The 46 game day roster

[J12B]

I recently read where Sean Payton sees that the 46 game day active roster is outdated.

If the league is making player safety such a priority, how is this still a rule?

The number of players active during game day should increase to 50 players during week 13 games (or whenever all team's have had their byes).

There would only be 4 games remaining on all team's schedules and most if not all players are dealing with some sort of injury. The extra players that suit up would allow coaches more flexibility with subs if needed during the final stretch of the season.

It would also help teams going into the final game of the season with nothing to play for in assessing talent and resting starters.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Anything that makes sense, expect the Goodell led NFL, to do the opposite.

 

[Nightman]

I recently read where Sean Payton sees that the 46 game day active roster is outdated.

If the league is making player safety such a priority, how is this still a rule?

The number of players active during game day should increase to 50 players during week 13 games (or whenever all team's have had their byes).

There would only be 4 games remaining on all team's schedules and most if not all players are dealing with some sort of injury. The extra players that suit up would allow coaches more flexibility with subs if needed during the final stretch of the season.

It would also help teams going into the final game of the season with nothing to play for in assessing talent and resting starters.

I agree 100%

the whole 63 man team should dress..... if PS squad guys play other than ST they have to be added for 3 weeks minimum

 

[jazzcat22]

The NFL sees it as a competitive disadvantage. What if a team has no injuries, but another team has 6 injuries. Therefore the inactive evens it out.

If anything, they need to increase the roster to 55 or 57, then have 48 to 52 active. Or something similar.

 

[blueblood70]

I recently read where Sean Payton sees that the 46 game day active roster is outdated.

If the league is making player safety such a priority, how is this still a rule?

The number of players active during game day should increase to 50 players during week 13 games (or whenever all team's have had their byes).

There would only be 4 games remaining on all team's schedules and most if not all players are dealing with some sort of injury. The extra players that suit up would allow coaches more flexibility with subs if needed during the final stretch of the season.

It would also help teams going into the final game of the season with nothing to play for in assessing talent and resting starters.

id be happy with change just for the postseason where your last RS game you can use an expanded roster like Baseball uses IE use the entire team including Practice squad if you wanted..it would be good place to start..

Yes I agree why a team is limited to how many of their players under contract they can activate during the game is really beyond dated, it makes no sense..at least the 53 should all be able to eb activated..

 

[jazzcat22]

It is not that it is outdated. It just needs adjusted. I can still see the need for in-actives to even the game day playing field to the number of players available for each team.
Why should one team have 53 available and the other only 47 if players are injured or not.
If so then let them have PS players available on game day. Then that is too involved also.

Don't make changes just to make changes.

 

[conner01]

I’ve always thought all should be active
I get the one team having 53 and the other not
But you could fix that by pulling up PS players for a weekly spot somehow
Say by Wednesday you can deactivate a player and replace with PS player
Maybe limit the time to say two weeks or something like that

 

[AbeBeta]

I recently read where Sean Payton sees that the 46 game day active roster is outdated.

If the league is making player safety such a priority, how is this still a rule?

The number of players active during game day should increase to 50 players during week 13 games (or whenever all team's have had their byes).

There would only be 4 games remaining on all team's schedules and most if not all players are dealing with some sort of injury. The extra players that suit up would allow coaches more flexibility with subs if needed during the final stretch of the season.

It would also help teams going into the final game of the season with nothing to play for in assessing talent and resting starters.

Unless you create a real short term IR then the 53 man is needed for player safety. If your team happens to have 6 short-term injuries they you are playing with fewer guys available than a fully healthy team. Having fewer guys than the other team hurts player safety.

 

[Bobhaze]

Agree 100%. If the league was serious about player safety, the game day roster would be expanded to 53 and the overall roster would be expanded to 60.

There’s only one reason this isn’t being done: GREED.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I recently read where Sean Payton sees that the 46 game day active roster is outdated.

If the league is making player safety such a priority, how is this still a rule?

The number of players active during game day should increase to 50 players during week 13 games (or whenever all team's have had their byes).

There would only be 4 games remaining on all team's schedules and most if not all players are dealing with some sort of injury. The extra players that suit up would allow coaches more flexibility with subs if needed during the final stretch of the season.

It would also help teams going into the final game of the season with nothing to play for in assessing talent and resting starters.

Not a bad idea BUT that would mean players off the practice squad and the practice squad rules would have to change. There are 4 preseason games to evaluate talent but I suppose a few months on the PS could change that. Look at Lenoir and Tapper . Then there was what's his name who played QB/Safety on our PS for 3 years. Once they're called up off the PS and play, are they eligible for PS the next year?

 

[conner01]

Agree 100%. If the league was serious about player safety, the game day roster would be expanded to 53 and the overall roster would be expanded to 60.

There’s only one reason this isn’t being done: GREED.

The league is not the only party that determines roster size
Players could push for bigger rosters but that would mean same pit split more ways
It’s part of the cba that could be easily changed

 

[northerncowboynation]

Agree 100%. If the league was serious about player safety, the game day roster would be expanded to 53 and the overall roster would be expanded to 60.

There’s only one reason this isn’t being done: GREED.

Greed of the fan, ticket buyer and networks also. Do you really want to pay, as a season ticket holder, to watch PS players play? If you're Fox do you expect big TV audiences if the scrubs are on the field. C'mon man, if someone is gonna rattle someone else's bones I want the biggest and best doin the rattlin against the biggest and best. Hell, I don't want to see some scrawny gladiator against Simba or some scrawny lion against The Gladiator.

I don't know because I'm not a season ticket holder or network or scrawny gladiator but there is that.

 

[conner01]

Greed of the fan and ticket buyer also. Do you really want to pay, as a season ticket holder, to watch PS players play? I don't know because I'm not one but I'm guessing not

Don’t think the players playing would change much but you’d have more depth availible
Best healthy players are still gonna play if you have 46 or 53 active. You might see a PS guy on ST but wouldn’t change much other than depth

 

[conner01]

Not a bad idea BUT that would mean players off the practice squad and the practice squad rules would have to change. There are 4 preseason games to evaluate talent but I suppose a few months on the PS could change that. Look at Lenoir and Tapper . Then there was what's his name who played QB/Safety on our PS for 3 years. Once they're called up off the PS and play, are they eligible for PS the next year?

You’d have to create some structure. But the idea of calling up a PS guy would just be to keep rosters even so one team didn’t have less players than the other.there are PS rules now that could work or be altered some to work

 

[northerncowboynation]

You’d have to create some structure. But the idea of calling up a PS guy would just be to keep rosters even so one team didn’t have less players than the other.there are PS rules now that could work or be altered some to work

I suppose we do carry inactive players on the 53, some like Lee who are injured or rehabbing, so there is that pool on top of the PS guys making 60. It seems to me that teams have lots of reserve to pull from. Adding someone could mean someone going to IR or cut outright. To me, there are a ton of rules that need to change to increase to 50 including IR and salary structures. Increasing to 50 is not going to reduce injuries. Yes, putting them back on the field when they aren't ready could exacerbate it. Payton is in the cat birds seat on this one, his team has clinched.

 

[conner01]

I suppose we do carry inactive players on the 53, some like Lee who are injured or rehabbing, so there is that pool on top of the PS guys making 60. It seems to me that teams have lots of reserve to pull from. Adding someone could me someone going to IRor cut outright. To me, there are a ton of rules that need to change to increase to 50 including IR and salary structures. Increasing to 50 is not going to reduce injuries. Yes, putting them back on the field when they aren't ready could exacerbate it. Payton is in the cat birds seat on this one, his team has clinched.

I don’t see how increasing active players has much to do with injuries but as you said makes it easier to keep a guy out who’s injured
It also allows a couple more guys to get some game reps and would help with depth for in game injuries

 

[ESisback]

Anything that makes sense, expect the Goodell led NFL, to do the opposite.

Agreed, although IMO, what makes sense to THEM, not the fans. That means they’ll do whatever maximizes the profit margins.

 

[northerncowboynation]

The problem is the nagging injuries like high ankle sprains, hamstrings and groins where a team has to make a decision between IR and losing the player for 7 games or keeping them on the 53. Then there are concussions. Irving is a perfect example of a player we debated putting on IR.

Baseball went to a 10 day DL from 20 where the player is evaluated after 10 days. 10 days isn't much in a football life but it's 5-6 games in the life of a baseball position player or two starts for a pitcher.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I don’t see how increasing active players has much to do with injuries but as you said makes it easier to keep a guy out who’s injured
It also allows a couple more guys to get some game reps and would help with depth for in game injuries

Agreed. it has nothing to do with injuries. Problems arise with injured players where the team says IR or inactive and could be back in less than 6-7 games. Some of the injuries are no-brainers for IR, some aren't. The team and trainers are responsible for putting the player back out there or not. There is a CBA to protect players despite the GREED of the league and owners. Yes the rules need to change somewhat especially the IR rules. We carry 46 for in game injuries and depth. I suppose 4 more wouldn't hurt

 

[northerncowboynation]

Agreed, although IMO, what makes sense to THEM, not the fans. That means they’ll do whatever maximizes the profit margins.

And fans are greedy, want their teams to win. Networks are greedy and want a big TV audience. Greed is not something confined to THEM