Test results: Johnson's blood alcohol level was .072

[iceberg]

If you're staying out till 3 drinking and suddenly find yourself without a sober ride home, then maybe you should have thought ahead. There is no excuse, I repeat no excuse to be on the road endangering other's lives just because you weren't responsable enough to think of a way to get home!

who can look for a ride home with all this ginger/mary ann debate going on?

 

[adamknite]

who can look for a ride home with all this ginger/mary ann debate going on?

:laugh2: I say Ginger ******.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

what is amazing is how many episodes of gilligans island they did and no one ever got caught making out. i'm also not sure the skipper was referring to gilligan all the time when he talked about his "little buddy".

by and large i'd have to say mary ann also. but then again i preferred baily in wkrp in cincy as well.

brainpaint - in wkrp - jennifer or bailey? bailey here.

What, are you an idiot? Bailey, not question.

 

[iceberg]

What, are you an idiot? Bailey, not question.

since i picked bailey before the idiot commentary, i would suppose not utnil a jennifer fan comes along then i'm an idiot for picking bailey.

 

[DallasEast]

Leave the drinking to robots! Pathetic humans!​

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

since i picked bailey before the idiot commentary, i would suppose not utnil a jennifer fan comes along then i'm an idiot for picking bailey.

:laugh2:

True, true. You got me.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

what is amazing is how many episodes of gilligans island they did and no one ever got caught making out. i'm also not sure the skipper was referring to gilligan all the time when he talked about his "little buddy".

by and large i'd have to say mary ann also. but then again i preferred baily in wkrp in cincy as well.

brainpaint - in wkrp - jennifer or bailey? bailey here.

Neither Jennifer or Bailey did much for me. One looked to much like a reformed hippy chick and the other looked too fake.

Give me Barbara Eden and her Evil Sister from I dream of Jeannie.

 

[Hoov]

If you're staying out till 3 drinking and suddenly find yourself without a sober ride home, then maybe you should have thought ahead. There is no excuse, I repeat no excuse to be on the road endangering other's lives just because you weren't responsable enough to think of a way to get home!

maybe if the thought enters your head that you might not be able to get home you should order a CocaCola instead of a beer, more refreashing.... less dangerous.

Sure, when you put it like that. And its true that many people get tanked like that 3 or more nights a week and repeatedly drive home and that is absurd.

But there is a stigma that everyone who has a DUI on record is an alcoholic with criminal intent and a lowlife. In reality there are many DUI's that occur when someone is driving after a few drinks on a dinner date or social affair which is a completely different scenario from the one you are describing.

 

[AdamJT13]

But there is a stigma that everyone who has a DUI on record is an alcoholic with criminal intent and a lowlife.

Alcoholic? Not necessarily.

Criminal intent? Not likely.

Lowlife? Definitely, at least at that moment.

 

[Hoov]

Alcoholic? Not necessarily.

Criminal intent? Not likely.

Lowlife? Definitely, at least at that moment.

I'll have to disagree there. plenty of decent people have a drink at business dinners or at a social function and drive not even knowing they are over the limit. it takes very little to put someone over the .08 limit. i weigh 163 lbs, 2 beers and i am DUI.

How about the guy that is home after work and has 2 drinks or has 2 drinks on a saturday afternoon, when his wife tells him run to the wawa down the road and pick up this or that. He gets pulled over for failing to use a turn signal with a cop across the street, he felt fine and didnt realize he was anywhere near .08 but now everyone will think he has a serious drinking problem and what is wrong with him, endangering others. When in his mind it was a simple trip to the wawa less than a mile to get some cigareetes or something and he didnt even start to feel the effects of the 2 beers he just drank in the past hour. Sometimes its just not being aware.

 

[AdamJT13]

I'll have to disagree there. plenty of decent people have a drink at business dinners or at a social function and drive not even knowing they are over the limit. it takes very little to put someone over the .08 limit. i weigh 163 lbs, 2 beers and i am DUI.

How about the guy that is home after work and has 2 drinks or has 2 drinks on a saturday afternoon, when his wife tells him run to the wawa down the road and pick up this or that. He gets pulled over for failing to use a turn signal with a cop across the street, he felt fine and didnt realize he was anywhere near .08 but now everyone will think he has a serious drinking problem and what is wrong with him, endangering others. When in his mind it was a simple trip to the wawa less than a mile to get some cigareetes or something and he didnt even start to feel the effects of the 2 beers he just drank in the past hour. Sometimes its just not being aware.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for anyone who drinks and drives for any reason.

 

[Hostile]

I'll have to disagree there. plenty of decent people have a drink at business dinners or at a social function and drive not even knowing they are over the limit. it takes very little to put someone over the .08 limit. i weigh 163 lbs, 2 beers and i am DUI.

How about the guy that is home after work and has 2 drinks or has 2 drinks on a saturday afternoon, when his wife tells him run to the wawa down the road and pick up this or that. He gets pulled over for failing to use a turn signal with a cop across the street, he felt fine and didnt realize he was anywhere near .08 but now everyone will think he has a serious drinking problem and what is wrong with him, endangering others. When in his mind it was a simple trip to the wawa less than a mile to get some cigareetes or something and he didnt even start to feel the effects of the 2 beers he just drank in the past hour. Sometimes its just not being aware.

I'm not trying to push the envelope here, but this falls under the "I've done it, so it isn't that bad category." There is a part of me that understands this.

The bottom line is and always will be, if you're going to drink or have had something to drink, don't drive.

The person who does what you describe above isn't a lowlife simply because nothing happened. All of that changes when something does happen. Tell me truthfully, if someone killed your child and the BAC registered .068 (pretty well below the limit) aren't you still going to wonder what that person was doing behind the wheel?

Not driving after you've had drinks is the only moral and ethical answer. Nothing from the store is worth the risk. I wish people did not go to bars to drink. I really do. I prefer they go home FOR THE NIGHT and have their drinks where they can't possibly hurt someone. I have yet to figure out how to stop someone from leaving someone's house after drinking other than the taxi rule. I wish people would abide by this.

It simply isn't worth the risk. Now, have people driven and not hurt someone? Sure. It happens constantly and I'm not naive. I understand what Adam is saying though. At that moment...you have to wonder. You can object to the word low life, choose another word, or simply choose to be offended by it. I don't think any of that changes the fact that if someone has been drinking they should not get behind the wheel.

 

[burmafrd]

according to abersonce its not a problem as long as you are under the limit.

 

[iceberg]

according to abersonce its not a problem as long as you are under the limit.

according to some, stopping by the bar for a beer or two on the way home is "wrong".

know your limits and know when you're effected. if you pass that, don't drive.

it's not rocket science people.

 

[superpunk]

according to abersonce its not a problem as long as you are under the limit.

Yes.

According to abersonc.

And the law.

 

[AdamJT13]

know your limits and know when you're effected. if you pass that, don't drive.

How many people are able to make that judgement after they've been drinking?

I'm guessing quite a few people have driven drunk and killed someone -- maybe even themselves -- after thinking they were OK to drive.

And I'm guessing even more people who didn't crash have driven while impaired after thinking they were OK. Scientific studies have shown that it doesn't take much to be impaired. But everyone thinks they're OK -- especially when their judgement is impaired.

 

[iceberg]

How many people are able to make that judgement after they've been drinking?

I'm guessing quite a few people have driven drunk and killed someone -- maybe even themselves -- after thinking they were OK to drive.

And I'm guessing even more people who didn't crash have driven while impaired after thinking they were OK. Scientific studies have shown that it doesn't take much to be impaired. But everyone thinks they're OK -- especially when their judgement is impaired.

they set a limit for a reason. i'm not gonna argue morality or ethics, or whatever cause i think it's butt-nugget stupid to argue about.

no one wins this argument.

be responsible or pay the price.

 

[Hoov]

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for anyone who drinks and drives for any reason.

Not expecting sympathy, nor would i want it.

I do object to the term lowlife, nevertheless, i myself do not drink and drive any longer so i guess the rehabilatative program and punishment was successful in my case.

 

[AdamJT13]

they set a limit for a reason.

That's correct, and "not knowing you're over the limit" or just driving "to the wawa less than a mile to get some cigareetes" or "not starting to feel the effects" are no excuses for violating the law and putting lives at risk.

 

[Hoov]

I'm not trying to push the envelope here, but this falls under the "I've done it, so it isn't that bad category." There is a part of me that understands this.

The bottom line is and always will be, if you're going to drink or have had something to drink, don't drive.

The person who does what you describe above isn't a lowlife simply because nothing happened. All of that changes when something does happen. Tell me truthfully, if someone killed your child and the BAC registered .068 (pretty well below the limit) aren't you still going to wonder what that person was doing behind the wheel?

Not driving after you've had drinks is the only moral and ethical answer. Nothing from the store is worth the risk. I wish people did not go to bars to drink. I really do. I prefer they go home FOR THE NIGHT and have their drinks where they can't possibly hurt someone. I have yet to figure out how to stop someone from leaving someone's house after drinking other than the taxi rule. I wish people would abide by this.

It simply isn't worth the risk. Now, have people driven and not hurt someone? Sure. It happens constantly and I'm not naive. I understand what Adam is saying though. At that moment...you have to wonder. You can object to the word low life, choose another word, or simply choose to be offended by it. I don't think any of that changes the fact that if someone has been drinking they should not get behind the wheel.

good insight, you may be right as to me not getting as bent as some here because i have done it myself. actually before the last DUI which was about 5 years ago, i was the type to give up my keys all the time with no arguement. In fact the night of my DUI a friend had agreed to drive my car so i started drinking at a concert and he bailed in the middle of the show, it was like an hour ride back home so i thought about calling a cab but decided i could wait it out in the parking lot and sober up.

As far as drinking at bars, well if you are single and at home alone - that is no fun. I'll tell you what would be an answer, if bars and clubs were forced to provide a shuttle bus for a small fee and make a safe ride home available, that would cut down on some of the offences.

I mean, with the limit as low as it is, almost everyone siitting in any bar is close or over the limit. and what do waiters and bartenders do ? they push another drink to increase their tip. Can you honestly imagine that people will go to the bar and not drink, people who do not like to drink generally hate bars and find the atmosphere boring.

so as long as bars and clubs serve alcohol, people who go there will drink and most likely drink more than the legal limit.....and all these people have to get home somehow.