The draft... quality over quantity

[Verdict]

Having filled most of the gaping holes with free agent signings, I think the focus of this draft should be about finding quality starters and should emphasize quality over quantity, and best player available rather than need.

For example, if they view DeCastro as a once in a decade guard, then unless they believe they can trade down a few spots and get DeCastro, or a player equally dominant at his position then if Castro is there you take him, period. You don't trade down and take a guy like Glenn and another player unless you know, not hope that he can get it done at guard.

An example of this is like passing on S. Jackson for Julius Jones. S. Jackson is STILL a workhorse back, many years later. Granted he wasn't a L. Tomlinson (in Tomlinson's prime) but a guy who can be a top 5 player at his position for the duration of his career shouldn't be passed over based on quantity alone. We drafted a ton of players one year(2009???) and how many of those players are still on the team?

The premium picks are the first three rounds ....So let's make sure the first 3 picks count by having a high probability of each pick being on the team 5 years from now.

 

[a_minimalist]

I agree. I think DeCastro is a must. I know this is going to sound a bit out there and dreamy but I wish there was a way to lose a pick or two and grab Ingram or Barron along with DeCastro. But, I agree that if DeCastro is there he should be taken immediately.

 

[Disturbed]

You would think after 20 years Jerrah would have learned this lesson by now. Quality always wins. Potential is most often meaningless. You should always draft proven performers from college than some guy with "potential" because you think you can use him better than college coaches. Most of the time, the college coaches were right....

I agree on DeCastro. Go get him, even if you have to trade a late round with our first round to move up. Just do it, get him. Don't be stupid.

 

[JBS]

The goal should never be quantity over quality

 

[DFWJC]

I agree. I think DeCastro is a must. I know this is going to sound a bit out there and dreamy but I wish there was a way to lose a pick or two and grab Ingram or Barron along with DeCastro. But, I agree that if DeCastro is there he should be taken immediately.

You are assuming our scouts like him as much as you do.
I saw a mock by a leading "expert" today that had Decastro going after Glenn. I'm saying that I agree with it, but that akes 3 mocks that I've seen that happen already.
You just never know.

But I agree with your premis; what's the point in getting a bunch of players who can't play vs a few that can?

 

[DasTex]

Agreed, 100%. This is also why I would have no problem trading a 3rd to get back into the first or top of second in getting the guy they want.

 

[Hostile]

The people said, "Hail Caeser" and Caesar said, "Hail yes."

 

[Disturbed]

The people said, "Hail Caeser" and Caesar said, "Hail yes."

HA! Did you just think that up?

 

[Hostile]

HA! Did you just think that up?

No, there was an old time Southern comedian named Brother Dave Gardner who said that on one of his albums and I always have thought it was brilliant.

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[Teague31]

The goal should never be quantity over quality

That's how we ended up with the 2009 draft.

 

[DFWJC]

You are assuming our scouts like him as much as you do.
I saw a mock by a leading "expert" today that had Decastro going after Glenn. I'm saying that I agree with it, but that akes 3 mocks that I've seen that happen already.
You just never know.

But I agree with your premis; what's the point in getting a bunch of players who can't play vs a few that can?

For example, in his latest Mock, Todd McShay has Glenn going 18th and DeCastro going 20th!

Kiper has DeCastro going 20th and Glenn going 21st.

If they are even close to correct, why in the sam-heck would we trade UP for him?

Of course, they have been wrong plenty.

 

[a_minimalist]

You are assuming our scouts like him as much as you do.
I saw a mock by a leading "expert" today that had Decastro going after Glenn. I'm saying that I agree with it, but that akes 3 mocks that I've seen that happen already.
You just never know.

But I agree with your premis; what's the point in getting a bunch of players who can't play vs a few that can?

Yes, assuming they feel the way I do about DeCastro. The majority of the "reputable" websites I have been to have DeCastro as the clear #1 though. I would be okay with Glenn too though. I just think the two free agency signings at the OL are baffling. I can't wrap my head around it and I don't think it should be an excuse to blow an opportunity at DeCastro.......or Glenn. DeMarco Murray and Romo should have all of the help they can get.

 

[a_minimalist]

For example, in his latest Mock, Todd McShay has Glenn going 18th and DeCastro going 20th!

Kiper has DeCastro going 20th and Glenn going 21st.

If they are even close to correct, why in the sam-heck would we trade UP for him?

Of course, they have been wrong plenty.

If that played out, then I don't think my previous statement is as dreamy as I thought it would be. There's no reason why they shouldn't lose a 2nd and 3rd round pick to fill a DL position and OL position in the 1st. That sounds like an awesome option to me, but, still unlikely.

 

[DFWJC]

Yes, assuming they feel the way I do about DeCastro. The majority of the "reputable" websites I have been to have DeCastro as the clear #1 though. I would be okay with Glenn too though. I just think the two free agency signings at the OL are baffling. I can't wrap my head around it and I don't think it should be an excuse to blow an opportunity at DeCastro.......or Glenn. DeMarco Murray and Romo should have all of the help they can get.

I agree with your take on the O-line and the FA signings not changing uyr needs there.

But guys like McShay and Kiper seems to now have Glenn and DeCastro neck and neck....where at one point it was a no constest. If we have them close and they're both there, we shoud not burn a 3rd or 4th rounder (which would be the price to move a few slots in Rd1). That 3rd or 4th round pick could end up being a starter for all we know.

 

[Verdict]

The people said, "Hail Caeser" and Caesar said, "Hail yes."

I'm not sure what that means in the contest of this thread (laughing). I am sure in a perfect world we would trade down every pick and draft a team of pro bowlers. I guess what I am saying is we need no less than 3 players who have a high probability of being major contributors from this draft class (excluding UDFA's). I see the most easily upgraded positions as guard, safety, and center which are also incidentally needs.

I say use all the ammo you can to get three or four great picks this draft. Target those players and use the other picks to move up if necessary, but don't reach. If they think for example that the top safety will be (insert name) , and they expect him to go at say #25, then trade down and take him (if DeCastro is gone) but we have to get 3 great players with the top 3 picks, even if we have to move up to get our guy. Shaun Lee is one example of us doing that, if memory serves me right.

 

[Clove]

If you can add a future star at guard do it. But after that, we need pressure on the QB, and a return guy. Those are the only 3 players I would focus on. Pressure players in the front 7, a guard, and a quality return specialist.

 

[a_minimalist]

For example, in his latest Mock, Todd McShay has Glenn going 18th and DeCastro going 20th!

Kiper has DeCastro going 20th and Glenn going 21st.

If they are even close to correct, why in the sam-heck would we trade UP for him?

Of course, they have been wrong plenty.

I agree with your take on the O-line and the FA signings not changing uyr needs there.

But guys like McShay and Kiper seems to now have Glenn and DeCastro neck and neck....where at one point it was a no constest. If we have them close and they're both there, we shoud not burn a 3rd or 4th rounder (which would be the price to move a few slots in Rd1). That 3rd or 4th round pick could end up being a starter for all we know.

I agree. I actually don't think they should move away from pick 14. I think two 1st's would be ideal and somewhat doable. It's so hard to decide if the OL or the DL needs the help more. That's why I say both. There needs to be some sense of urgency if Jerry Jones really wants to "win now." Romo isn't getting any younger. Ware and Witten will be 30 this upcoming season. These are all guys who should have at least 1 Super Bowl ring.

 

[Rogerthat12]

The goal should never be quantity over quality

2009 cowbouys draft :bang2:

 

[newlander]

this board (that includes myself) is more in love with DeCastro than the Cowboys are......time will tell

 

[Rockytop6]

No, there was an old time Southern comedian named Brother Dave Gardner who said that on one of his albums and I always have thought it was brilliant.

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Brother Dave! Man that brings back a lot of memories. He said one time, "Some people tell me 'Brother Dave you should have been a preacher. You could have made a fortune.' He said, 'but if I was a preacher what could I spend it on?'"

He was a funny, funny guy!