The effects of age and Dak Prescott

[CCBoy]

grow that hamstring back onto the bone with the power of positive thinking! You are only as old as you think you are.

Ever played the sport and gone through injury, yourself? Please explain it.

 

[blueblood70]

Thank you. A good thought. Being supportive here. He has shown ability and is in as an important piece, but part of a team. I feel that this team is improving.

The offensive tackles need a knot jerked in their butts and improved. My pet peeve here...

It needs to all be fixed they need a run game physical offensive line better defense, but just sticking with the offense they just need to create a better scheme and use their talent properly, get more talent.

because anybody in here that claims Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach somehow did this on their own they had one of the best run games in offensive lines and defenses and coaching Staffs to ever be assembled and I believe Romo or Prescott would have been just as successful in those offenses I know we can't prove it but what I see is fans blaming the quarterback even though yes he's had some problems but the problems typically can be pinpointed by the fact that they just don't have much in the form of weapons in the big games that they're not running the football the offensive line's getting penalized they're not blocking well the receivers are not getting separation etc etc..

The eagles just won a Super Bowl and somehow jalen hurts all of a sudden as an elite quarterback I mean like the dude just carried that team or was it saquon Barkley in a ridiculously good offensive line two really good wide receivers and a shutdown defense that just shut Patrick mahomes in that offense down they made Andy Reid look bad... Somehow the credit will go to hey jalen hurts has a Super Bowl ring and Prescott doesn't come on people be realistic there's no Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach without Tony Dorsett Emmett Smith and those offensive lines and you had defenses that were just ridiculously good nobody's perfect but I don't remember any of our super quarterbacks carrying the team but that's what they're doing here they're either asking the quarterback to do it all or when he makes mistakes that's all on him...

 

[blueblood70]

Ever played the sport and gone through injury, yourself? Please explain it.

I keep pointing out angries and mistakes like Prescott's injury prone but you look around the league lots of people get injured but they also don't see it like I see it and I don't know if he's gonna be able to rebound this year but after 2020 that injury could have been career ending he fought his way back at one of his best years 37 touchdowns 10 interceptions he didn't show signs of slowing down just because he doesn't run as much lot of quarterbacks who are really pocket passers don't run a lot in the first place.. Same with was it 2022 not only did he have a calf injury then he broke his hand he's coming back from 2 injuries and everyone's going to get on him for all those interceptions that year, but he still had twice as many touchdowns and interceptions, but all they could focus on was the interceptions and he actually played pretty damn well coming back from 2 injuries and really when we looked at that offense we saw a lot of balls bouncing off guys hands getting tipped up in the air you know no time to throw I mean you have to keep the team game and you have to keep perspective keep the facts keep the same energy when we see other quarterbacks have years where they make more mistakes but they somehow get the excuse the offensive line, the receivers you know the coaches, but Prescott it's all his fault...

 

[CCBoy]

Do you think wear and tear is a myth?

I mean, you think Dak is a great QB, so you clearly don't operate in the same reality as most.

I already posted what I went through in sport and then added 23 years of military service on top of that. Age and demand of intense activity?

 

[CCBoy]

Not if his CAP hit (due to the 4 year contract he signed), is $60m (plus the $40m carry over) and where he also a needs a Doomsday Defense to give him a lead as we know without it he's prone to Deer-in-Headlights......and that's before we address the need for a running game (to stop teams sitting in Cover 2 and picking him off as he panics), and protection (due to diminishing mobility) and receiving weapons as he needs more options for him to ignore.

The real answer is probably somewhere between our perspectives, but dont give us this Jerry take of everything's looking good.

First off, I posted points involved with age and a quarterback. Actually good considerations. Those aspects do directly apply to Dak. That is a generalized player consideration.

Jerry comment is another category.

I agree that even the Dallas Cowboys picture still involves a team approach.

 

[CCBoy]

Age is only half the equation. Wear and tear the other.

Dak has suffered some significant injuries. It is obvious that Dak does not have the same skill set he did in the earlier years.

Whether he has "plenty of ability to bring to the table and compete" is debatable. That he doesn't have the same ability as he did early in his career is not.

Age as a reason implies wear and tear and not recoverability.

 

[CCBoy]

I keep pointing out angries and mistakes like Prescott's injury prone but you look around the league lots of people get injured but they also don't see it like I see it and I don't know if he's gonna be able to rebound this year but after 2020 that injury could have been career ending he fought his way back at one of his best years 37 touchdowns 10 interceptions he didn't show signs of slowing down just because he doesn't run as much lot of quarterbacks who are really pocket passers don't run a lot in the first place.. Same with was it 2022 not only did he have a calf injury then he broke his hand he's coming back from 2 injuries and everyone's going to get on him for all those interceptions that year, but he still had twice as many touchdowns and interceptions, but all they could focus on was the interceptions and he actually played pretty damn well coming back from 2 injuries and really when we looked at that offense we saw a lot of balls bouncing off guys hands getting tipped up in the air you know no time to throw I mean you have to keep the team game and you have to keep perspective keep the facts keep the same energy when we see other quarterbacks have years where they make more mistakes but they somehow get the excuse the offensive line, the receivers you know the coaches, but Prescott it's all his fault...

Thanks for very helpful and observed imput.

 

[CCBoy]

grow that hamstring back onto the bone with the power of positive thinking! You are only as old as you think you are.

That is actually true. If one accepts failure he fails to work through it. That isn't football from the start.

 

[CCBoy]

Most QBs are able to play at a high level well into their 30s if they can avoid serious injuries. Dak has taken a lot of punishment the last few years, not only physically but mentally. It’s taken a toll on his confidence. Because of the injuries he’s apprehensive to run. His mobility has eroded and he’s having to depend on his arm. We can only imagine how much slower he’s bound to be after this latest leg injury.

He's a big boy and working towards a billion... He already knows the place for a rehab.

 

[csirl]

Agree with a lot of the posters re age/injury.

The other issue is that he's not 100% committed to the sport. Those QBs who played into their 30s and beyond lived and breathed football 24hrs a day. Dak is too distracted by his attempts to become a celeb and look good on social media. He's a reality star more than a football player.

 

[CCBoy]

Agree with a lot of the posters re age/injury.

The other issue is that he's not 100% committed to the sport. Those QBs who played into their 30s and beyond lived and breathed football 24hrs a day. Dak is too distracted by his attempts to become a celeb and look good on social media. He's a reality star more than a football player.

That is a failure of a large number of players in the sport today. Don't make a NBA out of the NFL. I agree, but media and player generated at core.

 

[CCBoy]

Holy hell! It's getting longer and longer by the day! This poster just can't keep his mouth shut. lol. I feel sorry for his family members if he has some.

Give up!

That's exactly the crap that CCboy is pushing. It's almost like it's Daks brother Tad trying to get people to believe in him.
What a laugh!

Try talking football and not personal agenda. Oh, you just can't huh?...football needs to be focus and that isn't left to be understand.

 

[CCBoy]

Do you think wear and tear is a myth?

I mean, you think Dak is a great QB, so you clearly don't operate in the same reality as most.

That is what you said. In the OP, that was not what was discussed. I'm not hiding...

 

[BoyzBlaster]

This can't be farther from the truth,

I don't know what you've seen, lost his confidence? he hurt his hamstring in the game he was actually moving and running pretty well under immense pressure, you're trying to tell me he's mistake prone?

YET, he just had one of the best years of his life; 2023 MVP, yes he had an MVP season, he just was not handed the trophy, he deserved just like this year Lamar Jackson didn't get it because he got it the year Dak should have got it and now Josh Allen has it.. yes there's a debate all three deserved it but you're trying to tell me that what you saw in 2024 that he just dropped off a Cliff from 23 and got hurt and now it's over he's more mistake prone?

no, the mistakes come from a lot of different reasons.

I find it ironic,

I sit and listen to some of the Twitter wars going on with Geno Smith, you know the Raiders gave up a third round pick for the guy they're about to give him about $45 million, how old is he? how many interceptions did he throw last year, especially in the red zone? so he's mistake prone but the Raiders think he's a good quarterback.. Raiders nation think they just got the next coming of a savior for their franchise as if he's better than Derek Carr, but he's not, but somehow that's the view they have of him, that that dude was making mistakes all last year and you know who they blamed the coaches and the offensive line the lack of a consistent run game,​

kind of funny right, those fan bases see reality where our fan bases just blame the quarterback, and say oh the dudes over, the dude just had one of his best career years, not mistake prone, like what was it 36 touchdowns 9 interceptions?


Last year was horrible because the offensive line couldn't block, they had no run game, the offensive coordinator couldn't create anything for the first eight or nine games of the season, it was just a bad year they didn't do anything right, and the quarterback looked bad because of it.

The fact is when Prescott got hurt in 2020 snapped his ankle off people thought all that was going to wreck his career, he wasn't going to get paid while the Cowboys paid him anyway and then what he do he paid them back 37 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions literally one of his best years coming off a leg injury...

What this team needs to do is get the offensive line jailed find a strong run game you know like jalen hurts had how about an offense like that how about one of these all in teams and he can settle in and actually play the way he's capable of playing.. you know receivers getting open schemed open more separation or having time to throw.. If they do get open but nobody respects the run game, I mean literally that is a fact right now because you act like this dude just all of a sudden is old and can't play anymore and yet 2023 was one of his best years of his career, and yes he got hurt he's going to have to come back from it but let's be real here..

people are pumping up Geno Smith hell look at the numbers Aaron Rodgers had last year which were pretty good and yet they say he's washed but they were about the same or actually slightly better than Geno Smith and yet Geno Smith being talked up on the Internet like he's some big thing this man didn't even start playing well ten years into his career Prescott day one was rookie of the year and all he does by our own fan base is being wrote off.. Geno 21 tds 15 INT and raiders are excited LOL

What quarterbacks had the most mistakes last year cousins 18 INts in 14 games, Baker 15 Ints ? because I'd like to look up Patrick Mahomes touchdown interception ratio 26 tds 11 ints, I'd like to put Jordan loves numbers up here, do I need to go get them 25 tds 14 Ints?

because Matthew Stafford do you remember when he led the league in interceptions the year he went to the Rams and won the Super bowl? he had two interceptions in the Super bowl ,would you call that mistake prone? would you call what they were doing more mistake prone than usual are you trying to tell me it's because of injuries because we're talking about 3 guys on three different levels of age injury history...

I know you're not going to want to read this because it makes too much sense because it's too long to read, I use talk to text but everything in there says that you're wrong about Prescott ,

right now I don't know how he's going to recover and play this year but 2024 was lost his inconsistencies in bad play were because of the team sucked around him all levels..

I mean it took MikeM and his coaching staff to lose most of their players before they got creative and desperate and found a run game and found a little bit better offensive line and they played a little better where was that the first eight games of the year both seasons in a row that Mike McCarthy was the OC it was terrible he got guys like Brandon cook saying he'd be interested in coming back he was utilized properly this is what we've seen from this offense lately and it has nothing to do with the quarterback the quarterback can function if the damn team would step up and play better!!!

He has one of the best touchdown interception ratios in the history of the NFL and in 2023 he was the best at it he almost set a rookie record I mean he may have broke Tom Brady's record most of his career when Prescott had receivers get open had time to throw the man throws Dimes accurate most of the time no quarterback is perfect I didn't see anything last year that says he's more mistake prone there was just nothing to be made no play was there and yeah at some point you just trying to get the ball out and hoping one of your players can make a play it was disastrous nothing looked good last year on off....d of course prescott didn't look good....

Wow

 

[CCBoy]

Rootie toot toot and kicker to boot...team sport could be supported.

 

[jazzcat22]

STOP THE INSULTS OR BE THREAD BANNED OR MORE

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

I've seen Parkinson's patients move better.

 

[CCBoy]

I've seen Parkinson's patients move better.

Where and names...

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Age is only half the equation. Wear and tear the other.

Dak has suffered some significant injuries. It is obvious that Dak does not have the same skill set he did in the earlier years.

Whether he has "plenty of ability to bring to the table and compete" is debatable. That he doesn't have the same ability as he did early in his career is not.

There are several other aspects of the equation. Genetics, intelligence, luck...to name a few.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Age is the most limitation on a position that involves or takes crushing explosive impact. Known.

That impact is what builds up upon quarterbacks. Speed is an element that has to be monitored. Monitored. The year round conditioning, diet, and directed procedures extend the playing days for players. Darrell Green, a premier runner and football player both, was out running the top runners in the NFL, up into his 40's. Age itself is not above being extended and a player's positional effectiveness retained. That is up to specific limitations or strengths of that particular player.

Non disciplined linemen are responsible for quarterbacks getting injured and accumulation of damage. Coaching staffs that don't hold accountability for penalties have groups that don't fully protect their quarterbacks!

As to quarterbacks, a reduction in risk situations extends his production. The longer a productive quarterback is in the action, he actually gets better if the team around him maintains levels of support.

Moving the ball can be fancy Dan or it can be nose to nose. Injury protection tends towards finesse and open space effectiveness. Speed kills, but team play wins.

The quarterback on the field is the offensive (hence team) leader on the carpet. But the real leadership of team is the coaching staff. They react to play on that carpet and prepare the team for game time activity and reaction to challenges. There are always negative challenges. Good teams are prepared for the effects of game changers.

Game changes are what killed Prescott as well caused failures of even good Dallas teams in playoffs. That part is the reality of football. That is what football is all about...not insults as a sideline to a fan.

Dak is far from a handicapped quarterback due to age. The thing there is a quarterback as team leader is never off the hook. He, although, has plenty of ability to bring to the table and compete.

So you are saying Dak has NOTHING to do with any (real or perceived) Dak failures.

AND...he still has PLENTY more to "bring to the table" that he has not yet brought.

OOOOkay.