The case for Oline in round 1

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I know defence is one of our biggest weaknesses. It is an area that we need a lot of improvement. I am also aware that many people want Pitts. I'll admit that Pitts is a monster of a TE. However, Pitts is a luxury pick that I don't think this team can afford with the issues. However, I understand the argument of some that a lot of the defencive options that'd be available to us at 10 may not be 10th overall quality. So, allow me to make the case for drafting oline at 10 if we can't get a trade down.

I'm going to start with a history lesson for comparison. In 2007, the Cowboys led by Tony Romo in his first full season (he took over halfway the previous season) went 13-3 (matching the best record the Cowboys have ever had) and went to the NFC Division Round. Of course, we ended up losing to the eventual SB Champion Giants. I was in 8th grade at the time. If I recall correctly, part of the problem was that the Giants had an excellent defence which managed to shut down our seemingly invincible offense. Additionally, we had a great defence that year. Yet, our weakness in that game was poor oline play if memory serves me right. We saw glimpses of that earlier in the season. Remember the play where Gurode snapped the ball over Romo's head and he had to run about 30 yards back to get it, and he ran about 40 yards for a first down? From that playoff game on until about 2012, our oline deteriorated to the point where Romo started to sustain injuries including his broken collarbone in 2010. So, Jerry finally decided to start addressing the deteriorating oline by drafting the then 20 year old Tyron Smith that first round pick (coincidentally at the 9th overall pick that year) over JJ Watt. This was and still is a slightly debatable pick, but the injury to Romo made drafting Tyron Smith a more obvious choice. He was raw at the time, but he showed promise. As the season went on, he was a bright light for an otherwise awful oline that year, and the team improved to 8-8 from the 6-10 mark the season before.

The next year, we drafted Morris Claiborne to replace Terrance Newman. We also signed rookie UDFA Ronald Leary who rotated with Nate Livings, who was signed to replace Kyle Kosar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Livings). The oline was slightly better, but still needed much improvement. So, the next year the Cowboys traded back and, with the 30th overall pick, took C Travis Frederick, who was considered a reach at the time given his position. Yet, he turned out to be the best C in the league for many seasons. Travis Frederick was BY FAR the best pick we made that draft. We finished 8-8 for a third time, but it was also this season when Romo's previous season beatings started to take a toll, and the defence was absolutely putrid. That 2013 defence was on par with the defence we had last year, and that was saying something. Yet, Romo pulled a miraculous comeback win against the Commanders, despite a noticeable limp for most of the 4th quarter, to improve the team to 8-7 to set up a game the following week against the Eagles with the division on the line. Yet, disaster struck during that game also as it turned out Romo had suffered a herniated disk, an injury that had to be nursed the following season quite heavily. Thus, we lost to the Eagles who lost the wildcard to the New Orleans Saints. The 2014 NFL draft came. Many thought that the Cowboys would take Manziel given Romo's body deteriorating and the need for a new QB apparently approaching. Yet, the Cowboys surprised many people by taking G Zach Martin. This completed the trifecta at oline for the team. In that season, that oline managed to keep Romo healthy for the most part and allowed Demarco Murray to run for an incredible season that year. The team was so good, it managed to defeat the defending Super Bowl Champion Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. Defeating the Seahawks with Wilson and the Legion of Boom was a feat that only the Cardinals the previous season managed to do. This led the Cowboys to a 12-4 season in which the team narrowly lost to the Green Bay Packers in a widely controversial result. For the next 3 seasons, the Cowboys had arguably the best oline in the league until 2017. It was in 2017 that the vaunted Cowboys oline started to show signs of deterioration. T Smith went down and led to the disastrous Falcons game. Free retired leading into the season. Since then, the oline has been in complete deterioration.

Furthermore, one of the reasons we were so successful in 2014 was because our oline allowed us to control the ball. This meant that the defence was on the field less allowing them to be better rested. Oh, and I should add that we lost Sean Lee that training camp which, on paper, made what would've been a terrible defence even worse. Yet, that defence actually played well because they weren't on the field as much. As long as our O controlled the ball, we couldn't lose. The defence didn't have to be on the field much, and they could play with a lead. This led to the defence playing better. We have yet another new DC, but one that has a similar style to what this defence was more familiar with, so I think with that alone, the defence should play better. We've made some good signings in FA. Ironically, I think taking oline at 10 may be the quickest way to fix the DEFENCE, just as it was a big reason why our defence in 2014 was significantly better than the 2013 defence despite not much difference in terms of acquisitions. Additionally, the WFT have made insane strides on their dline to where they have arguably one of the best dlines in the league. The NYG have made great strides at dline as well. So, if we're going to take full advantage of the weapons we have on offense and to be able to compete with the dlines that they have, we need to repair our oline and make sure we maintain it better. Dak had a significant injury. While not in it of itself a direct result of poor oline, but I think that the oline failing played a role in it just as the oline failing Romo played a role in his body beginning to falter. Additionally, Zeke was unable to run last year like we normally expect him to. I know he takes a lot of flack, and, sometimes, he may deserve it. However, with the massive amount of rotation that the oline had, blaming Zeke for the majority of the running issues last year is short-sighted and misses the bigger picture.

This oline is NOT what it once was. If we can start correcting course with this oline to get it closer to its 2013-2016 form, I think we will find a rebirth of Zeke's career. I think Dak will be much healthier and will last longer. I think he'll be in a better position to find the weapons we already have, and, more importantly, our defence will be on the field less as our oline will once more allow us to methodically march down the field wearing the other team out and killing their desire to try to stop us. Thus allowing us to score more TDs because our offense will be dominating the dline. This feeds into a team just as it did in the 2013-2016 seasons. As this happens, our defence will find themselves playing with a lead more often allowing them to take more chances and to attack the QB more knowing that the other team won't be able to run as much, thus disarming the best weapon a team can use against us. Teams won't be able to run against us because the clock will quickly become the enemy of the other team with the way our oline would be able to control the clock like it used to. This is why we should draft oline at 10. Either Sewell, if he falls to us, or Slater.
 
I should also add that, when in doubt about a pick and a good trade down offer isn't available, it's usually a good idea to pick a trench player. Trench players like oline and dline are usually safe picks and mean more to a team than most people realise. In fact, I advocate that next year, if we go OT this year, we should consider going guard because Zach Martin was showing some wear. This year, we need to fix BOTH trenches. Next year, we need to maintain our oline. As for the dline, it's close to being fixed I think. We need 1T DT, and we could use an upgrade at DE. So, next year, we should maintain our trenches.
 
Agree.

we need a RT.

Not RT (though, I wouldn't be opposed to RT, especially someone starting there and moving to LT when T Smith retires), I'm thinking LT. We need to get ready to replace Smith. I think Collins will be fine this year (plus, I think we can use Steele like we used Parnell in 2014). It's LT that we need to get someone.
 
Case for not taking an OL in the first round.

Our continual investment in the OL with high picks and money hasn't produced any real results on the field. Sure. we have had some good OLs over the last 6-7 years but the flaws in the roster could not be overcome by the OL on its own. Other teams build OLs through FA, mid round picks, etc. We seem to be only able to build a great OL if we just throw premium picks at the position.

That being said, I'd take Sewell if he fell to 10 simply because I think he's the clear best OT prospect. Slater is overrated by some and there is even chatter he might be best as an OG in the NFL. I am not using the 10th pick on a guy like that.
 
Case for not taking an OL in the first round.

Our continual investment in the OL with high picks and money hasn't produced any real results on the field. Sure. we have had some good OLs over the last 6-7 years but the flaws in the roster could not be overcome by the OL on its own. Other teams build OLs through FA, mid round picks, etc. We seem to be only able to build a great OL if we just throw premium picks at the position.

That being said, I'd take Sewell if he fell to 10 simply because I think he's the clear best OT prospect. Slater is overrated by some and there is even chatter he might be best as an OG in the NFL. I am not using the 10th pick on a guy like that.

I actually wouldn't be opposed to Slater at guard. I see Connor Williams as more of a T anyway. Besides, we do need to maintain the oline. Like I said, given the advances the WFT and Giants have made, we should really maintain our oline. If worst comes to worst, Oline is usually a safe pick. Sewell would be great for us. We really could use him. He's a bigger need than Pitts.
 
I actually wouldn't be opposed to Slater at guard. I see Connor Williams as more of a T anyway. Besides, we do need to maintain the oline. Like I said, given the advances the WFT and Giants have made, we should really maintain our oline. If worst comes to worst, Oline is usually a safe pick. Sewell would be great for us. We really could use him. He's a bigger need than Pitts.

I am not excited by taking a future OG at 10. Unless that guy was the next coming of Quenton Nelson, which Slater doesn't appear to be.
 
I know defence is one of our biggest weaknesses. It is an area that we need a lot of improvement. I am also aware that many people want Pitts. I'll admit that Pitts is a monster of a TE. However, Pitts is a luxury pick that I don't think this team can afford with the issues. However, I understand the argument of some that a lot of the defencive options that'd be available to us at 10 may not be 10th overall quality. So, allow me to make the case for drafting oline at 10 if we can't get a trade down.

I'm going to start with a history lesson for comparison. In 2007, the Cowboys led by Tony Romo in his first full season (he took over halfway the previous season) went 13-3 (matching the best record the Cowboys have ever had) and went to the NFC Division Round. Of course, we ended up losing to the eventual SB Champion Giants. I was in 8th grade at the time. If I recall correctly, part of the problem was that the Giants had an excellent defence which managed to shut down our seemingly invincible offense. Additionally, we had a great defence that year. Yet, our weakness in that game was poor oline play if memory serves me right. We saw glimpses of that earlier in the season. Remember the play where Gurode snapped the ball over Romo's head and he had to run about 30 yards back to get it, and he ran about 40 yards for a first down? From that playoff game on until about 2012, our oline deteriorated to the point where Romo started to sustain injuries including his broken collarbone in 2010. So, Jerry finally decided to start addressing the deteriorating oline by drafting the then 20 year old Tyron Smith that first round pick (coincidentally at the 9th overall pick that year) over JJ Watt. This was and still is a slightly debatable pick, but the injury to Romo made drafting Tyron Smith a more obvious choice. He was raw at the time, but he showed promise. As the season went on, he was a bright light for an otherwise awful oline that year, and the team improved to 8-8 from the 6-10 mark the season before.

The next year, we drafted Morris Claiborne to replace Terrance Newman. We also signed rookie UDFA Ronald Leary who rotated with Nate Livings, who was signed to replace Kyle Kosar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Livings). The oline was slightly better, but still needed much improvement. So, the next year the Cowboys traded back and, with the 30th overall pick, took C Travis Frederick, who was considered a reach at the time given his position. Yet, he turned out to be the best C in the league for many seasons. Travis Frederick was BY FAR the best pick we made that draft. We finished 8-8 for a third time, but it was also this season when Romo's previous season beatings started to take a toll, and the defence was absolutely putrid. That 2013 defence was on par with the defence we had last year, and that was saying something. Yet, Romo pulled a miraculous comeback win against the Commanders, despite a noticeable limp for most of the 4th quarter, to improve the team to 8-7 to set up a game the following week against the Eagles with the division on the line. Yet, disaster struck during that game also as it turned out Romo had suffered a herniated disk, an injury that had to be nursed the following season quite heavily. Thus, we lost to the Eagles who lost the wildcard to the New Orleans Saints. The 2014 NFL draft came. Many thought that the Cowboys would take Manziel given Romo's body deteriorating and the need for a new QB apparently approaching. Yet, the Cowboys surprised many people by taking G Zach Martin. This completed the trifecta at oline for the team. In that season, that oline managed to keep Romo healthy for the most part and allowed Demarco Murray to run for an incredible season that year. The team was so good, it managed to defeat the defending Super Bowl Champion Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. Defeating the Seahawks with Wilson and the Legion of Boom was a feat that only the Cardinals the previous season managed to do. This led the Cowboys to a 12-4 season in which the team narrowly lost to the Green Bay Packers in a widely controversial result. For the next 3 seasons, the Cowboys had arguably the best oline in the league until 2017. It was in 2017 that the vaunted Cowboys oline started to show signs of deterioration. T Smith went down and led to the disastrous Falcons game. Free retired leading into the season. Since then, the oline has been in complete deterioration.

Furthermore, one of the reasons we were so successful in 2014 was because our oline allowed us to control the ball. This meant that the defence was on the field less allowing them to be better rested. Oh, and I should add that we lost Sean Lee that training camp which, on paper, made what would've been a terrible defence even worse. Yet, that defence actually played well because they weren't on the field as much. As long as our O controlled the ball, we couldn't lose. The defence didn't have to be on the field much, and they could play with a lead. This led to the defence playing better. We have yet another new DC, but one that has a similar style to what this defence was more familiar with, so I think with that alone, the defence should play better. We've made some good signings in FA. Ironically, I think taking oline at 10 may be the quickest way to fix the DEFENCE, just as it was a big reason why our defence in 2014 was significantly better than the 2013 defence despite not much difference in terms of acquisitions. Additionally, the WFT have made insane strides on their dline to where they have arguably one of the best dlines in the league. The NYG have made great strides at dline as well. So, if we're going to take full advantage of the weapons we have on offense and to be able to compete with the dlines that they have, we need to repair our oline and make sure we maintain it better. Dak had a significant injury. While not in it of itself a direct result of poor oline, but I think that the oline failing played a role in it just as the oline failing Romo played a role in his body beginning to falter. Additionally, Zeke was unable to run last year like we normally expect him to. I know he takes a lot of flack, and, sometimes, he may deserve it. However, with the massive amount of rotation that the oline had, blaming Zeke for the majority of the running issues last year is short-sighted and misses the bigger picture.

This oline is NOT what it once was. If we can start correcting course with this oline to get it closer to its 2013-2016 form, I think we will find a rebirth of Zeke's career. I think Dak will be much healthier and will last longer. I think he'll be in a better position to find the weapons we already have, and, more importantly, our defence will be on the field less as our oline will once more allow us to methodically march down the field wearing the other team out and killing their desire to try to stop us. Thus allowing us to score more TDs because our offense will be dominating the dline. This feeds into a team just as it did in the 2013-2016 seasons. As this happens, our defence will find themselves playing with a lead more often allowing them to take more chances and to attack the QB more knowing that the other team won't be able to run as much, thus disarming the best weapon a team can use against us. Teams won't be able to run against us because the clock will quickly become the enemy of the other team with the way our oline would be able to control the clock like it used to. This is why we should draft oline at 10. Either Sewell, if he falls to us, or Slater.
That's a long post furster!
 
In fact, I'll go one step further. The problem these last few years wasn't because we used high picks to address the oline. The problem was that we didn't take advantage of HAVING the oline. We failed to address dline at critical junctures. We failed to address safety when needed. Had we addressed what have been glaring weaknesses when we had the opportunities, our team would be MUCH further along and would've contended for at least one Super Bowl of late. Yet, we monkeyed about and completely botched so many opportunities. Jaylon Smith, LVE, Taco, and Hill (though, he did show some improvement last year). Those are NOT the fault of going oline at high picks as much as we did. Those are POOR draft decisions of themselves that failed to take advantage of a team that was primed for success if those positions would've been addressed better. Let's go back through those times and have a look at what could've been. Instead of taking Jaylon, let's say we took Myles Jack as a lot of people wanted. Better LB than Jaylon. Then, the next year, we selected Taco Charlton. Let's say we went with a different option at dline. I can't quite remember who all was available, but I'm sure we could've found a better option than Taco. I think Malcolm Brown was available. Let's say we took him instead. That would've given us a powerful DT who could stop the run. So, now we'd be able to stop the run better. The following year was LVE's selection. Let's say we take a different LB, not quite sure who was available at the time, but let's say we went a different direction. Perhaps we would've had a more reliable LB. Then, let's say we still made the trade for Cooper. The improving team, all the while the records are likely better than they have been because our defence would've been better, would've led to us probably taking Thornhill instead of Hill because Brown would've negated the need to take Hill. So, now we've addressed safety in a more meaningful way. This would've led to our team having a rock solid defence. Who knows where our team would be if we went this route, but I'd imagine it'd have been much better than it is now. Therefore, I don't think the problem has been that we invested heavily in our oline. The problem is we didn't capitalise on the opportunity that was available.
 
Agreed, Dak gets scared easily. I hope we get Sewell so Dak won't get scared like in the Atlanta game.
Not sure if he's always been scared, or if it's the after-effect of the beat down in Panama.
 
I'd take Sewell over Pitts all day long. I'm all for going for a stronger line. WFT has invested well in their DL and I see it paying off.

Not to be the spelling police but I saw it just too many times Defense is with an "s".

I like the OL argument and support it 100%:thumbup:
 
Well that's a lot of words but I'll just say I agree, OL in round 1 is fine by me.

That being said I hope we don't have the opportunity for Slater or Sewell and we get an OL later.

But if we do, I'm fine with it
 
Collins has a bad hip.

Hip cartilage wears out.

if he can’t play, then we have to go with Steele again.

Good point. In that case, we may be at a point where we have to retool our oline then. Again, because we didn't take advantage of having a great one. Now we're back to needing to tool it instead of maintaining it.
 

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