The Cowboys defense since Parsons trade

[CWR]

It sucks we had to lose Parsons for a catalyst to improve the defense, but this is how they operate.

To be clear im still very happy with the net results of roster building and coaching additions.

Im just not a big believer we could have one or the other.

 

[Kwyn]

Who said we got 10....lol

Sorry 11

Traded for Quinnen Williams
Traded for Dee Winters
Signed Jalen Thompson
Signed Cobie Durant
Signed PJ Locke
Signed two run stuffing DTs
Drafted Caleb Downs
Drafted Malachi Lawerence
Drafted Jashawn Barham
Signed Von Miller

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Just my take but true Parsons trade did not bring a multitude a players per se. But what it did do it allowed us to rebuild the defense around several quality leaders versus one dominant leader making $40 million a year.

I'm not sure several leaders We now have on the defense with the team if Parsons still here.
Just my opinion

 

[Jarntt]

The really crazy thing is that other than Lawrence we could have done all of that without trading Micah. Well, we obviously wouldn't have done Miller

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Sorry 11

Traded for Quinnen Williams
Traded for Dee Winters
Signed Jalen Thompson
Signed Cobie Durant
Signed PJ Locke
Signed two run stuffing DTs
Drafted Caleb Downs
Drafted Malachi Lawerence
Drafted Jashawn Barham
Signed Von Miller

Oh you mean OP...... I don't see that as what he's saying. He's saying since Parsons been traded here the new players that have been brought in. And he's right....
So I'm not sure your point

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The really crazy thing is that other than Lawrence we could have done all of that without trading Micah. Well, we obviously wouldn't have done Miller

We used capital to get Quinnen.

 

[Kwyn]

Oh you mean OP...... I don't see that as what he's saying. He's saying since Parsons been traded here the new players that have been brought in. And he's right....
So I'm not sure your point

I was replying to LouBrown who was commenting that all of these moves could have been accomplished without Parsons being traded.

 

[LouBrown]

Your math. Not the real math.

Lol nope. I'll do it again, just for you. Cap hits are cap hits.

2025 Cap hit out as UFA:
Donovan Wilson - $8.6
Kenneth Murray - $7.5
Dante Fowler - $6
Jalen Tolbert - $3.6
Jadaveon Clowney - $3.5
Logan Wilson - $2.8
Total: $29m
Cap increase: $21m

2026 Cap hit in:
Quennin Williams - $8.5
Rashan Gary - $5.7
Caleb Downs - $5.2
Von Miller - $5.5
Jalen Thompson - $4.6
Coby Durant - $4
PJ Locke - $4
Dee Winters - $3.7
Otito Ogbonnia - $2.4
Total: $43.6

$50 > $43.6 last time I checked.

This doesn't even account for things they didn't do like extending Pickens.

 

[Jarntt]

We used capital to get Quinnen.

Why do people keep saying that. We used this years 2 and a 1 next year. We had those either way. The "better of" wasn't going to keep the deal from getting done

 

[LouBrown]

We used capital to get Quinnen.

Nope.

 

[Stash]

Lol nope. I'll do it again, just for you. Cap hits are cap hits.

2025 Cap hit out as UFA:
Donovan Wilson - $8.6
Kenneth Murray - $7.5
Dante Fowler - $6
Jalen Tolbert - $3.6
Jadaveon Clowney - $3.5
Logan Wilson - $2.8
Total: $29m
Cap increase: $21m

2026 Cap hit in:
Quennin Williams - $8.5
Rashan Gary - $5.7
Caleb Downs - $5.2
Von Miller - $5.5
Jalen Thompson - $4.6
Coby Durant - $4
PJ Locke - $4
Dee Winters - $3.7
Otito Ogbonnia - $2.4
Total: $43.6

$50 > $43.6 last time I checked.

This doesn't even account for things they didn't do like extending Pickens.

And cap hits are more than one year.

Fail.

Again.

 

[Jarntt]

Lol nope. I'll do it again, just for you. Cap hits are cap hits.

2025 Cap hit out as UFA:
Donovan Wilson - $8.6
Kenneth Murray - $7.5
Dante Fowler - $6
Jalen Tolbert - $3.6
Jadaveon Clowney - $3.5
Logan Wilson - $2.8
Total: $29m
Cap increase: $21m

2026 Cap hit in:
Quennin Williams - $8.5
Rashan Gary - $5.7
Caleb Downs - $5.2
Von Miller - $5.5
Jalen Thompson - $4.6
Coby Durant - $4
PJ Locke - $4
Dee Winters - $3.7
Otito Ogbonnia - $2.4
Total: $43.6

$50 > $43.6 last time I checked.

This doesn't even account for things they didn't do like extending Pickens.

And if we kept Micah there is realistically no $5.5M for Von Miller if that is part of the discussion.
Right now we have $18.1M in cap space. Micah's cap hit is $19.2. That's a blink away from covering. But we wouldn't likely have traded for Gary and his $5.7M either so that puts us under again and that's with Pickens still on the tag

 

[LouBrown]

And if we kept Micah there is realistically no $5.5M for Von Miller if that is part of the discussion.
Right now we have $18.1M in cap space. Micah's cap hit is $19.2. That's a blink away from covering. But we wouldn't likely have traded for Gary and his $5.7M either so that puts us under again and that's with Pickens still on the tag

Well yea you're saving ~$15m on Gary, Miller, and Lawrence is Micah is still here.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I was replying to LouBrown who was commenting that all of these moves could have been accomplished without Parsons being traded.

Okay

 

[LouBrown]

And cap hits are more than one year.

Fail.

Again.

Doesn't matter. Cap hits only get lighter because the cap goes up, and we are only talking about one year anyway.

You're arguing with numbers lol.

 

[Stash]

Doesn't matter. Cap hits only get lighter because the cap goes up, and we are only talking about one year anyway.

You're arguing with numbers lol.

No, I’m arguing with you and your infamous, worthless, cherry-picked numbers.

 

[Hadenough]

After Micah’s first season being a star they should have surrounded him with all this talent while he was ona rookie contract.

 

[Jarntt]

Well yea you're saving ~$15m on Gary, Miller, and Lawrence is Micah is still here.

Yes, take Lawrence off too

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Lol nope. I'll do it again, just for you. Cap hits are cap hits.

2025 Cap hit out as UFA:
Donovan Wilson - $8.6
Kenneth Murray - $7.5
Dante Fowler - $6
Jalen Tolbert - $3.6
Jadaveon Clowney - $3.5
Logan Wilson - $2.8
Total: $29m
Cap increase: $21m

2026 Cap hit in:
Quennin Williams - $8.5
Rashan Gary - $5.7
Caleb Downs - $5.2
Von Miller - $5.5
Jalen Thompson - $4.6
Coby Durant - $4
PJ Locke - $4
Dee Winters - $3.7
Otito Ogbonnia - $2.4
Total: $43.6

$50 > $43.6 last time I checked.

This doesn't even account for things they didn't do like extending Pickens.

I think the point being missed here is regardless of the money or cap Jerry no longer wanted Parsons on the team.
If he did I'm pretty sure he could have made it work just like you said.... But none of that matters because they wanted him off the team.

 

[zrinkill]