The Herd - Rating Dak

[817Gill]

Isnt it miraculous that Dak had none of these issues the first 24 games of his career. How is it possible for you people NOT to understand what happened to the team in game #25 that changed everything. Its the most laughably obvious set of circumstances you could possibly have.

Regress? LOL Wow its like you people didn't even watch the games.

THIS. Put any qb on a team with below average pass protection, below average receivers, and an average back and you'll see some "regression" also. Weeks 10-12 last year are the reason LVE, Connor Williams, and Gallup were our first 3 picks.

 

[817Gill]

14 sacks in those 3 games as well

 

[kskboys]

Only one QB in the history of the league had an "arguably" better rookie season than Dak and that is Dan Marino. He's the only one that can even be considered to have had as good or better rookie season. That says quite a bit.

Not really. Cam Newton and Andrew Luck were great.

 

[kskboys]

For Dak to make those defenses pay this season he is going to have to show something we haven't seen yet. Big play capability.

Go rewatch the playoff game vs GB.

 

[817Gill]

Ugh!!

Are we just going to rewrite history?!

His "first 24 games" included horrible games against the Giants and Vikings in 2016 and some very mediocre games also.. not to mention the Denver debacle (in Wich Zeke played and Tyron was healthy)

This is why you guys can't be taken seriously...you're blinded by the Dak koolaid.

You guys act as if Dak turned into poo after the Zeke suspension and that is just not true !!

He showed signs of being a very flawed QB way back in 2016 and also early on in 2017... For example , the first game of the season against the Giants ..he was missing throws left and right .

So stop pushing that false narrative that Dak was flawless his first "24 games"

For the majority of those 24 games he looked like the Dak we know he can become. Week 2 vs. Denver the whole team played terribly, teams sometimes have weeks where they don't bring it; that was a clear example. Dak had 3 games his ROOKIE year where he didn't play well. The overwhelming majority of those 24 games he looked great. Weeks 10-12 killed him and the 2017 season for reasons we all know.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm going to assume this was sarcasm. It's the only rational explanation.

Nothing sarcastic about it.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Not really. Cam Newton and Andrew Luck were great.

Their numbers weren’t as good as Dak’s. Look it up.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Nothing sarcastic about it.

That’s too bad then because it’s a really ridiculous statement. So, after playing in a handful of games, most of which were meaningless, , Garaffalo has been better than Dak, who has two full seasons under his belt? And Dak’s numbers are better as well. OK. LOL

 

[HungryLion]

Go rewatch the playoff game vs GB.

Or the Pittsburgh game. Or the Lions game. Or the Arizona cardinals game or the raiders game or both packers regular season games..... etc etc.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Yep.. we’re All In alright.

They struck gold is right. When are they gonna realize it's fools gold. Daks last season was compatible to Tyrod Taylor. While Dak had 22 tds and 13 ints and Wentz even though he was injured had 33 tds and 7int. Yep they sound about even. Dak had 8 games under 200 yds while Wentz had 3 games under 200.[/QUOTE]

So now you're comparing 2 teams, one the Super Bowl champs, the other that didn't make the playoffs. The operative word being TEAMS. When spouting picks from 2017 you forgot or intentionally omitted the fact that Prescott set an NFL record for fewest picks by a rookie QB that started all 16 games. Where was Wentz on that one. Again it's a team sport and there were many reasons that Prescott had no control over that had direct affects on the outcomes of games. Those that want to just single out Prescott do so because they don't understand that the other 10 on offense and the 11 on defense plus the special teams have a direct affect on the outcome of games.
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[starcity214]

Only one QB in the history of the league had an "arguably" better rookie season than Dak and that is Dan Marino. He's the only one that can even be considered to have had as good or better rookie season. That says quite a bit.

Shows how much you know about football...

Most first round rookie QBs end up on terrible teams.

Can you tell me how many rookie QBs end up on a team with the best Offensive line in the league , the best RB in the league and a well rounded set of receivers?

Can you tell me how many rookie QBs go into a game knowing that your only job is not to lose the game?

Your argument is stupid because it doesn't take into account that most if not all rookie starting QBs are looked upon as saviours and they put the game on their shoulders.. we all know Dak only took what was there and it wasn't on him. Pressure is everything in life..

I bet you I could make a free throw from half court but if I had to make one at the end of a game to win , I'd probably miss it..

Prescott in a nutshell.

 

[texbumthelife]

This is the type of naïve homer nonsense you see on this site. Its completely obvious that Garrappolo is a much more seasoned and better all around player at this time. Garrap will be one of the best QB's in the NFL going forward.

Let's compare Dak's first 16 games as starter to Garappolo's once he gets that far and see. Garappolo has just as much chance to regress as anyone. Teams have solid tape on him now. I'd hold off on the anointing oil for just a little while. He may have been in the league longer, but he's still not any more experienced in-game.

 

[kskboys]

Their numbers weren’t as good as Dak’s. Look it up.

Numbers? In what respect? I believe they both had more yards. Newton set a record for passing yds his first 2 seasons, then Luck broke it. What numbers are you using?

 

[CowboyRoy]

That’s too bad then because it’s a really ridiculous statement. So, after playing in a handful of games, most of which were meaningless, , Garaffalo has been better than Dak, who has two full seasons under his belt? And Dak’s numbers are better as well. OK. LOL

Have you even watched his games? Dak is still growing. May be better in the end. But Garrap is already at the point where he can dominate games. Do you even know what he did last year after starting for a team that hadn't won a game? Garrap has learned from great coaching in a great system for years and played behind and taught from Brady and Beillichek.

Love Dak, but at this point, he isn't at Garrap level yet. You can have any opinion you want. I don't blame you for sticking up for Dak. I honestly would expect most Cowboys fans to get it. Although some of the Dak haters would certainly take my side on this one

 

[CowboyRoy]

Let's compare Dak's first 16 games as starter to Garappolo's once he gets that far and see. Garappolo has just as much chance to regress as anyone. Teams have solid tape on him now. I'd hold off on the anointing oil for just a little while. He may have been in the league longer, but he's still not any more experienced in-game.

I don't need to see 16 game from Garrap. The guy is a total stud. Just like I didn't need to see 16 games from Dak to know he was a stud. OR Romo.

YOu want to wait to form your opinion so be it. I have seen enough. Of course Garrap is playing for a worse team. Its what made his late season run so impressive. Do you even know what he did last year? Watch any of SF games?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I don't need to see 16 game from Garrap. The guy is a total stud. Just like I didn't need to see 16 games from Dak to know he was a stud. OR Romo.

YOu want to wait to form your opinion so be it. I have seen enough. Of course Garrap is playing for a worse team. Its what made his late season run so impressive. Do you even know what he did last year? Watch any of SF games?

Garoppolo with our Offline and Zeke were 1 DT and FS-SS from the Superbowl....

 

[BourbonBalz]

Shows how much you know about football...

Most first round rookie QBs end up on terrible teams.

Can you tell me how many rookie QBs end up on a team with the best Offensive line in the league , the best RB in the league and a well rounded set of receivers?

Can you tell me how many rookie QBs go into a game knowing that your only job is not to lose the game?

Your argument is stupid because it doesn't take into account that most if not all rookie starting QBs are looked upon as saviours and they put the game on their shoulders.. we all know Dak only took what was there and it wasn't on him. Pressure is everything in life..

I bet you I could make a free throw from half court but if I had to make one at the end of a game to win , I'd probably miss it..

Prescott in a nutshell.

I’ve forgotten more about football and the NFL than you’ll ever know. Dak took over a team that went 4-12 the year before. He went 13-3 as a rookie QB that was thrust into the limelight and didn’t even get starter reps in training camp. Your response is that of a know nothing moron.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Numbers? In what respect? I believe they both had more yards. Newton set a record for passing yds his first 2 seasons, then Luck broke it. What numbers are you using?

The ones that matter. Completion percentage, TD to int. ratio, QB rating, etc. Dak is better in all. Period. Passing yardage is nothing more than a stat for teams that simply throw the ball more. Look at yards per attempt or per completion. Dak haters simply have an agenda. The problem is the stats and facts completely refute their agenda.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Have you even watched his games? Dak is still growing. May be better in the end. But Garrap is already at the point where he can dominate games. Do you even know what he did last year after starting for a team that hadn't won a game? Garrap has learned from great coaching in a great system for years and played behind and taught from Brady and Beillichek.

Love Dak, but at this point, he isn't at Garrap level yet. You can have any opinion you want. I don't blame you for sticking up for Dak. I honestly would expect most Cowboys fans to get it. Although some of the Dak haters would certainly take my side on this one

You have a right to your opinion. Even if it’s based on complete ********. He can dominate games? Wow! You must be president of his fan club. LOL. Your post is less than joke worthy.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I don't need to see 16 game from Garrap. The guy is a total stud. Just like I didn't need to see 16 games from Dak to know he was a stud. OR Romo.

YOu want to wait to form your opinion so be it. I have seen enough. Of course Garrap is playing for a worse team. Its what made his late season run so impressive. Do you even know what he did last year? Watch any of SF games?

The Kneeler and RGIII looked like future greats early in their careers as well. I’m sure people made the same mistake with them that you’re making with JG now. The truth is no one, including you, knows how his career will go. You can think it, but it’s nothing but a guess on your part. He might turn into a future HOFer or he might be out of the league in 3 years. What we do know is that Dak has taken a 4-12 team to a 13-3 team and into the playoffs and performed very well doing it as a ROOKIE. He would’ve done it again last year had it not been for injuries and the crooked suspension. Those are the facts.