The bottom line on the sideline

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Forget the guy you wanted and just consider one element of this and the single most repeated complaint I've seen for years about the HC, the game management from the sideline.

That was really my strongest reservation about Garrett, he was not in control on that sideline and I think every player on that team felt it. He never seemed to get that down. If the game was coming down to crunch time and it was about the sideline management, they felt they were at a disadvantage with a good HC on the other sideline.

Just from the perception of involvement in the game, Big Mike is a huge upgrade. I do not recall him getting flummoxed on the sideline during crucial times in the game. I do not see him leaving an overmatched LT in the game as the guy gets hammered over and over.

Some coaches fear that moment and I believe Garrett was one of those because he knew his limitations but Big Mike cut his teeth on crunch time, I think he's one of those coaches that lives for that moment, that is when they're the most alive, when they really think they make the difference.

I wanted either Rivera or Big Mike because they're seasoned with big games, low key and in control and both still exude passion for what they do, never got that from Garrett. I always felt it was just a job to him. The other reason I wanted either of these two men is that they were fired and they are proud men. Fired proud men are dangerous for they have something more to prove.

And I know this is just wasting fingerprints but instead of raining on this parade, why not at least let it get started down the street before you do. I was not on board with McDaniels or any college coach but I would have at least let it play out before I began calling failure. And yes, I realize the owner/GM is still there and that's always a potential problem but at least we got us as a better guy on the sideline and I'd say that's a pretty healthy bottom line.

For the first time in a very long time, I don't think I'll have that nervous antsy feeling in a tight game in the 4Q as I think our guy is as good as any of their guys.
 
Well said my friend. There is zero doubt this team has upgraded at the head coaching position. One of Garrett’s biggest inherent flaws was certainly his sideline demeanor. Not that that alone is going to win games but if a player looks at the sideline in a crucial moment, the guy standing there can certainly set a tone.

Garrett always looked to me like a middle school coach who doubled as an English teacher. Boring, and lacking in any kind of edge which is useful when facing playoff elimination or playing a key reg season game where emotion will play a role. Garrett was about as inspiring as vanilla ice cream.

Who knows if McCarthy can change this sick culture. But he for sure has a better skill set than his predecessor.
 
Well said my friend. There is zero doubt this team has upgraded at the head coaching position. One of Garrett’s biggest inherent flaws was certainly his sideline demeanor. Not that that alone is going to win games but if a player looks at the sideline in a crucial moment, the guy standing there can certainly set a tone.

Garrett always looked to me like a middle school coach who doubled as an English teacher. Boring, and lacking in any kind of edge which is useful when facing playoff elimination or playing a key reg season game where emotion will play a role. Garrett was about as inspiring as vanilla ice cream.

Who knows if McCarthy can change this sick culture. But he for sure has a better skill set than his predecessor.
Culture is a different animal with this team and that flows from the top. In order for the players to feel the culture has changed, Booger must allow Big Mike to establish his own accountability and responsibility standards and that's still a ?

But the ? about a better sideline, no ? on that in my mind. That has always been my greatest concern with this team under Garrett. Didn't matter what happened in the first 50 minutes, what happens if it's close in the last 10?

I always felt football was one of the things to Garrett; I feel it is the only thing to Big Mike, the man has football coach written all over him.
 
Forget the guy you wanted and just consider one element of this and the single most repeated complaint I've seen for years about the HC, the game management from the sideline.

That was really my strongest reservation about Garrett, he was not in control on that sideline and I think every player on that team felt it. He never seemed to get that down. If the game was coming down to crunch time and it was about the sideline management, they felt they were at a disadvantage with a good HC on the other sideline.

Just from the perception of involvement in the game, Big Mike is a huge upgrade. I do not recall him getting flummoxed on the sideline during crucial times in the game. I do not see him leaving an overmatched LT in the game as the guy gets hammered over and over.

Some coaches fear that moment and I believe Garrett was one of those because he knew his limitations but Big Mike cut his teeth on crunch time, I think he's one of those coaches that lives for that moment, that is when they're the most alive, when they really think they make the difference.

I wanted either Rivera or Big Mike because they're seasoned with big games, low key and in control and both still exude passion for what they do, never got that from Garrett. I always felt it was just a job to him. The other reason I wanted either of these two men is that they were fired and they are proud men. Fired proud men are dangerous for they have something more to prove.

And I know this is just wasting fingerprints but instead of raining on this parade, why not at least let it get started down the street before you do. I was not on board with McDaniels or any college coach but I would have at least let it play out before I began calling failure. And yes, I realize the owner/GM is still there and that's always a potential problem but at least we got us as a better guy on the sideline and I'd say that's a pretty healthy bottom line.

For the first time in a very long time, I don't think I'll have that nervous antsy feeling in a tight game in the 4Q as I think our guy is as good as any of their guys.

Great post. Well stated and I hope others can take something from it.
 
The guy can definitely handle his own. He won't be out coached by 30 other HCs like Garrett would have been.
 
Nothing stopping us now.

Super Bowl or Bust !!

Or it’s a total failure.
 
Culture is a different animal with this team and that flows from the top. In order for the players to feel the culture has changed, Booger must allow Big Mike to establish his own accountability and responsibility standards and that's still a ?

But the ? about a better sideline, no ? on that in my mind. That has always been my greatest concern with this team under Garrett. Didn't matter what happened in the first 50 minutes, what happens if it's close in the last 10?

I always felt football was one of the things to Garrett; I feel it is the only thing to Big Mike, the man has football coach written all over him.
What did he ever do without Rodgers?
 
Well said my friend. There is zero doubt this team has upgraded at the head coaching position. One of Garrett’s biggest inherent flaws was certainly his sideline demeanor. Not that that alone is going to win games but if a player looks at the sideline in a crucial moment, the guy standing there can certainly set a tone.

Garrett always looked to me like a middle school coach who doubled as an English teacher. Boring, and lacking in any kind of edge which is useful when facing playoff elimination or playing a key reg season game where emotion will play a role. Garrett was about as inspiring as vanilla ice cream.

Who knows if McCarthy can change this sick culture. But he for sure has a better skill set than his predecessor.
Who knows if McCarthy can change this sick culture
See thats priority number one for me, I'll say it till I'm blue in the face - We need a counter-weight to Jerrys' sick culture.

Jimmy and Bill were that...I dont think MM is, he doesn't have that presence imo.

Is he a better X and O guy - yes but I would have rather a disciplinarian like Zimmer.
 
Forget the guy you wanted and just consider one element of this and the single most repeated complaint I've seen for years about the HC, the game management from the sideline.

That was really my strongest reservation about Garrett, he was not in control on that sideline and I think every player on that team felt it. He never seemed to get that down. If the game was coming down to crunch time and it was about the sideline management, they felt they were at a disadvantage with a good HC on the other sideline.

Just from the perception of involvement in the game, Big Mike is a huge upgrade. I do not recall him getting flummoxed on the sideline during crucial times in the game. I do not see him leaving an overmatched LT in the game as the guy gets hammered over and over.

Some coaches fear that moment and I believe Garrett was one of those because he knew his limitations but Big Mike cut his teeth on crunch time, I think he's one of those coaches that lives for that moment, that is when they're the most alive, when they really think they make the difference.

I wanted either Rivera or Big Mike because they're seasoned with big games, low key and in control and both still exude passion for what they do, never got that from Garrett. I always felt it was just a job to him. The other reason I wanted either of these two men is that they were fired and they are proud men. Fired proud men are dangerous for they have something more to prove.

And I know this is just wasting fingerprints but instead of raining on this parade, why not at least let it get started down the street before you do. I was not on board with McDaniels or any college coach but I would have at least let it play out before I began calling failure. And yes, I realize the owner/GM is still there and that's always a potential problem but at least we got us as a better guy on the sideline and I'd say that's a pretty healthy bottom line.

For the first time in a very long time, I don't think I'll have that nervous antsy feeling in a tight game in the 4Q as I think our guy is as good as any of their guys.
Personally I'm not thrilled about the McCarthy hire but you make some good points and I will Reserve judgment but one thing's for sure I don't think he'll piss his pants someone were planning to doesn't put someone back to receive the punt I think some discipline will be instilled I just wonder how these players will handle it? It's been lacking for a long time. Garrett always said we had really great practices while when your hand feeding players it doesn't help them to think on their own out on the field we need to see some more of that too! I am intrigued about the defensive coordinator hire I've always liked the Nolan's and even our first great coach of this Dallas Cowboys team had his father on staff so he knows the old proud tradition this team wants head let's just hope Jerry has woken up and smelled the coffee and let's this staff coach
 
What I found rather bothersome about Garrett, other than the obvious, was his demeanor after a loss. Never seemed like it bothered him. There was shot of McDermott and Garrett shaking hands after the Thanksgiving game and I swear you would have thought the Cowboys won from the two coaches facial expressions.
 
What I found rather bothersome about Garrett, other than the obvious, was his demeanor after a loss. Never seemed like it bothered him. There was shot of McDermott and Garrett shaking hands after the Thanksgiving game and I swear you would have thought the Cowboys won from the two coaches facial expressions.
Won't have to see that smile after a loss again. I hated that.
 
Forget the guy you wanted and just consider one element of this and the single most repeated complaint I've seen for years about the HC, the game management from the sideline.
Night and day difference.

At least a couple of games lost this season because of The Clapper.
 
See thats priority number one for me, I'll say it till I'm blue in the face - We need a counter-weight to Jerrys' sick culture.

Jimmy and Bill were that...I dont think MM is, he doesn't have that presence imo.

Is he a better X and O guy - yes but I would have rather a disciplinarian like Zimmer.
I’m not sure Bill was allowed to be the disciplinarian he’d been before. Which was a problem of course.

And it will be a problem for Mike and anyone.

The culture and toxic atmosphere is a bigger problem than coaching. The leadership and last word must come from the HC not the owner which is what Troy was talking about.
 
I’m not sure Bill was allowed to be the disciplinarian he’d been before. Which was a problem of course.

And it will be a problem for Mike and anyone.

The culture and toxic atmosphere is a bigger problem than coaching. The leadership and last word must come from the HC not the owner which is what Troy was talking about.
I think he was, his results anywhere he went speak for themselves.

Yes Troy is obviously correct, hence why we need a strong presence at the HC position, start from there then get your coordinators to take care of the Xs and Os.

The fly in the ointment as we all know, is Jerry will never do that, his ego won't allow it.
 
Forget the guy you wanted and just consider one element of this and the single most repeated complaint I've seen for years about the HC, the game management from the sideline.

That was really my strongest reservation about Garrett, he was not in control on that sideline and I think every player on that team felt it. He never seemed to get that down. If the game was coming down to crunch time and it was about the sideline management, they felt they were at a disadvantage with a good HC on the other sideline.

Just from the perception of involvement in the game, Big Mike is a huge upgrade. I do not recall him getting flummoxed on the sideline during crucial times in the game. I do not see him leaving an overmatched LT in the game as the guy gets hammered over and over.

Some coaches fear that moment and I believe Garrett was one of those because he knew his limitations but Big Mike cut his teeth on crunch time, I think he's one of those coaches that lives for that moment, that is when they're the most alive, when they really think they make the difference.

I wanted either Rivera or Big Mike because they're seasoned with big games, low key and in control and both still exude passion for what they do, never got that from Garrett. I always felt it was just a job to him. The other reason I wanted either of these two men is that they were fired and they are proud men. Fired proud men are dangerous for they have something more to prove.

And I know this is just wasting fingerprints but instead of raining on this parade, why not at least let it get started down the street before you do. I was not on board with McDaniels or any college coach but I would have at least let it play out before I began calling failure. And yes, I realize the owner/GM is still there and that's always a potential problem but at least we got us as a better guy on the sideline and I'd say that's a pretty healthy bottom line.

For the first time in a very long time, I don't think I'll have that nervous antsy feeling in a tight game in the 4Q as I think our guy is as good as any of their guys.


except for Green bay fans, he was poor at game management issues, just as you'll criticized Garrett.
 
The other problem is head coach Mike McCarthy. He’s only slightly better than John Fox at clock management, while also being predictable, conservative, and, to hear Greg Jennings tell it, lacks a killer instinct.

Jennings discussed his former head coach on Fox Sports Wednesday afternoon.




McCarthy tried to lose that game about 9 times on Sunday, and each time his defense or Rodgers bailed him out. You can tweak him for clock management or call him out for personnel decisions, but my biggest issue with McCarthy is a simple one: He doesn’t coach to win. He coaches not to lose.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/09/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-mike-mccarthy-nfl-head-coaches
 
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