwell still available. At the Combine, the guy was at or near the top of most of the WR drills, he has great hands, and he ran a 4.31 40. Caldwell holds a few Florida all-time records, & is a solid blocker for his size. I know he wouldn't have played much this year, but, being a little bigger & faster than Terry Glenn, he might have replaced him in a couple of years.

Being a former Texas A&M basketball player does not hurt either as he shows great body control and can go up and get the ball at it's high point.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Bennett will play a significant number of snaps on offense for the Cowboys next year. He won't just be a bench-warming Special Teams guy who doesn't see any real offensive snaps. We go 2-TE quite a bit in Garrett's system, so you'll see plenty of Bennett on offense.

Must be nice to be so self-assured that you just know how much playing time rookies will get.
I wish you could have advised me all last season who would play and who would see limited time and who would warm the bench.

You must be the new assistant coach to be so sure how many snaps Bennett will take. I am soooooooo impressed.
:laugh2:

And, Mr. Arrogant is Thy Name, sorry to have dared to question a draft pick. I don't know what came over me.
Ask for alternatives, I had my ideas but that is moot, isn't it? Isn't it???
You on the other hand have the alternatives and can hold forth and hold court on all things that the "casual" fan cannot grasp.

Jerra, you need NAV!!! He even knows how much playing time your rookies will get!


Settle down, NAV, you are on an arrogant/know it all binge and it is quite unbecoming. Even for yew.

 

[Jaxonsdaddd]

This thread is ridiculous...

Fasano sucks, plain and simple. What happens when you have players that arent very good??? You draft there replacement, that is what you do. You dont stick with someone just because you drafted them in a certain round...

Its funny how to diminish the pick he is repeatedly called a "backup" when thats not really true. He is no more a backup than Felix Jones will be a backup. He will play alot, if you want to see what a true backup is then see Doug Free this year or James Marten.

This crop of WR's this year was as bad as I can remember seeing and yet people still wanted to use a valuable pick on a bum wideout instead of a really good #2 tight end.

 

[Nav22]

Must be nice to be so self-assured that you just know how much playing time rookies will get.

Nobody KNOWS FOR CERTAIN how much anybody will play, you clown. But it's the same offensive system we had in place last year under Jason Garrett. Anthony Fasano's role now belongs to Martellus Bennett, assuming he beats out Curtis for the backup role. We didn't draft him to be our 3rd TE this year, and Jerry said as much himself. He even mentioned Bennett when asked about "wow players" who could spark our offense.

Doesn't take a know-it-all to put 2 and 2 together.

Ask for alternatives, I had my ideas but that is moot, isn't it? Isn't it???

I'm sure these secret "ideas" you had (that you can't divulge now for some odd reason) were as stupid and irrational as you are.

Don't respond. I feel dumber each time I read one of your posts.

 

[speedkilz88]

I just figured out that gimmetheball is Skip Bayless.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Nobody KNOWS FOR CERTAIN how much anybody will play, you clown.
Don't respond.

I feel dumber each time I read one of your posts.

And I quote from the all-seeing, all-knowing NAV who states and then backs down: Bennett will play a significant number of snaps on offense for the Cowboys next year. He won't just be a bench-warming Special Teams guy who doesn't see any real offensive snaps.

Well, which is it? You know or don't know and were just throwing these lines around for the benefit of the great unwashed?

As for feeling dumber, you been reading and responding and preaching from your lofty perch all weekend. So in all these post you read from me you must be on an IQ level of . . . of Adam Jones by now.
And your mounting level of venom and your many tirades indicate that.:laugh2: