The Danica Patrick Era dawns

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Doomsday101;3267644 said:
It takes Indy drives a while before they get accustom to driving NASCAR where knowing how to use the draft is much more critical than in the Indy league as well as the weight difference of the cars not to mention the difficulty of racing restrictor plate which they will deal with at Daytona when you are going 3 and 4 wide at 200 mph this is not something Indy drivers are accustom to.

It is also shows up in the race of champions series where all the best drives in all of racing go out and race cars that are more comparable with the NASCAR the NASCAR divers win that series each time

If you've ever watched IndyCar, she should be use to going 3 wide at 215 mph. Speed is not the problem. She's used to higher g-forces and having to react quicker. That won't be the problem.

IROC should have included racing in different disciplines like the Race of Champions does. NASCAR drivers tend to not fair as well in international competitions because that's not their comfort zone. When a driver changes discipline its not a comparison of leagues but a comparison of driver. Someone like Juan or Dario in 2008 grew up racing precise, quick cars where they've been taught to react quickly, shift precisely, hands here, hands there, point the nose directly. In NASCAR you're going to longer brake points, large body roll, liberal shifting points.
 

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kmp77;3268443 said:
Is her race on tv?
Was, I just got home from work and heard the announcers saying she had proven her driving skills.
 

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Just finished watching it. She did very well. She finished 6th and did a heck of a job after getting pinched down on the yellow line and spinning out. Went to pit road twice, fought her way back and finished 6th.

As for the people who say she sucks and can't drive, they don't know what they are talking about. To be in the discussion with the best in the world at what you do, is being a very good. It's just a jealous person who would deny her her due respect.
 

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Cajuncowboy;3268505 said:
Just finished watching it. She did very well. She finished 6th and did a heck of a job after getting pinched down on the yellow line and spinning out. Went to pit road twice, fought her way back and finished 6th.

As for the people who say she sucks and can't drive, they don't know what they are talking about. To be in the discussion with the best in the world at what you do, is being a very good. It's just a jealous person who would deny her her due respect.
No one said she can't drive. She just isn't very good and has proven it. She doesn't deserve all this hype for doing nothing. Reminds of Dale Jr.
 

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mldardy;3268521 said:
No one said she can't drive. She just isn't very good and has proven it. She doesn't deserve all this hype for doing nothing. Reminds of Dale Jr.

If you think she isn't very good you're crazy. You don't get to where they are at in the sport without having some talent. Does she deserve the hype? Who does? She has proven she can drive and drive well. Oh and she's a 27 year old female who has achieved a great deal of success.

Why anyone would want to try and degrade her accomplishments is beyond me.

Further, Your comparison to JR. is fair, but most try to compare him to his dad and that's just not fair to him either. And while I don't think he is one of the best Cup drivers, he is certainly one of the best drivers in the world. You can't get to that point without being one of the best.
 

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She is a top driver. Only total morons would deny that.
 

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burmafrd;3268577 said:
She is a top driver. Only total morons would deny that.
Top drivers actually win more than one race.
 

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Cajuncowboy;3268540 said:
If you think she isn't very good you're crazy. You don't get to where they are at in the sport without having some talent. Does she deserve the hype? Who does? She has proven she can drive and drive well. Oh and she's a 27 year old female who has achieved a great deal of success.

Why anyone would want to try and degrade her accomplishments is beyond me.

Further, Your comparison to JR. is fair, but most try to compare him to his dad and that's just not fair to him either. And while I don't think he is one of the best Cup drivers, he is certainly one of the best drivers in the world. You can't get to that point without being one of the best.
Well then I guess I am crazy along with a LOT of other people who think she isn't that good. What has she done to earn being a good driver. I never said she didn't have talent she isn't as good as the drivers she competes against. She hasn't achieved a great deal of success. How can you have a great deal of success without winning anything? That's the bottom line. Getting hype and being on commercials is great but when her career is over they are going to measure what she did in races. So far she hasn't done anything to get me to say she has had great success. She hasn't even had success except one time. Let me know when she actually does something relevant on the racetrack.
 

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mldardy;3268521 said:
No one said she can't drive. She just isn't very good and has proven it. She doesn't deserve all this hype for doing nothing. Reminds of Dale Jr.
How can you have a great deal of success without winning anything?
Maybe it was an oversite because Dale Jr has definately slipped the last three seasons but the comparisons with Danica aren't really valid. Especially given the criteria you yourself have decided to use when defining what good drivers are or are not. Jr has 18 career wins. That's more wins than current drivers Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Ryan Newman, Kevin Harvick and Kasey Kahne. It's more than legendary drivers Marvin Panch, Curtis Turner LeeRoy Yarbrough and Tim Richmond. It's the same number as Harry Gant, Matt Kenseth, Geoff Bodine and Neil Bonnett. You can make the win total 24 if you also count the non points races. In addition, he has won on every configuration NASCAR races on except a road course and he did that in the Busch Series. Because of his last name and the fact he hasn't won a season title yet, those numbers usually surprise folks who follow NASCAR. FYI
 

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mldardy;3268521 said:
She just isn't very good and has proven it. She doesn't deserve all this hype for doing nothing. Reminds of Dale Jr.

Scranton Tiger;3268645 said:
Jr has 18 career wins. That's more wins than current drivers Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Ryan Newman, Kevin Harvick and Kasey Kahne. It's more than legendary drivers Marvin Panch, Curtis Turner LeeRoy Yarbrough and Tim Richmond. It's the same number as Harry Gant, Matt Kenseth, Geoff Bodine and Neil Bonnett. You can make the win total 24 if you also count the non points races. In addition, he has won on every configuration NASCAR races on except a road course and he did that in the Busch Series.
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Scranton Tiger;3268645 said:
Maybe it was an oversite because Dale Jr has definately slipped the last three seasons but the comparisons with Danica aren't really valid. Especially given the criteria you yourself have decided to use when defining what good drivers are or are not. Jr has 18 career wins. That's more wins than current drivers Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Ryan Newman, Kevin Harvick and Kasey Kahne. It's more than legendary drivers Marvin Panch, Curtis Turner LeeRoy Yarbrough and Tim Richmond. It's the same number as Harry Gant, Matt Kenseth, Geoff Bodine and Neil Bonnett. You can make the win total 24 if you also count the non points races. In addition, he has won on every configuration NASCAR races on except a road course and he did that in the Busch Series. Because of his last name and the fact he hasn't won a season title yet, those numbers usually surprise folks who follow NASCAR. FYI
This is a great breakdown of Dale Jr's career but that is NOT what I was getting at with my comparison. My comparisions to Danica were in terms of hype, overhype and overexposure. Not how many wins Dale Jr. has.
 

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mldardy;3268521 said:
No one said she can't drive. She just isn't very good and has proven it. She doesn't deserve all this hype for doing nothing. Reminds of Dale Jr.

Scranton Tiger;3268645 said:
Maybe it was an oversite because Dale Jr has definately slipped the last three seasons but the comparisons with Danica aren't really valid. Especially given the criteria you yourself have decided to use when defining what good drivers are or are not. Jr has 18 career wins. That's more wins than current drivers Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Ryan Newman, Kevin Harvick and Kasey Kahne. It's more than legendary drivers Marvin Panch, Curtis Turner LeeRoy Yarbrough and Tim Richmond. It's the same number as Harry Gant, Matt Kenseth, Geoff Bodine and Neil Bonnett. You can make the win total 24 if you also count the non points races. In addition, he has won on every configuration NASCAR races on except a road course and he did that in the Busch Series. Because of his last name and the fact he hasn't won a season title yet, those numbers usually surprise folks who follow NASCAR. FYI
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mldardy;3268726 said:
This is a great breakdown of Dale Jr's career but that is NOT what I was getting at with my comparison. My comparisions to Danica were in terms of hype, overhype and overexposure. Not how many wins Dale Jr. has.

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burmafrd;3268577 said:
She is a top driver. Only total morons would deny that.

If she is a top driver then what would you call the rest of the field in ARCA?...Top drivers don't race NASCAR. I will give you the fact that there maybe a few NASCAR guys that are extremely over qualified for their chosen line of work but the top drivers, well they race in F1 not NASCAR.
 

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She is being smart and not jumping into NASCAR right at the top. Idiots that keep claiming she is not a top driver are either against her because she is a woman or just being stupid because of all the coverage. She does have the talent, that is clear. It will take a year or two to judge how good at NASCAR she will be. ANYONE claiming they know now are total morons.
 
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