Texas law overrides NFL policy banning armed off-duty officers at games

[TNCowboy]

The rest of us are not Officers of the Law. The rest of us are not required to intercede in a situation if the Law is being broken.

Jerry, Kramer, George and Elaine would beg to differ with you.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jerry, Kramer, George and Elaine would beg to differ with you.

Yes, that is probably true. Would that we could all be Jerry, Kramer, George or Elaine right?

Alas, we can not.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Your righ,t its not ------but that is going on the assumption that the only ones with deadly weapons are the off duty cops.. A knife in the pocket , a car tool in the parking lot can kill you just as fast ----Make it impossible for officers to carry and a placeknown to be gun free and see where the next mass shooting is....Or live in a perfect world where people don't throw snowballs with rocks in them.

Bingo!!!!! We have a winner!!!!!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

The on duty officers cannot drink for starters, and they can take care of any situation should it arise. No good thing can come to bringing a gun to the stands, even if you are an off duty officer. Just leave your gun in your car, nobody in the history of organized professional sports has ever needed a gun in a stadium.

especially if a fight occurs and the cop loses the gun to another who decides to use it, yes you could take the gun from a uniformed cop but still at least they are there to work, not watch the game

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Has anyone read this Texas law that states off duty have to pack heat? The written aspect of the story states that it is Houston PD policy but not that it is Texas law. I didn't watch the video.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Has anyone read this Texas law that states off duty have to pack heat? The written aspect of the story states that it is Houston PD policy but not that it is Texas law. I didn't watch the video.

It is Texas State Law. You can Google it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Texas Law Trumps NFL Policy Prohibiting Armed Off Duty Officers In Stadiums

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - The National Football League has implemented a new stadium policy that would ban off-duty police officers from carrying guns into games…except in the state of Texas.

“Our officers are 24/7, on or off duty, and if they run into a critical incident – they are required to take action” says Pinkston. “Our officers will be allowed to carry their weapon into AT&T Stadium and other football stadiums in the State of Texas due to Texas law.”

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/10/...hibiting-armed-off-duty-officers-in-stadiums/

That didn't take long....

 

[justbob]

Texas Law Trumps NFL Policy Prohibiting Armed Off Duty Officers In Stadiums

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - The National Football League has implemented a new stadium policy that would ban off-duty police officers from carrying guns into games…except in the state of Texas.

“Our officers are 24/7, on or off duty, and if they run into a critical incident – they are required to take action” says Pinkston. “Our officers will be allowed to carry their weapon into AT&T Stadium and other football stadiums in the State of Texas due to Texas law.”

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/10/...hibiting-armed-off-duty-officers-in-stadiums/

That didn't take long....

Tried to tell ya'll

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Tried to tell ya'll

Yep. This will fall in other States as well because there are other States where Officers are required to carry Firearms and respond to criminal activities, on or off duty. NFL has almost zero chance of making this stand up IMO.

 

[justbob]

Yep. This will fall in other States as well because there are other States where Officers are required to carry Firearms and respond to criminal activities, on or off duty. NFL has almost zero chance of making this stand up IMO.

I like the last line of the article that the security people should be enough..That's really funny and would really take an out of touch with reality person to say that....

.That being said : Thanks to everyone that kept this a good debate with out going over the political line. And thanks for the additional input from the sworn officers on here and here are prayers for your safety each and every day.

 

[jobberone]

especially if a fight occurs and the cop loses the gun to another who decides to use it, yes you could take the gun from a uniformed cop but still at least they are there to work, not watch the game

It is very rare for an officer of the law on or off duty to lose his gun and esp to have it taken from him. A rogue black hole could devour the earth, too. Both are examples of being many standard deviations from the mean.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It is Texas State Law. You can Google it.

I'm not interested enough to spend time reading a law.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It is very rare for an officer of the law on or off duty to lose his gun and esp to have it taken from him. A rogue black hole could devour the earth, too. Both are examples of being many standard deviations from the mean.

you don't know how rare it is anymore than I do especially in the circumstances of a stadium scenario when you are in a fight with other drunken fans

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm not interested enough to spend time reading a law.

Fortunately, this issue has already been settled. Link is posted above.

 

[jobberone]

Has anyone read this Texas law that states off duty have to pack heat? The written aspect of the story states that it is Houston PD policy but not that it is Texas law. I didn't watch the video.

Most off duty officers are required by either law to carry either their service weapon or a weapon on them at all times or by departmental policy. I'm almost positive this extends to the FBI and Federal Marshals. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act allows active and retired officers to carry anywhere in the US with some restrictions.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

you don't know how rare it is anymore than I do especially in the circumstances of a stadium scenario when you are in a fight with other drunken fans

Do you think that might be because you are not interested enough to read up on the subject?

 

[speedkilz88]

Jerry, Kramer, George and Elaine would beg to differ with you.

The Seinfeld show actually took liberties with (I believe Maryland) law. They would have never been arrested (or convicted) in real life.

 

[Kevinicus]

So Texas law requires you to be armed even if you've been drinking? And further, to take action in some instances?

 

[jobberone]

you don't know how rare it is anymore than I do especially in the circumstances of a stadium scenario when you are in a fight with other drunken fans

Oh yes I do. Perhaps if you debated with facts rather than emotional reasoning and/or an agenda you wouldn't say such stupid things.

http://www.policeone.com/close-quar...Own-Guns-Likely-Will-Not-Change-R-I-Policies/

Over a recent six-week period, a handful of officers from Rhode Island to Illinois had their guns taken from them after they allegedly were overpowered by suspects or inmates. In each case, the ending was deadly.

The incidents have shaken departments and raised questions about safety procedures. But some law enforcement experts say not much will change _ and shouldn't. Despite the latest tragedies, they say there's no evidence that basic procedure is failing officers.

"You do not write policies to deal with the extreme," said Michael Brady, an expert in police procedures in the Administration of Justice department at Salve Regina University in Newport. "The one thing the incidents do have in common is that they are a reminder of how dangerous police work is."

On March 11, a defendant on trial for rape in Atlanta allegedly overpowered a courthouse deputy, took her gun and killed four people, including two law enforcement officers. A little over a month later, a Providence detective was killed with his own weapon while interviewing a suspect at police headquarters.

Police in Augusta, Ga., killed an inmate who fled on April 21 after overpowering a state corrections officer and taking his gun, authorities said. Two days later, a man under arrest in Spring Valley, Ill., wrested away an officer's gun and beat him with it. The suspect then fatally shot himself, police said.

"It's one too many when it happens," Brady said. "But if you look nationwide, the frequency of a police officer's gun being taken by a suspect is extremely rare."

There are no national statistics on how many times officers' guns are taken away. But the FBI says that of the 616 law enforcement officers killed on duty by criminals from 1994 through 2003, 52 were killed with their own weapon, amounting to 8 percent.


Police are trained to protect their weapons if they are attacked, and to resist using their guns unless a threat is imminent. If a weapon is grabbed, the officer always tries to retrieve it and often succeeds, experts said.

 

[jobberone]

So Texas law requires you to be armed even if you've been drinking? And further, to take action in some instances?

Nope.