The big Romo vs Eli debate.

[tupperware]

From the perspective of Giant fans, anyway:

I am a giants fan. I don't like tony romo, and prefer Eli over him at the quarterback position. I constantly get irritated when media-let's and average fans say they'd rather have romo over Eli, mostly because they reference his numbers that he managed to accumulate in a pass happy offense over the first couple years of his career.

However, I was thinking about it the other day, and I can understand choosing romo over Eli from a business perspective. As much a I don't want to admit it, tony is a solid, serviceable quarterback. Combine that with the fact that he makes 8-9 million a year (60 million overall on his contract), and I think you have the opportunity to build a really solid team.

Yes, he has an occasional melt down and case of the butterflies in fourth quarters. The guy has progressively gotten better over the course of his career, and is a tremendous leader for that franchise. He doesn't let the media get to him either. You're not going to find the intangibles he possesses and abilities in any quarterback making 60 million right now. How doesn't this Dallas team win every year with the amount of cash they're saving on him?

And I do love Eli. Better win another super bowl to live up to that contract though.

Nothing wrong with what you said there. And it makes sense in a way I suppose. but what you said about Romo having mental lapses easily answers this question. And it is exactly why I'd take Mr. Eli Manning over him.

So Romo may have the more consistent season as far as stats. But Eli will never f up in tough situations.

Granted Dallas has had some good defenses over the years, but if romo was on say, San Francisco, with a defense that could make up for his bone headed plays, and a coach that wouldn't tolerate them, we might think of him as that upper echelon quarterback. Although he isn't, he's making David Garrard money. Even the most stubborn of giants fans can admit he brings more to the table then Garrard ever will.

I guess it kind of all comes back to jerry jones. How does he not piece together a super bowl winner with the discount he has at the quarterback position?

GI see what you're saying there but I don't think you look for value in the QB position. Any great QB in this league is automatically a good value no matter how much he makes. What I mean is, the difference between Romo and Eli is maybe 5, 6 million a year in salary. With that money you could buy maybe one solid starter (depending on position), or a couple of role players. You couldn't afford a franchise left tackle, or a top-tier pass rusher, or a shutdown corner. So is it really worth it to downgrade the QB position just to get one more decent player on the roster?

Not going to kill you and respect your opinion but never had the thought in the past of preferring Romo over Eli much less in the present time. We could get in talking and debating a lot of issues from contract deals, stats, wins and more but IMO to yours truly it useless. To me ELI. AS IT ! Period ! Tony Oh No doesn't has it and never will and this kills a lot of ******* fans, ex boys players, media lovers and of course Jerry Jones.

Interesting takes (Not).

Thoughts?

 

[juck]

Eli Manning is a better QB. Romeo is better at backyard football though. That said neither of them are anywhere near Brees,Rodgers or Brady or Raper.

 

[tupperware]

Eli Manning is a better QB. Romeo is better at backyard football though.

I'd like to actually talk about the last part. I do notice that it seems Romo does considerably better when a play breaks down. He seems to work best outside the confines of a play call.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Romo is the better player hands down. He's better in every category except passing yards and the only reason for that is Eli pads his stats at the end of games. People say Romo lost 2 games well so did Eli against Seattle and Green Bay he threw pick 6's in both that cost the Giants a W.

Eli Manning is a better QB. Romeo is better at backyard football though. That said neither of them are anywhere near Brees,Rodgers or Brady or Raper.

:laugh2: @ you putting Big Ben in the same category as Rodgers, Brees, and Brady.

 

[SDCowboy]

What's the point of this? Giants fans prefer Eli. What did you expect?

 

[tupperware]

What's the point of this? Giants fans prefer Eli. What did you expect?

Do you think Commanders fans would prefer Grossman?

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Do you think Commanders fans would prefer Grossman?

Knowing them yes. :laugh2:

 

[SDCowboy]

Do you think Commanders fans would prefer Grossman?

He's not comparable in any way. And sadly, many would.

 

[tupperware]

He's not comparable in any way. And sadly, many would.

How is he not comparable, is he not a QB?

 

[benson]

Do you think Commanders fans would prefer Grossman?

Ah, interesting. Somebody should post a Romo vs Eli in a couple of Eagles and Commanders forums and see their opinions.

 

[SDCowboy]

How is he not comparable, is he not a QB?

He's not comparable because if there was a dictionary example of horrible NFL QB's, he would be the picture. Grossman is synonymous with being a horrible QB.

 

[tupperware]

He's not comparable because if there was a dictionary example of horrible NFL QB's, he would be the picture. Grossman is synonymous with being a horrible QB.

Romo career passer rating: 96.4
Eli career passer rating: 82.2
Grossman career passer rating: 71.1

There is a bigger gap between Romo and Eli than there is Eli and Grossman.

 

[SDCowboy]

Romo career passer rating: 96.4
Eli career passer rating: 82.2
Grossman career passer rating: 71.1

There is a bigger gap between Romo and Eli than there is Eli and Grossman.

Right. And Eli's career continues to be one of the most overrated of all time. His SB season, if he had any other last name, he wouldn't have even still been starting anymore. Even this year he's turned the ball over like crazy, yet he doesn't get known as turnover prone but if Romo throws one INT every 5 games, he's an INT machine.

 

[tupperware]

Right. And Eli's career continues to be one of the most overrated of all time. His SB season, if he had any other last name, he wouldn't have even still been starting anymore. Even this year he's turned the ball over like crazy, yet he doesn't get known as turnover prone but if Romo throws one INT every 5 games, he's an INT machine.

So does the Eli preference all boil down to the Superbowl in spite of the career passer rating?

 

[SDCowboy]

So does the Eli preference all boil down to the Superbowl in spite of the career passer rating?

Seems that way. To the ignorant sports fan, winning a SB or not either makes you great or not.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Choosing Eli over Romo is hardly an indefensible position.

Eli is having an excellent year and has the benefit of a Super Bowl victory. Last Sunday, Romo had a prime opportunity to stake his claim as the superior quarterback in the eyes of fans and media, but his team squandered it.

And now we endure the fallout.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Choosing Eli over Romo is hardly an indefensible position.

Eli is having an excellent year and has the benefit of a Super Bowl victory. Last Sunday, Romo had a prime opportunity to stake his claim as the superior quarterback in the eyes of fans and media, but his defense squandered it.

And now we endure the fallout.

Fixed.

 

[Doomsday]

Not sure what is suppose to be interesting about a bunch of clueless homers who arent offering any in partial arguments.

I love the first clown who says Romo plays in a pass happy offense. Eli has thrown the ball quite a bit more than Romo this season.

I also get a kick out of the perception that he doesnt F up in key situations. I guess throwing a pick 6 vs Green Bay or Seattle (when game was on line) doesnt count. They also forget about all his fumbles.

There numbers are so similar it isnt funny. They are both ranked right there in the top 5 to 8 in my opinion.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Choosing Eli over Romo is hardly an indefensible position.

Eli is having an excellent year and has the benefit of a Super Bowl victory. Last Sunday, Romo had a prime opportunity to stake his claim as the superior quarterback in the eyes of fans and media, but his team squandered it.

And now we endure the fallout.

Regardless of final results, Romo did show that he is on Eli's level. I personally think Romo's better...but granted, even if he weren't, being a Cowboys fan I'd still say he's better.

Eli might be having an excellent year, but Romo's is better.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

I'll take Romo every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The stats back me up on this one.