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Correct me if I'm wrong but I know we led the league in the 20+ yard receptions, but watching Brett Favre's 40 year old arm chucking bombs deep down the field on us got me wondering.

When was the last time we saw Tony let one loose. I know against Philly when T.O. was here he hit him on a bomb that travelled about 60 yards in the air. But in his career here I haven't ever seen Tony air it out.

I've always wondered if we were in a hail mary situation if he could throw it 60+ yards.

Anyone care to enlighten me on why we don't like to take shots deep down the field, or if Tony has the arm strength to make those types of throws.

This isn't a knock on Tony Romo, I'm his biggest fan and he's saved our franchise, his arm strength is obviously enough to get it done.
 

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Against GreenBay last year, he hopped over a defender and threw one 50+ yards in the air.

It's my main issue with this offense. They don't air it out enough on the sidelines.


The problem is definitely not Romo's arm. It's more of Garrett's play calling and Tony unwillingness to take the lower percentage throw, even though it might be the better option. He'll rather try to fit it in to a TE.


I remember watching playbook replays after the first Washington game and seeing Roy and other WRs open down field with Romo chosing the intermediate route instead.


There was a miss to John Phillips on the right sideline when Roy was open deep.

Miles had a double move and was open down the middle of the field and Romo forced it to Witten.

Even in the second Commanders game, there was a play were Romo forced a ball down the middle of the field to Witten when Miles was wide open down the field.
 

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67CowboysFan;3256916 said:
How long was his throw to Ogletree in the Philly game? (the one he over threw)

How long was that pass to Miles against New Orleans?

I wish they would call those more...:-(
 

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I like taking shots deep down the field because more often than not if you don't complete the pass you'll get a PI call.

I've wanted us to draft a burner of the Terry Glenn mold for the past few years but Jerry likes long striders apparently. Roy runs a 4.4 but none of us can really tell. Hopefully we target a speed guy with return abilities and we can kill two birds with one stone.
 

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After thinking about this a little more, when you go deep like that you are going to have to out throw the coverage or take a chance of getting intercepted. I only watch the games on tv so the view of the coverage isn't that great most of the time but I have heard Mickey Spagnola comment a few times how deep safeties are playing us. They know Miles can get behind coverage and they have to keep someone deep in case Felix breaks away. That would be one reason we don't see the deep ball very often.
 

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Apollo Creed;3256976 said:
I like taking shots deep down the field because more often than not if you don't complete the pass you'll get a PI call.

I've wanted us to draft a burner of the Terry Glenn mold for the past few years but Jerry likes long striders apparently. Roy runs a 4.4 but none of us can really tell. Hopefully we target a speed guy with return abilities and we can kill two birds with one stone.
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Dallas definitely needs to stretch the field more... Hopefully they'll put more packages in for Olgetree and add a guy like McCluster who can really burn!
 

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That PI on Austin during the Philly game on a bomb must have been a figment of my imagination.
 

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Apollo Creed;3256887 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I know we led the league in the 20+ yard receptions, but watching Brett Favre's 40 year old arm chucking bombs deep down the field on us got me wondering.

When was the last time we saw Tony let one loose. I know against Philly when T.O. was here he hit him on a bomb that travelled about 60 yards in the air. But in his career here I haven't ever seen Tony air it out.

I've always wondered if we were in a hail mary situation if he could throw it 60+ yards.

Anyone care to enlighten me on why we don't like to take shots deep down the field, or if Tony has the arm strength to make those types of throws.

This isn't a knock on Tony Romo, I'm his biggest fan and he's saved our franchise, his arm strength is obviously enough to get it done.


Romo has one of the strongest arms in the league, I went to training camp in San Antonio this past summer and I saw Romo take a 5 step drop and air it out on one play.

Romo was standing at his own 20 and the ball landed at the 10 yard line on the other side of the field. THAT IS 70 YARDS IN THE AIR!!!!!


As to why we dont throw bombs much during actual games, I really have no idea. I would probably guess that the majority of our pass routes are designed by Garrett to be either short or medium range and let the recievers get RAC yardage. So it is probably by play design in Garrett's offense as to why we dont throw alot of "go routes".
 

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Yeagermeister;3257333 said:
Tony can't throw it deep if he only has 2-3 seconds to throw it.

Good point.:D

That is why I am hoping for o-line at pick 27. I really dont care which postion, just draft somebody that can block!!!!
 

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Tony has become so turnover and fan consious that he clearly does not like to throw the long ball unless his man is open, as in wide open behind the defender.

Tony does not seem at all interested in throwing the ball up for grabs in 1-1 coverage deep. Actually, this is something the coach should work on with him.

First, he needs to trust his deep receivers that they will fight for the deep 1-1ball even if it ends up being a little short, long, inside or outside, or more towards the defender...Favre had complete trust in Rice this year; even the deep pass against Sensabaugh was extremely well covered, and I doubt Romo would have ever let go of that ball.

Second, when you get a deep receiver 1-1, even when covered well, if you can trust him to find the ball and fight off the defender, you have to let it go because it will sometimes be caught and it will very often result in a pass interference penalty....it will now and then result in an INT.

Bottom line, Tony throws to guys who are open, seldom to guys who are covered deep in man to man...he doesn't seem to like that gamble.
 

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Long Bombs is not a good way to determine arm strength, Deep outs where the ball can't be floated and must be thrown on a line is a much better indicator of a QB arm strength. As for Romo I think he has ample arm strength not as big as others but strong enough to make all the throws
 

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Yeagermeister;3257333 said:
Tony can't throw it deep if he only has 2-3 seconds to throw it.
Well he "can..." Just won't be anyone there to catch it. :D
 

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Apollo Creed;3256887 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I know we led the league in the 20+ yard receptions, but watching Brett Favre's 40 year old arm chucking bombs deep down the field on us got me wondering.

When was the last time we saw Tony let one loose. I know against Philly when T.O. was here he hit him on a bomb that travelled about 60 yards in the air. But in his career here I haven't ever seen Tony air it out.

I've always wondered if we were in a hail mary situation if he could throw it 60+ yards.

Anyone care to enlighten me on why we don't like to take shots deep down the field, or if Tony has the arm strength to make those types of throws.

This isn't a knock on Tony Romo, I'm his biggest fan and he's saved our franchise, his arm strength is obviously enough to get it done.

I don't think he has a burner to get it to. Perhaps he will have one next year. Go go gadget draft.
 

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Bleu Star;3258116 said:
I don't think he has a burner to get it to. Perhaps he will have one next year. Go go gadget draft.

Hey Bleu, you don't need a burner to go get it all the time. You also can throw deep to a receiver that goes up and get it, ala Fitzgerald, Blax, Marshall and the such. You think Austin can be one or the other?

We just don't throw deep. But still we where 2nd in the league in offense and lead in plays of more than 20 yards. Go figure!

Our problem is we don't score when we get down in our opponents territory! :bang2:
 

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PhillyCowboysFan;3258238 said:
Hey Bleu, you don't need a burner to go get it all the time. You also can throw deep to a receiver that goes up and get it, ala Fitzgerald, Blax, Marshall and the such. You think Austin can be one or the other?

We just don't throw deep. But still we where 2nd in the league in offense and lead in plays of more than 20 yards. Go figure!

Our problem is we don't score when we get down in our opponents territory! :bang2:

Austin makes his living with YAC. We don't really have a guy that truly stretches the field. Austin is just a beast but he and Romo (for whatever reason) don't connect long. More often than not, they connect short to intermediate and Austin creates highlights from there. If we had a burner opposite Austin we would be sick. We don't need a stinkin chain moving WR... Witten fills that role quite nicely...
 

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wayne motley;3257337 said:
Bottom line, Tony throws to guys who are open, seldom to guys who are covered deep in man to man...he doesn't seem to like that gamble.

probably because when he does make that throw and it is incomplete or INT, fans yap that he has to hold onto the ball and not turn it over.
 

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Bleu Star;3258243 said:
Austin makes his living with YAC. We don't really have a guy that truly stretches the field. Austin is just a beast but he and Romo (for whatever reason) don't connect long. More often than not, they connect short to intermediate and Austin creates highlights from there.

I agree with what you are saying, but I am asking weather Austin can do it are not. We don't know because they don't throw it enough. The 2 games I have went to this year I noticed Austin and even Roy break deep and Romo want even look at them. Aikman also said this doing the Vikings game. And he has made plays in the past going deep. There a a lot of receivers in the NFL that that doesn't have blazing speed but seems to go deep alot.


Garrett doesn't seem to call the deep ball for what ever reason. Either Tony doesn't have the time or not wanting to throw a int. I don't know why, he just will not call them.

I will agree that a blazer will aleast make him think about it more.
 
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