The All Turd Draft

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Trying to figure a way to get all the uber talented but shady guys into one draft. Bad thing is that even with their concerns, several will still be first rounders. Only disappointment is not finding a DT. Anyone have a girlfriend beating, dope smoking, pants sagging DT for us? Didn't take Peters in the first as there were other DB talents later and I don't think we have a shot at Randy Gregory. Added benefit is McDonald gives us a return candidate and Williams is a ST demon.

So here it is, the All Turd Draft:

1st rd prospects - Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Missouri - STRENGTHS: Physical specimen with rare athleticism and triangle numbers (size/speed/strength) for his frame. Plays with balance and core power to keep his center of gravity. Uses long-striding acceleration to get vertical in a hurry and create separation in his routes. Strong plant-and-go burst in his breaks, effortlessly shifting his momentum in his patterns, not having to gear down when changing directions. Physical leaper with high-pointing prowess to climb the ladder and play in the clouds. Uses his body beautifully in coverage to tower over defenders with an outrageous catching radius. Aggressive at the catch point with loose body control, easy adjustments and large hands to pluck with an attacking mentality. Not a push-over and shows a ?take charge? on-field personality. Swats corners away in his path and won?t let defenders dictate his pattern. Productive when on the field with 87 catches in two seasons at Missouri, averaging a touchdown every 5.1 receptions.

WEAKNESSES: Functional strength is average-at-best, before and after the pass. Still learning the route tree and took advantage of mostly packaged and vertical patterns. Bad habit of getting lazy in his routes at times and doesn?t consistently read coverages to set up his movements. Will allow the ball to reach his body at times, which leads to drops. Needs seasoning and on-field reps after not playing since the 2013 season. Not a consistent finisher with questionable work habits ? uncertain accountability, both on and off the field. Strong red flags and immature make-up. Multiple off-field incidents, including two arrests for marijuana possession: first in Oct. 2012 with four other teammates; and then in Jan. 2014, although those charges were later dismissed when another person in the car where the drugs were found took ownership. Was dismissed from Missouri after allegedly forcing himself into an apartment and pushing a female down the stairs ? wasn?t formally charged because no one pressed charges, but could enter the NFL with a strike against him when it comes to domestic abuse.

2nd rd - PJ Williams - CB - FSU - STRENGTHS: Demonstrates an impressive combination of speed, fluidity and physicality that make him an ideal outside corner prospect for the next level. Good size for the position and not shy about sticking his body into the middle of the action. Will slip or fight through blocks and aggressively pursues ball carriers to deliver forceful hits.

WEAKNESSES: Can be a victim of his own aggressiveness, and give up big plays when attempting to jump passes. While he is willing in run support, Williams also will miss the occasional tackle, leading to backs and receivers picking up significant extra yardage.

Compares To: Charles Tillman, Chicago: Williams has the agility and speed to potentially handle man to man duties at the next level. His tenacity and physicality as an open-field tackler, however, is reminiscent of the Bears' long-time standout zone defender.

3rd rd - Paul Dawson - ILB - TCU - STRENGTHS: Possesses great agility for the position, showing quickness, balance and flexibility to avoid blockers and handle coverage responsibilities. Doesn't possess the preferred height for the position but sports a compact, well-proportioned frame and long arms. Quickly locates the football and shows terrific speed and effort in pursuit. Isn't afraid to attack gaps when he sees opportunities to make a play behind the line of scrimmage. Scrapes the corner and closes in a flash. Fluidity when changing directions and acceleration are also clear in coverage, where Dawson shows good awareness and ball-skills. Tackles low, wrapping ball-carriers securely.

WEAKNESSES: Relies on his agility rather than mass or strength to take on and shed blocks in the hole. Rarely extends his arms to keep blockers away, instead dancing laterally to slip by. In doing so, Dawson takes risky angles, at times, leaving cutback opportunities and the defense vulnerable. Surrounded by awful lot of speed at TCU and played in a relatively simple see-the-ball, get-the-ball scheme. Comes with typical JUCO questions about his maturity and ability to handle a complicated playbook.

COMPARES TO: Lavonte David, Buccaneers -- Like the 6-1, 233 pound David, Dawson has the agility and instincts to star if protected up front by a stout defensive line and allowed to roam free. Today's pass-happy offenses make size less of a detriment at linebacker than it once but schematic limitations could push Dawson into the second round, just as it David.

4th rd - Clark - DE - Michigan - STRENGTHS: Good body thickness throughout with long arms and quick, active hands to engage blockers. Goes hard off the snap with an energetic mentality. Savvy pass rusher. He's alert, tough, athletic and more effective against bigger blockers than he looks due to his agility and relatively long arms.

WEAKNESSES: November arrest on domestic violence charge will potentially take him completely off the board of several teams. Squarish frame likely to limit draft stock as well. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to generate movement at the point of attack. Doesn't always have a clear plan and needs to set up his moves better to fool blockers.

IN OUR VIEW: Clark isn't the type of prospect who will receive much publicity, but he will prove to be a steal in the NFL if he is able to satisfy teams regarding his November arrest. Regardless of how scouts feel about Clark's on-field talents, however, they'll need reassurance that he won't make future mistakes off the field, as this was the second arrest of his collegiate career.

5th rd - Karlos Williams - RB - FSU STRENGTHS: Exciting combination of size, straight-line speed and power. Looks the part of an NFL athlete with a tapered, well-built frame. Possesses speed, cutback ability and power, and demonstrated improved vision over the course of his collegiate career at running back. Williams has light feet and flexible ankles to make strong cuts and redirect his momentum quickly. While decisive and smooth, he also runs with forward lean and a physical style that makes him a tough guy to slow down once he gains steam.

Terrific special teams player. Consistently beats opponents down the field and is a willing, aggressive hitter. Intriguing athlete whose speed and physicality could warrant yet another position change. Good bloodlines. Brother is former FSU standout and current Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Vince Williams.

WEAKNESSES: Being a safety-to-back convert, Williams' instincts and feel need time to develop as he clearly looks more comfortable on the outside rather than between the tackles, where he doesn't show the same game-breaking ability. Allows holes to close because of his hesitancy and choppy footwork at the line of scrimmage, displaying questionable instincts. Above all, he needs to do a better job running behind his pads to maximize balance. He runs too upright and struggles to break tackles necessary as an effective inside runner. Comes with some character red flags. Was investigated (but not charged) for a domestic violence incident in November, 2014.

7th rd - Tevin McDonald - FS - E. Washington - STRENGTHS: Legitimate NFL-caliber athlete. Possesses light feet and loose hips which help him change directions and accelerate in a flash. Fast enough to handle centerfield duties. Speed is enhanced by good vision and awareness, especially against the pass. Shows good understanding of route concepts, breaking quickly to mirror receivers and put himself in position to make plays on the ball when quarterbacks challenge him. Natural ball-skills, showing the ability to pluck outside of his frame as well as quick reactions on deflected passes. A legitimate return threat with the ball in his hands. Sets up blocks well and shows vision and acceleration to elude and pull away from opponents. Flashes physicality as a hitter and is generally a reliable wrap-up tackler. Reportedly matured during his time at EWU. Voted a team captain in 2014. Terrific bloodlines.

WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal size and doesn't play with the consistent grit to guarantee that he'll overcome it against the greater size and aggression he'll face in the NFL. Can be overwhelmed by bigger receivers, getting beaten out on jump-balls despite his athleticism. Has a tendency of dropping his shoulder into ball-carriers, rather than wrapping securely, leading to an occasional missed tackle. Comes with obvious character red-flags that must be investigated. Missed the final five games of the 2013 season with a broken fibula and ankle injury to his left leg that requires investigating.

7th Rd - AJ Johnson - ILB - Tennessee - STRENGTHS: Unlike most inside linebackers who possess a compact, muscled-up frame, Johnson is a bit lanky. Like his athletic build suggests, Johnson is quick and he can slither past would-be blockers to make tackles in the hole. With greater upper body strength in 2014, Johnson could boost his stock. He has just enough speed to meet backs at the edge and is fluid enough to handle coverage responsibilities. Perhaps Johnson's greatest skill is his heavy-hitting as a tackler. He has a nice closing burst to gather momentum and consistently delivers the emphatic pop that has no doubt helped him build his all-conference reputation.

WEAKNESSES: He is reliant on beating blockers to the action because he struggles to disengage once they latch on, showing only average power and technique for the position. Worse, Johnson often drops his head on contact, losing sight of the ball.

Johnson's talent has been clear since his freshman season and his production speaks for itself. He isn't the clean NFL projection that his reputation might lead you to believe, however, and also comes with some off-field baggage. He was arrested February 8, 2014 for purchasing alcohol for a minor and resisting arrest. Rape charges in late 2014.
 

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Thomas Rawls RB Central Michigan

2014: Second-team All-MAC. Suspended two games after being charged with three felonies. Missed time at end of season with knee injury. Did not play in bowl game due to academic issues. Led team in rushing despite playing only nine games. 2013 (at Michigan): Played in one game as a running back. Contributed on special teams. 2012 (at Michigan): Played in eight games, started vs. Ohio State. 2011 (at Michigan): Played in 10 games, four as a reserve running back.


PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 4.42 and 4.5 seconds
Three-cone drill: 7.12 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.4 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
If you don't bring it to him, he will bring it to you. Powerful beyond his size with strong legs and outstanding balance at and beyond contact. Able to absorb contact on legs with defenders bouncing off. Coils into a ball of power and explodes into tacklers with cocked hip and low pad level to finish his run with a message being sent. Competes hard on every run with jump cuts and lateral shiftiness in the hole to go with his power. Sudden runner with ability to make sharp, decisive cuts. Can plant and go with immediate burst downhill or bounce to perimeter in search of new opportunities. Has desired foot quickness and hip fluidity. Has above-average vision and feel for the changing shape of running lanes. Hands are good enough to factor in passing game.
WEAKNESSES
Appears to be too cutback-happy at times rather than sticking with the original track. Doesn't keep ball tucked into contact at all times and gave away fumbles. Physical run style opens him to excessive wear and tear. Makes marginal effort in pass protection. Was held out of one game and suspended for another in 2014, but was reinstated after making plea deal in purse-theft case. He had been charged with felonies of larceny and credit card fraud after allegedly stealing a 62-year-old woman's purse in April 2014, but plead guilty to a charge of attempted larceny after the plea deal. Was sentenced to one year of probation and 104 hours of community service. Missed bowl game for academic reasons.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Round 4
SOURCES TELL US
"Our regional scout killed him in readings, but I'm going to bring him back up when the time is right because he's got what you are looking for." -- AFC running backs coach
NFL COMPARISON
Ahmad Bradshaw
BOTTOM LINE
Compact, powerful running back who runs just as powerfully on his 35th carry (back-to-back games of 40 carries) as he does to start the game. While he finishes with brute force, he possesses the vision and lateral movement of a finesse runner. He is more than capable of handling a starter's workload in the NFL, and had Purdue's safeties ready to tap out by the end of that game last season. His character must be vetted carefully, but the tools and the talent are those of a league starter.
 

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Thomas Rawls RB Central Michigan

2014: Second-team All-MAC. Suspended two games after being charged with three felonies. Missed time at end of season with knee injury. Did not play in bowl game due to academic issues. Led team in rushing despite playing only nine games. 2013 (at Michigan): Played in one game as a running back. Contributed on special teams. 2012 (at Michigan): Played in eight games, started vs. Ohio State. 2011 (at Michigan): Played in 10 games, four as a reserve running back.


PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 4.42 and 4.5 seconds
Three-cone drill: 7.12 seconds
20-yard short shuttle: 4.4 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
If you don't bring it to him, he will bring it to you. Powerful beyond his size with strong legs and outstanding balance at and beyond contact. Able to absorb contact on legs with defenders bouncing off. Coils into a ball of power and explodes into tacklers with cocked hip and low pad level to finish his run with a message being sent. Competes hard on every run with jump cuts and lateral shiftiness in the hole to go with his power. Sudden runner with ability to make sharp, decisive cuts. Can plant and go with immediate burst downhill or bounce to perimeter in search of new opportunities. Has desired foot quickness and hip fluidity. Has above-average vision and feel for the changing shape of running lanes. Hands are good enough to factor in passing game.
WEAKNESSES
Appears to be too cutback-happy at times rather than sticking with the original track. Doesn't keep ball tucked into contact at all times and gave away fumbles. Physical run style opens him to excessive wear and tear. Makes marginal effort in pass protection. Was held out of one game and suspended for another in 2014, but was reinstated after making plea deal in purse-theft case. He had been charged with felonies of larceny and credit card fraud after allegedly stealing a 62-year-old woman's purse in April 2014, but plead guilty to a charge of attempted larceny after the plea deal. Was sentenced to one year of probation and 104 hours of community service. Missed bowl game for academic reasons.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Round 4
SOURCES TELL US
"Our regional scout killed him in readings, but I'm going to bring him back up when the time is right because he's got what you are looking for." -- AFC running backs coach
NFL COMPARISON
Ahmad Bradshaw
BOTTOM LINE
Compact, powerful running back who runs just as powerfully on his 35th carry (back-to-back games of 40 carries) as he does to start the game. While he finishes with brute force, he possesses the vision and lateral movement of a finesse runner. He is more than capable of handling a starter's workload in the NFL, and had Purdue's safeties ready to tap out by the end of that game last season. His character must be vetted carefully, but the tools and the talent are those of a league starter.

Would you take him in the 4th over Clark? Is he a better RB than Williams?
 

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Would you take him in the 4th over Clark? Is he a better RB than Williams?

Only saw one game of his but he was pretty darn impressive in it.

I did not even remember his name or who he played against...just remember it was with Central Michigan and in the MAC so I looked him up a few weeks ago.

However it seems like he is player that is probably off a lot of teams boards as he was with Michigan, had to leave there, got in trouble with off the field issue(S) and trouble with Central Michigan as well.
 

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The thing is, that draft could actually turn out to be very good. Way too many things would have to go right though.
 

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The thing is, that draft could actually turn out to be very good. Way too many things would have to go right though.

Talent wise, you are probably getting guys at least a round later than you would and in a couple cases 2-3 rounds. So yes, in 3-4 years this could be a great draft. Of course, it could look like our 2009 draft.
 

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So here it is," the All Turd Draft" this really threw me, I thought this was a history of the steelers.:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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No....I mentioned him at the top...he will be gone for sure by 27.

A good Turd GM would have packaged our #1 and Randle to move up in the first to get Gregory. We would be giving up a turd in Randle but getting another turd with bigger upside.

And what about Jay Ajayi in the second:
Was arrested for stealing sweatpants in 2011 and faced long road of severe punishment from then-coach Chris Petersen
 

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Trying to figure a way to get all the uber talented but shady guys into one draft. Bad thing is that even with their concerns, several will still be first rounders. Only disappointment is not finding a DT. Anyone have a girlfriend beating, dope smoking, pants sagging DT for us? Didn't take Peters in the first as there were other DB talents later and I don't think we have a shot at Randy Gregory. Added benefit is McDonald gives us a return candidate and Williams is a ST demon.

So here it is, the All Turd Draft:

1st rd prospects - Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Missouri - STRENGTHS: Physical specimen with rare athleticism and triangle numbers (size/speed/strength) for his frame. Plays with balance and core power to keep his center of gravity. Uses long-striding acceleration to get vertical in a hurry and create separation in his routes. Strong plant-and-go burst in his breaks, effortlessly shifting his momentum in his patterns, not having to gear down when changing directions. Physical leaper with high-pointing prowess to climb the ladder and play in the clouds. Uses his body beautifully in coverage to tower over defenders with an outrageous catching radius. Aggressive at the catch point with loose body control, easy adjustments and large hands to pluck with an attacking mentality. Not a push-over and shows a ?take charge? on-field personality. Swats corners away in his path and won?t let defenders dictate his pattern. Productive when on the field with 87 catches in two seasons at Missouri, averaging a touchdown every 5.1 receptions.

WEAKNESSES: Functional strength is average-at-best, before and after the pass. Still learning the route tree and took advantage of mostly packaged and vertical patterns. Bad habit of getting lazy in his routes at times and doesn?t consistently read coverages to set up his movements. Will allow the ball to reach his body at times, which leads to drops. Needs seasoning and on-field reps after not playing since the 2013 season. Not a consistent finisher with questionable work habits ? uncertain accountability, both on and off the field. Strong red flags and immature make-up. Multiple off-field incidents, including two arrests for marijuana possession: first in Oct. 2012 with four other teammates; and then in Jan. 2014, although those charges were later dismissed when another person in the car where the drugs were found took ownership. Was dismissed from Missouri after allegedly forcing himself into an apartment and pushing a female down the stairs ? wasn?t formally charged because no one pressed charges, but could enter the NFL with a strike against him when it comes to domestic abuse.

2nd rd - PJ Williams - CB - FSU - STRENGTHS: Demonstrates an impressive combination of speed, fluidity and physicality that make him an ideal outside corner prospect for the next level. Good size for the position and not shy about sticking his body into the middle of the action. Will slip or fight through blocks and aggressively pursues ball carriers to deliver forceful hits.

WEAKNESSES: Can be a victim of his own aggressiveness, and give up big plays when attempting to jump passes. While he is willing in run support, Williams also will miss the occasional tackle, leading to backs and receivers picking up significant extra yardage.

Compares To: Charles Tillman, Chicago: Williams has the agility and speed to potentially handle man to man duties at the next level. His tenacity and physicality as an open-field tackler, however, is reminiscent of the Bears' long-time standout zone defender.

3rd rd - Paul Dawson - ILB - TCU - STRENGTHS: Possesses great agility for the position, showing quickness, balance and flexibility to avoid blockers and handle coverage responsibilities. Doesn't possess the preferred height for the position but sports a compact, well-proportioned frame and long arms. Quickly locates the football and shows terrific speed and effort in pursuit. Isn't afraid to attack gaps when he sees opportunities to make a play behind the line of scrimmage. Scrapes the corner and closes in a flash. Fluidity when changing directions and acceleration are also clear in coverage, where Dawson shows good awareness and ball-skills. Tackles low, wrapping ball-carriers securely.

WEAKNESSES: Relies on his agility rather than mass or strength to take on and shed blocks in the hole. Rarely extends his arms to keep blockers away, instead dancing laterally to slip by. In doing so, Dawson takes risky angles, at times, leaving cutback opportunities and the defense vulnerable. Surrounded by awful lot of speed at TCU and played in a relatively simple see-the-ball, get-the-ball scheme. Comes with typical JUCO questions about his maturity and ability to handle a complicated playbook.

COMPARES TO: Lavonte David, Buccaneers -- Like the 6-1, 233 pound David, Dawson has the agility and instincts to star if protected up front by a stout defensive line and allowed to roam free. Today's pass-happy offenses make size less of a detriment at linebacker than it once but schematic limitations could push Dawson into the second round, just as it David.

4th rd - Clark - DE - Michigan - STRENGTHS: Good body thickness throughout with long arms and quick, active hands to engage blockers. Goes hard off the snap with an energetic mentality. Savvy pass rusher. He's alert, tough, athletic and more effective against bigger blockers than he looks due to his agility and relatively long arms.

WEAKNESSES: November arrest on domestic violence charge will potentially take him completely off the board of several teams. Squarish frame likely to limit draft stock as well. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to generate movement at the point of attack. Doesn't always have a clear plan and needs to set up his moves better to fool blockers.

IN OUR VIEW: Clark isn't the type of prospect who will receive much publicity, but he will prove to be a steal in the NFL if he is able to satisfy teams regarding his November arrest. Regardless of how scouts feel about Clark's on-field talents, however, they'll need reassurance that he won't make future mistakes off the field, as this was the second arrest of his collegiate career.

5th rd - Karlos Williams - RB - FSU STRENGTHS: Exciting combination of size, straight-line speed and power. Looks the part of an NFL athlete with a tapered, well-built frame. Possesses speed, cutback ability and power, and demonstrated improved vision over the course of his collegiate career at running back. Williams has light feet and flexible ankles to make strong cuts and redirect his momentum quickly. While decisive and smooth, he also runs with forward lean and a physical style that makes him a tough guy to slow down once he gains steam.

Terrific special teams player. Consistently beats opponents down the field and is a willing, aggressive hitter. Intriguing athlete whose speed and physicality could warrant yet another position change. Good bloodlines. Brother is former FSU standout and current Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Vince Williams.

WEAKNESSES: Being a safety-to-back convert, Williams' instincts and feel need time to develop as he clearly looks more comfortable on the outside rather than between the tackles, where he doesn't show the same game-breaking ability. Allows holes to close because of his hesitancy and choppy footwork at the line of scrimmage, displaying questionable instincts. Above all, he needs to do a better job running behind his pads to maximize balance. He runs too upright and struggles to break tackles necessary as an effective inside runner. Comes with some character red flags. Was investigated (but not charged) for a domestic violence incident in November, 2014.

7th rd - Tevin McDonald - FS - E. Washington - STRENGTHS: Legitimate NFL-caliber athlete. Possesses light feet and loose hips which help him change directions and accelerate in a flash. Fast enough to handle centerfield duties. Speed is enhanced by good vision and awareness, especially against the pass. Shows good understanding of route concepts, breaking quickly to mirror receivers and put himself in position to make plays on the ball when quarterbacks challenge him. Natural ball-skills, showing the ability to pluck outside of his frame as well as quick reactions on deflected passes. A legitimate return threat with the ball in his hands. Sets up blocks well and shows vision and acceleration to elude and pull away from opponents. Flashes physicality as a hitter and is generally a reliable wrap-up tackler. Reportedly matured during his time at EWU. Voted a team captain in 2014. Terrific bloodlines.

WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal size and doesn't play with the consistent grit to guarantee that he'll overcome it against the greater size and aggression he'll face in the NFL. Can be overwhelmed by bigger receivers, getting beaten out on jump-balls despite his athleticism. Has a tendency of dropping his shoulder into ball-carriers, rather than wrapping securely, leading to an occasional missed tackle. Comes with obvious character red-flags that must be investigated. Missed the final five games of the 2013 season with a broken fibula and ankle injury to his left leg that requires investigating.

7th Rd - AJ Johnson - ILB - Tennessee - STRENGTHS: Unlike most inside linebackers who possess a compact, muscled-up frame, Johnson is a bit lanky. Like his athletic build suggests, Johnson is quick and he can slither past would-be blockers to make tackles in the hole. With greater upper body strength in 2014, Johnson could boost his stock. He has just enough speed to meet backs at the edge and is fluid enough to handle coverage responsibilities. Perhaps Johnson's greatest skill is his heavy-hitting as a tackler. He has a nice closing burst to gather momentum and consistently delivers the emphatic pop that has no doubt helped him build his all-conference reputation.

WEAKNESSES: He is reliant on beating blockers to the action because he struggles to disengage once they latch on, showing only average power and technique for the position. Worse, Johnson often drops his head on contact, losing sight of the ball.

Johnson's talent has been clear since his freshman season and his production speaks for itself. He isn't the clean NFL projection that his reputation might lead you to believe, however, and also comes with some off-field baggage. He was arrested February 8, 2014 for purchasing alcohol for a minor and resisting arrest. Rape charges in late 2014.

This Clark sounds like he would be worth the risk in the 4th round.
 

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Do you know why he was dismissed? Seems like a bit tall for DT....more likely a DE in a 3-4?

For taking part in a riot and domestic abuse:

A picture surfaced Wednesday that showed Irving in contact with a stop sign that had been ripped from the ground. Subsequently, he was suspended from the team on Friday after Ames police charged him with fifth-degree theft and disorderly conduct, both simple misdemeanors. He also was charged with criminal mischief, a class D felony.

Irving was charged with domestic abuse on Nov. 13 after an incident with the mother of his child. The charge was dropped in January


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ving-dimissed-cyclones-football-team/7652775/
 

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1st rd prospects - Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Missouri - STRENGTHS: Physical specimen with rare athleticism and triangle numbers (size/speed/strength) for his frame. Plays with balance and core power to keep his center of gravity. Uses long-striding acceleration to get vertical in a hurry and create separation in his routes. Strong plant-and-go burst in his breaks, effortlessly shifting his momentum in his patterns, not having to gear down when changing directions. Physical leaper with high-pointing prowess to climb the ladder and play in the clouds. Uses his body beautifully in coverage to tower over defenders with an outrageous catching radius. Aggressive at the catch point with loose body control, easy adjustments and large hands to pluck with an attacking mentality. Not a push-over and shows a ?take charge? on-field personality. Swats corners away in his path and won?t let defenders dictate his pattern. Productive when on the field with 87 catches in two seasons at Missouri, averaging a touchdown every 5.1 receptions.

Now this guy could be-just wait before you attack me- I Said Could BE the best WR in the Draft-if and I mean only if he got his head on straight.
 

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Talent wise, you are probably getting guys at least a round later than you would and in a couple cases 2-3 rounds. So yes, in 3-4 years this could be a great draft. Of course, it could look like our 2009 draft.

Was that the draft we have absolutely no one to show for it?
 

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For taking part in a riot and domestic abuse:

A picture surfaced Wednesday that showed Irving in contact with a stop sign that had been ripped from the ground. Subsequently, he was suspended from the team on Friday after Ames police charged him with fifth-degree theft and disorderly conduct, both simple misdemeanors. He also was charged with criminal mischief, a class D felony.

Irving was charged with domestic abuse on Nov. 13 after an incident with the mother of his child. The charge was dropped in January


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ving-dimissed-cyclones-football-team/7652775/

Someone came on here some time back and said that they were a friend or went to school there or something and said that someone handed him the Sign and he did not rip it or tear it out of the ground IIRC..>Don't have a clue if the person was telling the truth or not.
 

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Someone came on here some time back and said that they were a friend or went to school there or something and said that someone handed him the Sign and he did not rip it or tear it out of the ground IIRC..>Don't have a clue if the person was telling the truth or not.

Someone came on here some time back and said that they were a friend or went to school there or something and said that someone handed him the Sign and he did not rip it or tear it out of the ground IIRC..>Don't have a clue if the person was telling the truth or not.

can that person ring my local police department n let them no i didnt steal that ferrari,infact i was handed the keys by a complete stranger and told to go take it for a spin
 
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