Terrell Davis, Coach Mora, and Michael Lombardi on Dallas

[LarryCanadian]

tonight on NFL Total Access:

Mora said change the personell on team to make it more of a team instead of a bunch of talented players. He suggested cutting ties with PacMan as a start and TO too.

Terrell Davis was adamant that it is time to get rid of TO.

More disappointing was Mora and Michael Lombardi down on the WR Roy Williams trade. I think Mora said he wouldn't have made the trade at the cost.

Michael Lombardi in particular (I don't know this guy, is he football smart?) talked about RW having work ethic issues in Texas and then in Detroit. Said Roy didn't know the playbook and was at fault on the interception thrown on Sunday.

This Lombardi guy said that Dallas should have learned from Galloway and then said Dallas traded for drafting TE Lafleur too (I don't think that is correct, but maybe they moved up to take him?). Lombardi suggested that Roy Williams is another headcase type guy amongst many. Dallas should have learned by now he says.

Terrell said that at least Roy has a future and that TO is pure cancer, OVER and OVER he said it, and said that RW should at least get an offseason and see how he does next season.

Was interesting debate. Nobody said 1st problem is Romo or Garrett, although they talked at length about how Garrett was called out. It was discussed, primarily by Terrell Davis how TO is keeping Romo from developing by constantly being in his ear and head about getting him the ball (something I do worry about as Romo seems to be a "pleaser" trying to keep everyone happy).

Anyway, consensus was that they should get rid of some players that aren't team guys and should build a team. I agree with that.

On offense, guys I can build a true TEAM atmosphere around seem to be:

Romo (no real option here anyway, although he seems a team guy but needs to take next step as leader)
Barber (quiet, will to win, does what he's asked)
Felix Jones (speed and youth kill!)
Choice (smart, great complement back, great attitude)
Witten (warrior)
Austin (developing)
Crayton (big talker, but decent role player)

Not sure about Roy Williams the WR yet.

Those are team guys, but you need some flash and sizzle too (Irvin had that, but was a team guy too).

Anyway, was an interesting segment, and boy did Mora and TD really want TO gone gone gone!

LarryCanadian

 

[Rampage]

tonight on NFL Total Access:

Mora said change the personell on team to make it more of a team instead of a bunch of talented players. He suggested cutting ties with PacMan as a start and TO too.

Terrell Davis was adamant that it is time to get rid of TO.

More disappointing was Mora and Michael Lombardi down on the WR Roy Williams trade. I think Mora said he wouldn't have made the trade at the cost.

Michael Lombardi in particular (I don't know this guy, is he football smart?) talked about RW having work ethic issues in Texas and then in Detroit. Said Roy didn't know the playbook and was at fault on the interception thrown on Sunday.

This Lombardi guy said that Dallas should have learned from Galloway and then said Dallas traded for drafting TE Lafleur too (I don't think that is correct, but maybe they moved up to take him?). Lombardi suggested that Roy Williams is another headcase type guy amongst many. Dallas should have learned by now he says.

Terrell said that at least Roy has a future and that TO is pure cancer, OVER and OVER he said it, and said that RW should at least get an offseason and see how he does next season.

Was interesting debate. Nobody said 1st problem is Romo or Garrett, although they talked at length about how Garrett was called out. It was discussed, primarily by Terrell Davis how TO is keeping Romo from developing by constantly being in his ear and head about getting him the ball (something I do worry about as Romo seems to be a "pleaser" trying to keep everyone happy).

Anyway, consensus was that they should get rid of some players that aren't team guys and should build a team. I agree with that.

On offense, guys I can build a true TEAM atmosphere around seem to be:

Romo (no real option here anyway, although he seems a team guy but needs to take next step as leader)
Barber (quiet, will to win, does what he's asked)
Felix Jones (speed and youth kill!)
Choice (smart, great complement back, great attitude)
Witten (warrior)
Austin (developing)
Crayton (big talker, but decent role player)

Not sure about Roy Williams the WR yet.

Those are team guys, but you need some flash and sizzle too (Irvin had that, but was a team guy too).

Anyway, was an interesting segment, and boy did Mora and TD really want TO gone gone gone!

LarryCanadian

I have said for a little while now I think Owens has stunted Romo's growth as a qb. que the T.O. defenders/fanboys.

 

[gmb85]

First you gotta get rid of the guy who hires these flashy players. Oops, no can do.

 

[Boysboy]

I have said for a little while now I think Owens has stunted Romo's growth as a qb. que the T.O. defenders/fanboys.

Look how Eli blossomed once Shockey went down. I was like...WOW! And now Plax is gone, rarely do I see him throw into double coverage anymore.

 

[RainMan]

You know the bottom line problem with it all? This team has deep problems. We're dysfunctional, egotistical, splintered and poorly coached.

The worst part is I don't think the man pulling all the strings is equipped to get us in the right direction. He likes all the dinner-table talk that surrounds this team and prefers us to have players of the T.O./Pacman mold.

I'm of the opinion this team needs major changes in both the coaching and personnel fronts. The coaching side isn't going to happen, but the personnel side can. Now, I'm primarily of the keep-T.O. school, but I don't know what other options exist? How can I want personnel changes but want to keep T.O. around?

It scares me to see what this offense might become without him. I'm genuinely afraid he's the key cog. But I also was afraid he'd eventually take down the franchise when we got him, but was a proponent of the move because I figured we were heading down a dark path and it was a risk worth taking. I think we're heading down a similarly dark path now. Maybe the opposite of 2006 is a risk worth taking now.

Who knows.

 

[LarryCanadian]

Well, cutting a PacMan is a possiblility. Prying control of the Cowboys from Jerry's cold dead fingers in a few years might be a longshot hehe.

Love him or hate him, Jerry is here for a bit yet, and his son is next in line. This franchise will probably leave the Jones family after I'm dead and buried, so I wouldn't hold your breath (although I like Jerry, just don't always agree with his decisions).

LarryCanadian

 

[tyke1doe]

Countdown to T.O. apologists who start ragging on Lombardi, Mora and Davis as if they don't know what they're talking about in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

 

[Boysboy]

Countdown to T.O. apologists who start ragging on Lombardi, Mora and Davis as if they don't know what they're talking about in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

:storm:

 

[RainMan]

Well, cutting a PacMan is a possiblility. Prying control of the Cowboys from Jerry's cold dead fingers in a few years might be a longshot hehe.

Love him or hate him, Jerry is here for a bit yet, and his son is next in line. This franchise will probably leave the Jones family after I'm dead and buried, so I wouldn't hold your breath (although I like Jerry, just don't always agree with his decisions).

LarryCanadian

I do think getting rid of Pacman is a start. For starters, we're INSANE (!!!!) if we think we can rely on him staying out of trouble all offseason and throughout the duration of next year in order to be a key cog for our defense. It might have been a one-year gamble worth taking, but this is not a guy you keep around long term in my opinion.

I'm always of the give-a-guy-a-second-chance school. I love it when a trouble individual "gets it." I hoped that was the case for Pacman when we got him. But it was clear from Hard Knocks and beyond that he is still a bitter individual who doesn't get it, and I highly doubt the "you're down to your last chance" threat will make a difference. He already thought he was down to his last chance, and was still being stupid.

So, yeah, that might be a start. But is it enough? Is he a big enough figure in the locker room to make a difference? Or is the message it sends by cutting him enough alone?

 

[RainMan]

Countdown to T.O. apologists who start ragging on Lombardi, Mora and Davis as if they don't know what they're talking about in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

A few months ago, I thought this franchise had the pillars in place to have a dominant offense for the next half-decade. A Hall of Fame receiver, a Ring of Honor tight end, a potential face-of-the-league quarterback, and a bona-fide, tough-as-nails running back.

Now, at times, I can't help but wonder if any of them are worth keeping. Barber was outperformed by a fourth-round pick, our quarterback can't win the big game late in the season, the tight end reportedly might have been a snitch and T.O. is, well, what he's always been.

The good news? We have Roy Williams, so he added a new element to gradually sour on that I didn't anticipate we'd have in September.

 

[Rampage]

Countdown to T.O. apologists who start ragging on Lombardi, Mora and Davis as if they don't know what they're talking about in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

somebody get this guy some water cause he is on fire tonight!

 

[Matt]

tonight on NFL Total Access:

Mora said change the personell on team to make it more of a team instead of a bunch of talented players. He suggested cutting ties with PacMan as a start and TO too.

Terrell Davis was adamant that it is time to get rid of TO.

More disappointing was Mora and Michael Lombardi down on the WR Roy Williams trade. I think Mora said he wouldn't have made the trade at the cost.

Michael Lombardi in particular (I don't know this guy, is he football smart?) talked about RW having work ethic issues in Texas and then in Detroit. Said Roy didn't know the playbook and was at fault on the interception thrown on Sunday.

This Lombardi guy said that Dallas should have learned from Galloway and then said Dallas traded for drafting TE Lafleur too (I don't think that is correct, but maybe they moved up to take him?). Lombardi suggested that Roy Williams is another headcase type guy amongst many. Dallas should have learned by now he says.

Terrell said that at least Roy has a future and that TO is pure cancer, OVER and OVER he said it, and said that RW should at least get an offseason and see how he does next season.

Was interesting debate. Nobody said 1st problem is Romo or Garrett, although they talked at length about how Garrett was called out. It was discussed, primarily by Terrell Davis how TO is keeping Romo from developing by constantly being in his ear and head about getting him the ball (something I do worry about as Romo seems to be a "pleaser" trying to keep everyone happy).

Anyway, consensus was that they should get rid of some players that aren't team guys and should build a team. I agree with that.

On offense, guys I can build a true TEAM atmosphere around seem to be:

Romo (no real option here anyway, although he seems a team guy but needs to take next step as leader)
Barber (quiet, will to win, does what he's asked)
Felix Jones (speed and youth kill!)
Choice (smart, great complement back, great attitude)
Witten (warrior)
Austin (developing)
Crayton (big talker, but decent role player)

Not sure about Roy Williams the WR yet.

Those are team guys, but you need some flash and sizzle too (Irvin had that, but was a team guy too).

Anyway, was an interesting segment, and boy did Mora and TD really want TO gone gone gone!

LarryCanadian

What big name WR with a work ethic like TO did TD and Mora coach/play for?
TD just has no clue... TO constantly requires double teams, he has been emotional but a cancer? LOL. Mora, shut up, all that comes to mind when I hear your name is "Playoffs"?

 

[tyke1doe]

What big name WR with a work ethic like TO did TD and Mora coach/play for?
TD just has no clue... TO constantly requires double teams, he has been emotional but a cancer? LOL. Mora, shut up, all that comes to mind when I hear your name is "Playoffs"?

LOL! On cue.

Uh, Terrell Davis had Rod Smith, who was a very good wide receiver with a tremendous work ethic.

Oh, and Mora coached a big name WR with a work ethic. You might have heard of him. His name is ... Marvin Harrison.

So I think both of them know a bit about team chemistry and receivers with great work ethic.

 

[RainMan]

What big name WR with a work ethic like TO did TD and Mora coach/play for?
TD just has no clue... TO constantly requires double teams, he has been emotional but a cancer? LOL. Mora, shut up, all that comes to mind when I hear your name is "Playoffs"?

Honestly, Terrell Davis and Jim Mora have more credibility accrued than anything this team has put together. I have a hard time just dismissing their thoughts and constantly siding with our players -- you know, those guys who can't win a big game and were seen laughing all the way home after what should have been an emotionally devastating evening.

 

[avaj]

Oh, and Mora coached a big name WR with a work ethic. You might have heard of him. His name is ... Marvin Harrison.

#2 in league after Jerry Rice in catches

 

[Boysboy]

LOL! On cue.

Uh, Terrell Davis had Rod Smith, who was a very good wide receiver with a tremendous work ethic.

Oh, and Mora coached a big name WR with a work ethic. You might have heard of him. His name is ... Marvin Harrison.

So I think both of them know a bit about team chemistry and receivers with great work ethic.

So was it TO's fault that the players, by and large, were laughing on the plane after the game?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It would be nice if someone in the media actually had an original thought. When all else fails, blame TO, call him a cancer and say we would be better off without him.

Maybe someone can tell me how better the 49ers and Eagles are without TO than they were with him.

 

[RoadRunner]

There is a real good chance head cases like Tank Johnson and Pacman are history some time before the draft. Neither TO or RW11 are going anywhere though. I just can't see Jones letting them go.

 

[Boysboy]

There is a real good chance head cases like Tank Johnson and Pacman are history some time before the draft. Neither TO or RW11 are going anywhere though. I just can't see Jones letting them go.

Tank is a UFA-he'll prolly be a Commander in March.

 

[alancdc]

I have said for a little while now I think Owens has stunted Romo's growth as a qb. que the T.O. defenders/fanboys.

I agree as well. I watched some of the GB game the other day and he was hitting Austin and progressing to his 3rd reads. Crayton used to catch so many 3rd down passes, but he doesn't even get many looks now. Again, this could be because our o line is so bad, but if that is the case this goes back to Garrett as well, IMO. STOP running TO and RW on fly patters and start running TO on crossing routs or slants. Fact is they were talking about us not having any "hot" routs for when teams blitz. I think it was Deion who was saying that it isn't the first time we have played Phily and nothing should surprise us. No adjustments with "hot" routs on blitzes. Is that Romo not calling audibles or Garrett not knowing what the #&$&@#&( is going on?