The defensive front seven rotation snaps and numbers

honyock

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Here are the (very unofficial) breakdowns for the front 7 defensive rotations vs Tenn.

I counted 49 defensive snaps. I haven’t checked this against the official numbers so I may be off on some snaps that weren’t official due to penalties:

Dallas only had 8 snaps in their base defense, the other 41 were in nickel. So that’s 84% of the snaps in the nickel.

Linebackers: Base was Hitchens, McClain and Carter on all 8.

Of the 41 nickel snaps, it was Carter and McClain for all but one. Carter was in for all 41, and McClain was in for all but the very last snap with less than 30 seconds left, when Hitchens came in for the final play.


Now, the d-line. First, the total snaps by player, not broken down by position:

Mincey...........35 (came all over the line)
T Crawford....28 (mostly at LE)
Hayden..........27
Melton............27
T. McClain.....18
Coleman........19 (All but 2 of those in the second half)
Selvie.............21 (All at LE)
Wilber.............11 (All at RE)
J. Crawford......8 (All but 1 at RE)
Toomer ............2 (At least I think it was his number, really hard to tell)


The starters were Crawford, Melton, Hayden and Mincey, and they led all linemen in snaps. Those four and McClain, Coleman and Selvie were the main rotation, with a committee filling out the snaps at RE.

They played the starters mainly the first two defensive series, then rotated pretty aggressively. The starting combo only started together on four of the ten defensive series, and there was a lot of substituting within the same series, especially on the inside.

Crawford started at LE, and the rotation there was he and Selvie, plus one snap where Mincey and Crawford flipped and Mincey was at LE.

At RE, It was mainly Mincey (28 snaps here), and the rest were split by Wilber (11 snaps), Jack Crawford (8), and Toomer (2).

Melton and McClain split 3-tech on all base snaps. Hayden was 1-tech on all 8 base snaps. Not much to conclude there I guess, with only 16% of the defensive snaps in base d.

Of the nickel snaps, which was the entire second half, the rotation on the inside was Melton, Coleman, Hayden and McClain, who all had roughly the same # of nickel snaps. Mincey had a few inside snaps and the Crawford brothers each had one inside snap in nickel.

Coleman only played 2 first half snaps, but played extensively in the second half...he was in for 17 of the 28 2nd half plays. He played next to McClain and Hayden mainly, but played next to Melton on the inside on four snaps.

They liked sliding Mincey inside and having Wilber next to him at RE. About half of Wilbers snaps were next to Mincey.

Mincey is one strong dude. I was paying more attention to trying to figure out who was in and didn’t try to grade everyone, but when I noticed him on the inside, he was getting some brute force push.

Wilber had a couple of nice plays at RE, but between he, J. Crawford and Toomer…man, I hope Demarcus Lawrence heals up fast.
 
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Awesome analysis. Will be interesting to see what happens when Spencer comes back. Lawrence's return is pretty clear. He'll back up Mincey at RDE and get all the snaps that the Wilber/Crawford/Toomer trio got. But Spencer will be interesting. I don't think he starts. I see our starting line pretty much staying what it is. But where exactly does Spencer fit? LDE seems to be pretty locked down with Crawford and Selvie pretty much splitting snaps 50/50. I guess Spencer would back up Mincey at RDE until Lawrence comes back.
 

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There's something else that's interesting. We played the nickel in 82% of plays. It won't be like that every week obviously. We mainly did it because we had a big lead in the second half and were expecting them to throw it around to make a comeback. But I think the league average was about 61% last year. The thing that interests me is the role of the 3rd LBer. You only have 2 LBers in the nickel so that 3rd LBer doesn't get many snaps compared to the other 2. So now with the emergence of McClain and the fact that Carter may have found his calling at SLB, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Lee returns. You don't want to have to sit one of those guys 40 plays a game. They're all too talented.
 

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Nice info. What combo was out there we got the sacks?

The first one was Crawford-Melton-Mincey-Wilber. I think Wilber and Melton shared the sack.

The second one was Selvie-Melton-Hayden-J. Crawford, but I think that Rolando McClain got credit for the sack.
 

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Awesome info!

How do you game plan for a defense when there are so many moving parts?

Maybe Rod Marinelli had something to this whole rotation thing?

Only ingredient missing on the rotation is that 1 or 2 speed/formidable pass rusher and that's due to injury.

Lawrence and Spencer.
 

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The first one was Crawford-Melton-Mincey-Wilber. I think Wilber and Melton shared the sack.

The second one was Selvie-Melton-Hayden-J. Crawford, but I think that Rolando McClain got credit for the sack.

Thanks. Yes you are correct on who got credit for the sacks.
 

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Awesome analysis. Will be interesting to see what happens when Spencer comes back. Lawrence's return is pretty clear. He'll back up Mincey at RDE and get all the snaps that the Wilber/Crawford/Toomer trio got. But Spencer will be interesting. I don't think he starts. I see our starting line pretty much staying what it is. But where exactly does Spencer fit? LDE seems to be pretty locked down with Crawford and Selvie pretty much splitting snaps 50/50. I guess Spencer would back up Mincey at RDE until Lawrence comes back.

Yeah I'd expect Lawrence and Mincey to be the rotation at RDE. I'm curious what they'll do with Spencer as well. I want to go back and watch again without looking mainly for who's on the field, but it looked like Crawford created some nice pressure, especially in the first half. I don't remember Selvie doing much. It'll be interesting to see who loses snaps when he comes back (if he can get back and beat out either of them).
 

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Toomer is an undersized OLB and Marinelli has him rushing the passer at DE?? I must have completely missed that so will go back and re watch.
 

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Toomer is an undersized OLB and Marinelli has him rushing the passer at DE?? I must have completely missed that so will go back and re watch.

I might have gotten his number wrong on the two plays I credited him. It was Tennessee's second series of the second half, the three play drive that ended with the long touchdown pass. I credited him with playing RDE on the first two plays of the drive. It was really hard to tell who was playing RDE...I never really could get a good look at the number, but the best I could tell it looked like #56, Toomer's number. It's possible it was #58 instead, Jack Crawford, which would make sense, since he was getting some snaps during that stretch.
 

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I thought the Crawford, T. McClain, Melton, Mincey was a very nice combo. Would look better with Spencer (healthy) and DLaw
 

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There's something else that's interesting. We played the nickel in 82% of plays. It won't be like that every week obviously. We mainly did it because we had a big lead in the second half and were expecting them to throw it around to make a comeback. But I think the league average was about 61% last year. The thing that interests me is the role of the 3rd LBer. You only have 2 LBers in the nickel so that 3rd LBer doesn't get many snaps compared to the other 2. So now with the emergence of McClain and the fact that Carter may have found his calling at SLB, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Lee returns. You don't want to have to sit one of those guys 40 plays a game. They're all too talented.

And when Scandrick comes back it will improve the quality of the nickel DBs.
 

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There's something else that's interesting. We played the nickel in 82% of plays. It won't be like that every week obviously. We mainly did it because we had a big lead in the second half and were expecting them to throw it around to make a comeback. But I think the league average was about 61% last year. The thing that interests me is the role of the 3rd LBer. You only have 2 LBers in the nickel so that 3rd LBer doesn't get many snaps compared to the other 2. So now with the emergence of McClain and the fact that Carter may have found his calling at SLB, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Lee returns. You don't want to have to sit one of those guys 40 plays a game. They're all too talented.

Neither McClain, Carter or Durant are signed for next year so that's not really a problem as of right now.
 

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Neither McClain, Carter or Durant are signed for next year so that's not really a problem as of right now.

Not at the moment but let's look at our options. I think resigning McClain is a given. He's a true MLB and we just can't trust Lee's health anymore. Carter is the tricky thing. He was supposed to be our future but has been in the dog house for two years now. But if we see a resurrection of him at the SLB then I think you have to strongly consider resigning him too. You need two stud LBers in the 4-3 considering we're in the nickel 65-70% of downs. Lee and McClain would be nasty, but what happens if Lee goes down again. I think this season is all about Carter trying to justify us resigning him. I love Lee but I was strongly against the extension. McClain was a godsend though. We might not miss a beat had Lee actually been healthy.
 
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