The Dak Prescott thread **merged**

[River82]

It was a poor throw, innacurate, however you want to label it. Whether you sugarcoat it with "Well it wasn't perfect" - it was off the mark, too high and to the left, and helped cause a tip drill.

Thank you for reluctantly admitting it.

If you define "poor" as "not perfect" than you have language issues, btw.

 

[TimHortons]

Honestly, if he doesn't throw high and outside to T Will (sure, it was catchable, but tough especially when your WR has to leave his feet to even get his hands on the high and outside throw) we win. Throwing high and outside means if your receiver doesn't catch it, that ball is careening UP into the air and is ripe for a pickoff. If you are gonna miss, miss low.

You must be joking. You're blaming Dak for that? Any competent receiver makes that catch. Williams was twisting his body to catch it with his chest. That is a routine pitch and catch in high school football.

 

[tyke1doe]

Are you or will you see it and just pretend what I've described didn't happen?

You can even say Williams was the bigger problem on that play, just admit, it was a poorly thrown ball. LOL

What page is it on? I'd like to see it. Thanks.

 

[HungryLion]

It was a poor throw, innacurate, however you want to label it. Whether you sugarcoat it with "Well it wasn't perfect" - it was off the mark, too high and to the left, and helped cause a tip drill.

Thank you for reluctantly admitting it.

I didn’t admit it at all. Clearly your reading comprehension is very poor.

Sorry, I know you won’t understand that last sentence, because you also clearly don’t know what poor means.

 

[mattjames2010]

What page is it on? I'd like to see it. Thanks.

2-3, I believe.

The argument here is that people are saying it was catchable - it was "catchable", but Dak made the throw higher risk than it needed to be. He read the LB correctly and didn't want him to jump the route, but because of that, it was high and to the left of Williams.

 

[River82]

2-3, I believe.

The argument here is that people are saying it was catchable - it was "catchable", but Dak made the throw higher risk than it needed to be. He read the LB correctly and didn't want him to jump the route, but because of that, it was high and to the left of Williams.

Every QB who throws any ball that isn't 100% on the chest of a moving target 100% of the time will be throwing balls that are "higher risk than they need to be". That you are using this standard to judge Dak is disingenuous at best.

Williams was at fault for that interception.

 

[mattjames2010]

What page is it on? I'd like to see it. Thanks.

8:07

 

[Echo9]

Wrong it's been done several times to win games

Please find one single example when a team is down by 4 or more (being more than a fg). I'm not outright saying that you are making things up, but I do not remember ever seeing this, or even hearing about it. I don't need the several you say have happened. Just one.

You can even include college if you'd like, although that wouldn't be as strong of an argument for your idea.
I can imagine it's happened when a FG would win the game or team with the ball is tied or up by a few. But never when a TD is needed to take the lead.

 

[HungryLion]

Every QB who throws any ball that isn't 100% on the chest of a moving target 100% of the time will be throwing balls that are "higher risk than they need to be". That you are using this standard to judge Dak is disingenuous at best.

Williams was at fault for that interception.

Exactly.

 

[mrmojo]

Anyone who's arguing Dak was at fault for the Williams interception, partially or otherwise, is either ignorant or has an agenda.

Agenda...a lot of posters coming out of the woodwork..

 

[mattjames2010]

Every QB who throws any ball that isn't 100% on the chest of a moving target 100% of the time will be throwing balls that are "higher risk than they need to be". That you are using this standard to judge Dak is disingenuous at best.

Williams was at fault for that interception.

Bad argument is bad. Williams wasn't moving, he did a short stop and turn, Dak through it slightly too high and to the left of Williams. It got slightly tipped because of this and went into the arms of a defender.

Thanks for playing, but welcome to the party pal.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Bad argument is bad. Williams wasn't moving, he did a short stop and turn, Dak through it slightly too high and to the left of Williams. It got slightly tipped because of this and went into the arms of a defender.

Thanks for playing, but welcome to the party pal.

It wasn't 'tipped.'

Williams got BOTH hands on it. It went thru BOTH of his hands. There was no reason to not catch that and it was 100% on Williams.






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[River82]

Bad argument is bad. Williams wasn't moving, he did a short stop and turn, Dak through it slightly too high and to the left of Williams. It got slightly tipped because of this and went into the arms of a defender.

Thanks for playing, but welcome to the party pal.

I agree that your bad argument is bad. It's pretty funny you keep making it.

You are moving the goalposts emphasising that Williams was stationary. Your argument was that Dak made the pass "harder than it needed to be" and I'm telling you that it's the most ******** basis for judging a QB I've heard this decade.

If you want to know the real reason the ball was tipped - Williams had his hands facing the wrong way (to the sky) and completely out of position. In other words he misjudged the ball in flight. It was a 100% stuff up by Williams and was a regulation catch, Dak wasn't at fault on that play

 

[mattjames2010]

I agree that your bad argument is bad. It's pretty funny you keep making it.

You are moving the goalposts emphasising that Williams was stationary. Your argument was that Dak made the pass "harder than it needed to be" and I'm telling you that it's the most ******** basis for judging a QB I've heard this decade.

If you want to know the real reason the ball was tipped - Williams had his hands facing the wrong way (to the sky) and completely out of position. In other words he misjudged the ball in flight. It was a 100% stuff up by Williams and was a regulation catch, Dak wasn't at fault on that play

No goal post was moved

My argument has always been - Williams has bad hands, Prescott made a throw that should have been relatively routine into a higher risk throw. He was stationary, you try stating he was on the move, he wasn't.

Bad pass, bad on Williams as well. They both suck.

 

[River82]

Bad pass, bad on Williams as well. They both suck.

Off topic and away from the argument for a moment (as entertaining as it is,) you really have no idea just how badly Williams muffed that pass. It was extraordinary. He tried to catch a pass above his chest with his palms pointing to the sky, he was always going to have problems with that. That's really only secure for waist high or stomach passes. If you want to know why Williams made that little hop during the catch motion, it's precisely BECAUSE his hands were pointing to the sky and all of a sudden he knew the ball was too high for that catching motion, so the little hop was a natural instinct to try and negate that. I think (and I can't be certain of this) he has a fundamental technique problem. I might keep a close eye on him over the next few games.

 

[River82]

To have a good chance of catching a ball that high, fingers need to be pointing to the sky, not the palm. Really, really awful stuff from Williams

 

[HungryLion]

Since when is a shoulder height pass “too high”.

Lol

To have a good chance of catching a ball that high, fingers need to be pointing to the sky, not the palm. Really, really awful stuff from Williams

These are all things that kids learn in pee wee football. How to position your hands when catching s football. Williams can’t do it.

 

[HungryLion]

No goal post was moved

My argument has always been - Williams has bad hands, Prescott made a throw that should have been relatively routine into a higher risk throw. He was stationary, you try stating he was on the move, he wasn't.

Bad pass, bad on Williams as well. They both suck.

Lol now it’s “Williams has bad hands”.

So it’s Dak’s fault that his #2 receiver has bad hands?

Guys with bad hands shouldn’t be #2 receivers in the NFL, unless the rest of their skill set is dominant.

 

[mattjames2010]

Lol now it’s “Williams has bad hands”.

So it’s Dak’s fault that his #2 receiver has bad hands?

Guys with bad hands shouldn’t be #2 receivers in the NFL, unless the rest of their skill set is dominant.

A receiver can suck while a pass being bad...

...good lord, the debating skills around here.

 

[JBond]

1:18 on the clock. He should have gave himself up at the 1 yard line.
Rodgers never sees the field again.
That was our best chance to win

The idiotic pass call by the turd calling plays should be revisited.