The cowboys will shock the nfl this year!

[5Stars]

Quarterback play is vastly overrated in the moder era?? Sorry, totally disagree with that. You also need to look at the team around the QB. That defense at times was awful. Moreover, if Cooper Rush played even one full season in Dallas, it would have been a disaster. He is a back-up QB period. Comparing him to Dak is laughable.

Well, you better enjoy Dakky Poo while he is still here because he won't last this season, He is toast, mentally and physically. You can worship him all you want, but, the end is near. Good for the Cowboys.

 

[gtb1943]

Quarterback play is vastly overrated in the moder era?? Sorry, totally disagree with that. You also need to look at the team around the QB. That defense at times was awful. Moreover, if Cooper Rush played even one full season in Dallas, it would have been a disaster. He is a back-up QB period. Comparing him to Dak is laughable.

comparing Dak to any of the top QBs is laughable

 

[thunderpimp91]

Quarterback play is vastly overrated in the moder era?? Sorry, totally disagree with that. You also need to look at the team around the QB. That defense at times was awful. Moreover, if Cooper Rush played even one full season in Dallas, it would have been a disaster. He is a back-up QB period. Comparing him to Dak is laughable.

This isnt a Rush vs Dak thing at all. Dak is 1000% a better overall QB than Rush. What I'm saying is that it didn't effect the win column. I even look at the super bowl teams from last year. Did either team make it there because of the QB play? Not really. Not saying that either QB played bad last year as that would be false, but both of those teams rode their defenses to the big game, and most super bowl teams do. Had Brock Purdy been drafted to Cleveland he may not even be in the league at this point. Put him on a super bowl caliber SF team and hes an MVP candidate. Nick Foles didnt win a super bowl because he was a great QB....he just had a loaded roster. Stafford could barely make the playoffs in Detroit....wins a super bowl with a team that went all in in LA. I really don't care what people think about Eli Manning, the guy won two super bowls mostly because of an elite DL. Baker Mayfield couldn't stay on a roster a couple years ago, now hes made back to back playoff appearances now that he has latched on to a decent organization. Similar situation with Darnold. Goff wasn't viewed as anything special when he was traded to Detroit, but now that they've built that roster up he puts up top QB numbers again.

I get it offense sells so the league pumps those guys up year after year, but there is a significant correlation between winning at this level and not giving up more than 20 points in a game. QBs typically sell the most tickets and merch so they get the glory, but a heavy chunk of their success is dependent upon the other 10 guys on the field.

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

This isnt a Rush vs Dak thing at all. Dak is 1000% a better overall QB than Rush. What I'm saying is that it didn't effect the win column. I even look at the super bowl teams from last year. Did either team make it there because of the QB play? Not really. Not saying that either QB played bad last year as that would be false, but both of those teams rode their defenses to the big game, and most super bowl teams do. Had Brock Purdy been drafted to Cleveland he may not even be in the league at this point. Put him on a super bowl caliber SF team and hes an MVP candidate. Nick Foles didnt win a super bowl because he was a great QB....he just had a loaded roster. Stafford could barely make the playoffs in Detroit....wins a super bowl with a team that went all in in LA. I really don't care what people think about Eli Manning, the guy won two super bowls mostly because of an elite DL. Baker Mayfield couldn't stay on a roster a couple years ago, now hes made back to back playoff appearances now that he has latched on to a decent organization. Similar situation with Darnold. Goff wasn't viewed as anything special when he was traded to Detroit, but now that they've built that roster up he puts up top QB numbers again.

I get it offense sells so the league pumps those guys up year after year, but there is a significant correlation between winning at this level and not giving up more than 20 points in a game. QBs typically sell the most tickets and merch so they get the glory, but a heavy chunk of their success is dependent upon the other 10 guys on the field.

Dak is a better QB only when he plays within himself (not going gunslinger). A below average QB can be efficient if runs the offense well.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Dak is a better QB only when he plays within himself (not going gunslinger). A below average QB can be efficient if runs the offense well.

Agree completely. Its nice to have the gunslinger ability as occasionally you need it. I think back to like the 2023 game against Seattle, Cooper Rush isnt winning that game for you, but Dak gives you a chance. 90% of the time though we need Dak to play as a better form of Cooper Rush (Style wise) rather than sitting in the shotgun all day and slinging it 40+ times.

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

Agree completely. Its nice to have the gunslinger ability as occasionally you need it. I think back to like the 2023 game against Seattle, Cooper Rush isnt winning that game for you, but Dak gives you a chance. 90% of the time though we need Dak to play as a better form of Cooper Rush (Style wise) rather than sitting in the shotgun all day and slinging it 40+ times.

I'm still convinced that Dak's contract was the two edge sword that paid him well but forces him to be an elite QB (since you can't invest in better players around him due to his contract).

 

[blueblood70]

I'm still convinced that Dak's contract was the two edge sword that paid him well but forces him to be an elite QB (since you can't invest in better players around him due to his contract).

That's still wrong other teams have done it jalen hurts makes $50 million and has two wide receivers making big money I mean they even overpaid for their tight end it's not producing well but they did they have an elite defense that went with it I mean where is this coming from if a team really wanted to they can afford it but let's just go here,

If they didn't want to get his weapons and free agency or overpay for them that's easy you could have took a running back and order wide receiver or both higher than you did you could have got better ones in the draft on a cheap rookie contract other teams have done that as well but Joe Burroughs just got paid and they just paid both their receivers or two of the highest paid number ones and number twos in the league..

So if the Cowboys wanted to they could put better players around Prescott it's not about his contract I realize he makes more than them but it's not that much more not when it's spread out not when it just got restructured not when the cane is kicked way down the line and not when they have about $30 million right now available to them on the salary cap.

So let's just hope they are not done maybe they're leaving a little bit of money it's even after Parsons get paid it should free up even more so let's just say they have $36 million to play with before September.

Let's just hope they're going to look at what they got in camp they're going to see a little bit of what's going on in the preseason they're going to wait till they see teams about to do cut bounds and get rid of a maybe better receiver and or 1 of these running backs that are still available and they'll beat they'll bring them in they have the money to do it I mean if it's only going to cost them a 5th round pick like it did Brandon Cooks and Gilmore they're going to add more players to this team before September at least that's my gut feeling if they don't like what they see first they're going to give this group a chance to show what they got and then they'll make moves when they need to...

But I'm tired of hearing about how they don't have the money they have the money right now if they wanted to spend it they wanted to go all in if they wanted to blow up the cap 2 or three years from now which is probably going to happen anyway because of Prescott and some other contracts with the dead cap they could do it if they wanted to they're uncomfortable doing it....

 

[gtb1943]

Dak is a better QB only when he plays within himself (not going gunslinger). A below average QB can be efficient if runs the offense well.

look at some of the QBs that have rings like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. They were bus drivers that did just enough

 

[TexasBacon]

look at some of the QBs that have rings like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. They were bus drivers that did just enough

It's certainly possible for Dak to get hot and have one of his "MVP-esque" streaks at the right time for once. If he were to play at the highest level we've seen him play at for the right duration of time/games he is certainly capable of leading the team to a title. The problem is the "Deer in Headlights" Dak always seems to rear his head after winning one game against a good team in the playoffs. Once the pressure is on against good teams, it's all over.

I really want to root for Dak and know there have been outliers like Brees who have taken a decade to make a run. But between his consistent issues against good teams and the Front Office refusing to go anywhere close to all in and put significant weapons all around him it's just so unlikely to actually happen. I just hope it's one extreme or another, and not another Divisional Round bust. I hope he either sucks terribly so we have a shot at Manning or gets to the NFCC.

 

[blueblood70]

Dak is a better QB only when he plays within himself (not going gunslinger). A below average QB can be efficient if runs the offense well.

Problem here is stop calling Prescott average or below average that's nonsense yes it can run an offense well if everything else is great they didn't address the run game at all last year didn't even start committing till the run and get any offensive line right until Prescott was already injured they only have one weapon I wide receiver that could be truly called a weapon then they have just average guys there you want to call it average how about Tober he's average turfing he's average when we're talking about receivers our tight ends are average our tackles are average at best some of our interior delignment are average we have very few above average or elite players on this team especially on offense..

I don't wanna hear how Prescott's average or just above average this is a 32 team league with about 150 quarterbacks in it at minimum prescuts nowhere near the 16th starter he's been ranked in the top 10 almost his entire career he won rookie of the year he should have been the MVPA couple years back he's had seasons where he was in the top five that's not average at all that's not even close to what an average would mean in the NFL that means middle average means middle when you throw thirty-seven touchdowns and only 10 interceptions that's not average yes that happened a year after a season like we had last year where everyone got hurt including Prescott next year he comes out and has one of his best seasons..

These being asked at time to sit back in shotgun with only one true weapon and a very average coaching style calling very average plays and then all of a sudden the average name is stuck on his back versus where it really needs to land and that would be on the rest of the team..

Yes he's had great players at times ezekiel Elliott at one point for maybe three to four years of his career was great the offensive line for three or four years was above average and really good at sometimes we had an elite line his rookie year and we have had CD Lam have a Mari Cooper here and in those years he was a top five quarterback but the G m has failed to put those types of players consistently around him..

You don't even bother to get a wide receiver that was necessary and number two in the first three rounds this year that's all I need to hear they didn't bring in a quality free agent at wide receiver two either when they don't even bother to get a running back until the 5th round two years in a row just let a whole bunch of good running backs go you don't have to afford a good one you don't have to go out and get Derek Henry you don't have to pay Saquon Barkley but you at least need to give Prescott some quality players because we've seen what he can do when he has those types of players around him like nearly 1 year three wide receivers nearly have 1000 yards that's so far from average stop using that word with him yes the team's been average but he's not average....


He's a top 10 quarterback that with enough talent around him could be a top five quarterback that's the truth that's a fact and I don't want to hear about anything else i'm not calling this guy elite but I'm tired of hearing the word average when he's mentioned and it's not even true you put him on that Eagles team and he also wins the Super Bowl you put him on that Rams team he also wins a Super Bowl that's a fact I mean you see a guy like Matthew Stafford not have to change he just goes to the Rams leads the league in interceptions throws two interceptions in the Super Bowl and it didn't matter they won anyway...


That's the difference you put a good enough team around Prescott and he can play like that.... So yes you can win with a guy like Prescott but when you ask too much of him and you don't give him enough talent on a regular basis he and Romo will forever be blamed for all our problems and it's not the problem the quarterback has not been the problem..

 

[gtb1943]

Problem here is stop calling Prescott average or below average that's nonsense yes it can run an offense well if everything else is great they didn't address the run game at all last year didn't even start committing till the run and get any offensive line right until Prescott was already injured they only have one weapon I wide receiver that could be truly called a weapon then they have just average guys there you want to call it average how about Tober he's average turfing he's average when we're talking about receivers our tight ends are average our tackles are average at best some of our interior delignment are average we have very few above average or elite players on this team especially on offense..

I don't wanna hear how Prescott's average or just above average this is a 32 team league with about 150 quarterbacks in it at minimum prescuts nowhere near the 16th starter he's been ranked in the top 10 almost his entire career he won rookie of the year he should have been the MVPA couple years back he's had seasons where he was in the top five that's not average at all that's not even close to what an average would mean in the NFL that means middle average means middle when you throw thirty-seven touchdowns and only 10 interceptions that's not average yes that happened a year after a season like we had last year where everyone got hurt including Prescott next year he comes out and has one of his best seasons..

These being asked at time to sit back in shotgun with only one true weapon and a very average coaching style calling very average plays and then all of a sudden the average name is stuck on his back versus where it really needs to land and that would be on the rest of the team..

Yes he's had great players at times ezekiel Elliott at one point for maybe three to four years of his career was great the offensive line for three or four years was above average and really good at sometimes we had an elite line his rookie year and we have had CD Lam have a Mari Cooper here and in those years he was a top five quarterback but the G m has failed to put those types of players consistently around him..

You don't even bother to get a wide receiver that was necessary and number two in the first three rounds this year that's all I need to hear they didn't bring in a quality free agent at wide receiver two either when they don't even bother to get a running back until the 5th round two years in a row just let a whole bunch of good running backs go you don't have to afford a good one you don't have to go out and get Derek Henry you don't have to pay Saquon Barkley but you at least need to give Prescott some quality players because we've seen what he can do when he has those types of players around him like nearly 1 year three wide receivers nearly have 1000 yards that's so far from average stop using that word with him yes the team's been average but he's not average....


He's a top 10 quarterback that with enough talent around him could be a top five quarterback that's the truth that's a fact and I don't want to hear about anything else i'm not calling this guy elite but I'm tired of hearing the word average when he's mentioned and it's not even true you put him on that Eagles team and he also wins the Super Bowl you put him on that Rams team he also wins a Super Bowl that's a fact I mean you see a guy like Matthew Stafford not have to change he just goes to the Rams leads the league in interceptions throws two interceptions in the Super Bowl and it didn't matter they won anyway...


That's the difference you put a good enough team around Prescott and he can play like that.... So yes you can win with a guy like Prescott but when you ask too much of him and you don't give him enough talent on a regular basis he and Romo will forever be blamed for all our problems and it's not the problem the quarterback has not been the problem..

compare his playoff stats to the other QBs in the playoffs
there he is average

 

[5Stars]

Problem here is stop calling Prescott average or below average that's nonsense yes it can run an offense well if everything else is great they didn't address the run game at all last year didn't even start committing till the run and get any offensive line right until Prescott was already injured they only have one weapon I wide receiver that could be truly called a weapon then they have just average guys there you want to call it average how about Tober he's average turfing he's average when we're talking about receivers our tight ends are average our tackles are average at best some of our interior delignment are average we have very few above average or elite players on this team especially on offense..

I don't wanna hear how Prescott's average or just above average this is a 32 team league with about 150 quarterbacks in it at minimum prescuts nowhere near the 16th starter he's been ranked in the top 10 almost his entire career he won rookie of the year he should have been the MVPA couple years back he's had seasons where he was in the top five that's not average at all that's not even close to what an average would mean in the NFL that means middle average means middle when you throw thirty-seven touchdowns and only 10 interceptions that's not average yes that happened a year after a season like we had last year where everyone got hurt including Prescott next year he comes out and has one of his best seasons..

These being asked at time to sit back in shotgun with only one true weapon and a very average coaching style calling very average plays and then all of a sudden the average name is stuck on his back versus where it really needs to land and that would be on the rest of the team..

Yes he's had great players at times ezekiel Elliott at one point for maybe three to four years of his career was great the offensive line for three or four years was above average and really good at sometimes we had an elite line his rookie year and we have had CD Lam have a Mari Cooper here and in those years he was a top five quarterback but the G m has failed to put those types of players consistently around him..

You don't even bother to get a wide receiver that was necessary and number two in the first three rounds this year that's all I need to hear they didn't bring in a quality free agent at wide receiver two either when they don't even bother to get a running back until the 5th round two years in a row just let a whole bunch of good running backs go you don't have to afford a good one you don't have to go out and get Derek Henry you don't have to pay Saquon Barkley but you at least need to give Prescott some quality players because we've seen what he can do when he has those types of players around him like nearly 1 year three wide receivers nearly have 1000 yards that's so far from average stop using that word with him yes the team's been average but he's not average....


He's a top 10 quarterback that with enough talent around him could be a top five quarterback that's the truth that's a fact and I don't want to hear about anything else i'm not calling this guy elite but I'm tired of hearing the word average when he's mentioned and it's not even true you put him on that Eagles team and he also wins the Super Bowl you put him on that Rams team he also wins a Super Bowl that's a fact I mean you see a guy like Matthew Stafford not have to change he just goes to the Rams leads the league in interceptions throws two interceptions in the Super Bowl and it didn't matter they won anyway...


That's the difference you put a good enough team around Prescott and he can play like that.... So yes you can win with a guy like Prescott but when you ask too much of him and you don't give him enough talent on a regular basis he and Romo will forever be blamed for all our problems and it's not the problem the quarterback has not been the problem..

lmao...that was cool. Can you say that again, please?
smdh

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

look at some of the QBs that have rings like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. They were bus drivers that did just enough

It can be done with guys like Dilfer or Johnson, its just extremely rare. Dak isn't a bus driver IMO, but more of a play action QB. The cowboys have really not managed the RB room very well the last few years.

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

Problem here is stop calling Prescott average or below average that's nonsense yes it can run an offense well if everything else is great they didn't address the run game at all last year didn't even start committing till the run and get any offensive line right until Prescott was already injured they only have one weapon I wide receiver that could be truly called a weapon then they have just average guys there you want to call it average how about Tober he's average turfing he's average when we're talking about receivers our tight ends are average our tackles are average at best some of our interior delignment are average we have very few above average or elite players on this team especially on offense..

I don't wanna hear how Prescott's average or just above average this is a 32 team league with about 150 quarterbacks in it at minimum prescuts nowhere near the 16th starter he's been ranked in the top 10 almost his entire career he won rookie of the year he should have been the MVPA couple years back he's had seasons where he was in the top five that's not average at all that's not even close to what an average would mean in the NFL that means middle average means middle when you throw thirty-seven touchdowns and only 10 interceptions that's not average yes that happened a year after a season like we had last year where everyone got hurt including Prescott next year he comes out and has one of his best seasons..

These being asked at time to sit back in shotgun with only one true weapon and a very average coaching style calling very average plays and then all of a sudden the average name is stuck on his back versus where it really needs to land and that would be on the rest of the team..

Yes he's had great players at times ezekiel Elliott at one point for maybe three to four years of his career was great the offensive line for three or four years was above average and really good at sometimes we had an elite line his rookie year and we have had CD Lam have a Mari Cooper here and in those years he was a top five quarterback but the G m has failed to put those types of players consistently around him..

You don't even bother to get a wide receiver that was necessary and number two in the first three rounds this year that's all I need to hear they didn't bring in a quality free agent at wide receiver two either when they don't even bother to get a running back until the 5th round two years in a row just let a whole bunch of good running backs go you don't have to afford a good one you don't have to go out and get Derek Henry you don't have to pay Saquon Barkley but you at least need to give Prescott some quality players because we've seen what he can do when he has those types of players around him like nearly 1 year three wide receivers nearly have 1000 yards that's so far from average stop using that word with him yes the team's been average but he's not average....


He's a top 10 quarterback that with enough talent around him could be a top five quarterback that's the truth that's a fact and I don't want to hear about anything else i'm not calling this guy elite but I'm tired of hearing the word average when he's mentioned and it's not even true you put him on that Eagles team and he also wins the Super Bowl you put him on that Rams team he also wins a Super Bowl that's a fact I mean you see a guy like Matthew Stafford not have to change he just goes to the Rams leads the league in interceptions throws two interceptions in the Super Bowl and it didn't matter they won anyway...


That's the difference you put a good enough team around Prescott and he can play like that.... So yes you can win with a guy like Prescott but when you ask too much of him and you don't give him enough talent on a regular basis he and Romo will forever be blamed for all our problems and it's not the problem the quarterback has not been the problem..

I feel like Romo and Prescott are a bit the same, really good QB's that flash elite in stretches and are often asked to do too much. Both QB's biggest issue were injuries and inexplicable turnovers in big games. Dak and Romo have also been betrayed by really poor defenses in playoff games. So in no way is Dallas not winning a superbowl just because we haven't had Brett Favre or Peyton Manning under center.

 

[shabazz]

Ah to all those that can read this but I'm telling you I'm not reading yours because I have a lot of you want to ignore because I don't want your opinion your opinions are why I'm hosting this very thing and I hope it triggered everyone i'm not reading a single one of your posts so if you're reading this it's possible that I'm not reading your responses if you're not giving a response for me it means that's the very reason you're on my ignore list......

I don't want to hear about your Debbie Downer negative opinions that are all not fact based you just going on your own opinions of what you think you saw last year and what you think might happen this year but none of you and Nostradamus so I'm going to stick with my crazy prediction and you could stick with all your negative Debbie Downer posts how about you know how everything is going to be even worse this year than last year and Jerry's in trouble and the stadiums are going to be half empty and we're going to be on no primetime games and the Cowboys will no longer ever be relative again and we're never going to a Super Bowl ever and we're the only team in the history of sports to ever have a 30 year drought OMG the sky has definitely following well on your heads apparently..

This post tells us alot about this member and his character.

Almost all of us are here because we want to not only give our opinions but more importantly hear the opinions of OTHER fans.

Apparently this guy only wants to be heard and read others ONLY if they agree with him......pathetic, really.

Sounds like the owner

 

[fivetwos]

Simple, really.

They are NOT a 3-4 win team.

They are also NOT a SB contender.

They are nestled perfectly in between, and that will not change until this FO realizes that their approach doesn’t work.

Don’t go trying to tell entitled billionaire egomaniac narcissists that anything they do could be wrong.

 

[DrlabonAggiesCowboys]

Simple, really.

They are NOT a 3-4 win team.

They are also NOT a SB contender.

They are nestled perfectly in between, and that will not change until this FO realizes that their approach doesn’t work.

Don’t go trying to tell entitled billionaire egomaniac narcissists that anything they do could be wrong.

Exactly...The owner doesn't seem interested in fielding a superbowl caliber team, otherwise he would have long ago hired GM's and Coaches that would been better at running the team.

One wonders how events would have turned out if Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, or Bruce Arians would been named as head coach instead of Phillips in 2007.

 

[mote]

Exactly...The owner doesn't seem interested in fielding a superbowl caliber team, otherwise he would have long ago hired GM's and Coaches that would been better at running the team.

One wonders how events would have turned out if Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, or Bruce Arians would been named as head coach instead of Phillips in 2007.

Or went after Andy Reid when the Eagles cut ties in 2012.