The "if we take a" series, WR

[J-man]

Now that we've had time to look at these guys more, I want to hear everyone's position rankings. So I'm going to try and post a position we could possibly take at 12, every couple of days leading up to the draft.
The prepose being to discuss who you would want to draft over the other players at the same position and why?

exp. If we take a RB at 12.. if we take a DT at 12... if we take a DE...get it?

Round two in the series we are going to look at what many believe is the choice Dallas will make at 12, WR.

So if we take a WR at 12, who do you prefer and why?

My order is T McMillian, T Hunter, M Golden, L Burden, E Egbuka

McMillian, IMHO is the best WR prospect in this class. He is one of two, that I think can be legit #1's in the NFL. He would instantly give the offense a much needed alternate, highly capable weapon in the passing game. He and Lamb together would be very difficult for opposing defense to cover. If he's available I don't know if they can pass on him.

Hunter is an incredible athlete who could also be a #1 WR. All the same listed above would apply to him as well. But with his abilities at CB, it is more than likely he will be gone before 12. But if he isn't, you run the card up, because we need a CB just as badly as we need a WR.

Golden is interesting. I don't know if he can be a legit #1, but he should be a fantastic #2. With his great speed, hands, competitiveness and ability paired with CD Lamb he should flourish and instantly give the offense a big boost in productivity.

Burden is very capable of being a very good #2 WR for Dallas. He is WR 3B, to Goldens 3A. Very similar traits of great hands, speed and competitiveness, just not as polished in his craft IMHO. I could go wither way between the 2, but Golden's speed flips the coin his way.

Egbuka is a good WR prospect. Savvy route technician, very good hands, competitive. Just a few minor red flags that drop him down a notch to the others. Would still be a great #2 for Dallas, but 12 maybe a little high for his stock.

 

[cnuball21]

Tmac and Burden are my 1st round WRs. TMac being WR1 and is the only one where the value matches up well at 12.

Egbuka is a fringe 1st rounder so fine in a trade down.

Golden is more of a 2nd rounder for me. He was a 2nd rounder the entire process then had a few good games down the stretch and ran fast and now all of a sudden he’s supposed to be a top 15 player. Smaller frame and below average production profile if being considered as a 1st round player. One of the most overrated players being talked about in the 1st round IMO.

 

[Sandyf]

Nice write up. Not sure I would want a WR at #12. McMillan has a lot questions as to work ethic and route running especially when he is not the main target. Hunter would be the dream but should go top five. Egbuka I see as 2nd round early though. Like Golden but not at 12 and same with Burden. If you go BPA then could see both Warren and Loveland at TE before any of those WRs.

 

[kskboys]

There are no #1 Wrs in this draft. Any WR you take at 12 is a major reach.

 

[Carson]

There are no #1 Wrs in this draft. Any WR you take at 12 is a major reach.

Lions took Jameson Williams at 12 and he’s a #2. Don’t hear too many complaints

 

[stilltheguru]

Lions took Jameson Williams at 12 and he’s a #2. Don’t hear too many complaints

I mean, he hasn't lived up to that pick if we're being honest.

 

[Carson]

I mean, he hasn't lived up to that pick if we're being honest.

1,000 yards, 7 TDs is solid for a WR2 in 15 games

 

[J-man]

Tmac and Burden are my 1st round WRs. TMac being WR1 and is the only one where the value matches up well at 12.

Egbuka is a fringe 1st rounder so fine in a trade down.

Golden is more of a 2nd rounder for me. He was a 2nd rounder the entire process then had a few good games down the stretch and ran fast and now all of a sudden he’s supposed to be a top 15 player. Smaller frame and below average production profile if being considered as a 1st round player. One of the most overrated players being talked about in the 1st round IMO.

I'm a huge Penn State, fan but I watched a few Texas games this year. IMHO, I think Golden is much better than his stats say he is. He seemed like the alpha dog on that team. He was a handful for teams to deal with. When they needed a play he was the target more than not. He is super competitive, quick, fast, with great hands and understands how to get open. I think his stats suffered from their scheme and QB play/decision making more than anything he did.

 

[J-man]

There are no #1 Wrs in this draft. Any WR you take at 12 is a major reach.

Wow that's a bold statement ksk. I think there are 2, but 1 will be a CB.

 

[Cowboyny]

Tmac and Burden are my 1st round WRs. TMac being WR1 and is the only one where the value matches up well at 12.

Egbuka is a fringe 1st rounder so fine in a trade down.

Golden is more of a 2nd rounder for me. He was a 2nd rounder the entire process then had a few good games down the stretch and ran fast and now all of a sudden he’s supposed to be a top 15 player. Smaller frame and below average production profile if being considered as a 1st round player. One of the most overrated players being talked about in the 1st round IMO.

My opinion was swayed about Golden due to some of the media scouts, but you are right, he only rose cause of a strong playoff and a great 40 time in which many don't see on tape. I still see him as a 1st rd receiver, but more of a top 25 player. He is the cleaner prospect to Burden, but doesn't have the same upside potential.

T-Mac in my opinion is the only alpha, true #1 receiver in this class. If you are going to use the #12 pick at the position, you better be getting a future #1 in the process.

 

[kskboys]

Lions took Jameson Williams at 12 and he’s a #2. Don’t hear too many complaints

Lions are stacked and don't need much. We do. Completely different scenario.

Lions were also smart enough to find quality DTs in rounds 2 and 3. You think we can do that? Or that we will?

Also, Jameson runs a 4.3 forty, and is a freaky fast long threat. Name me the 1st round WR in this draft that fits that.

 

[kskboys]

Wow that's a bold statement ksk. I think there are 2, but 1 will be a CB.

Yeah, Hunter shows all the signs of being a much better CB, and at present is no more than a speed threat at WR.

Best WR in this draft? Slot guy, Luther Burden. Think Julian Edelmann.

Who you got as a #1 type WR?

 

[cnuball21]

I'm a huge Penn State, fan but I watched a few Texas games this year. IMHO, I think Golden is much better than his stats say he is. He seemed like the alpha dog on that team. He was a handful for teams to deal with. When they needed a play he was the target more than not. He is super competitive, quick, fast, with great hands and understands how to get open. I think his stats suffered from their scheme and QB play/decision making more than anything he did.

If he would’ve come close to sniffing 1000 yards the 2 years prior at Houston I’d give him a pass. But we’re talking about a kid that had 3 years of college playing time and is nowhere near the typical production profile you look for in a round 1 WR.

And you can make the bad QB case for a lot of the WRs in this class. McMillans QB was terrible and he still racked up a ton of yards without having Isaiah Bond opposite of him.

 

[cnuball21]

My opinion was swayed about Golden due to some of the media scouts, but you are right, he only rose cause of a strong playoff and a great 40 time in which many don't see on tape. I still see him as a 1st rd receiver, but more of a top 25 player. He is the cleaner prospect to Burden, but doesn't have the same upside potential.

T-Mac in my opinion is the only alpha, true #1 receiver in this class. If you are going to use the #12 pick at the position, you better be getting a future #1 in the process.

Agree with most of your point but if is the cleaner prospect than Burden why hasn’t he produced better?

 

[cnuball21]

There are no #1 Wrs in this draft. Any WR you take at 12 is a major reach.

The consensus on McMillan is he’s a top 10ish player in the class so that’s incorrect.

Didn’t you say you don’t even watch the players in another thread?

 

[stilltheguru]

The consensus on McMillan is he’s a top 10ish player in the class so that’s incorrect.

Didn’t you say you don’t even watch the players in another thread?

This coming from the guy who said jack sawyer isn't a candidate at 44 when the consensus boards says otherwise. As long as the board fits your narrative right?

 

[Creeper]

I'm a huge Penn State, fan but I watched a few Texas games this year. IMHO, I think Golden is much better than his stats say he is. He seemed like the alpha dog on that team. He was a handful for teams to deal with. When they needed a play he was the target more than not. He is super competitive, quick, fast, with great hands and understands how to get open. I think his stats suffered from their scheme and QB play/decision making more than anything he did.

You have to love the way he came up big on big games and crucial situations. That's something Dallas really needs. But I also get the hesitation to take him at 12. Still, if you love him, take him at 12. He won't be there are 44.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The consensus on McMillan is he’s a top 10ish player in the class so that’s incorrect.

Didn’t you say you don’t even watch the players in another thread?

The same can be said for Golden being a consensus top 25 who you are calling a 2nd rounder.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

You have to love the way he came up big on big games and crucial situations. That's something Dallas really needs. But I also get the hesitation to take him at 12. Still, if you love him, take him at 12. He won't be there are 44.

Creep..... 100%
I agree his size may give some reason to pause at 12, but as stated, if you like him, he won't be there at 44.

 

[Carson]

Lions are stacked and don't need much. We do. Completely different scenario.

Lions were also smart enough to find quality DTs in rounds 2 and 3. You think we can do that? Or that we will?

Also, Jameson runs a 4.3 forty, and is a freaky fast long threat. Name me the 1st round WR in this draft that fits that.

They finished 9-8 his rookie year and were 3-13-1 the year before they drafted him.

So no. They were both not stacked at the time.

You are making this out to be more than it is.

If a team likes a guy at 12 and is your clear WR2 and it works that’s all that matters.