The Jet Sweep

[romothesavior]

Last week we had a thread talking about how the lack of the jet sweep may have been a factor in our losing. This week, I think it almost had a hand in causing a very avoidable loss.

Notwithstanding the fact that we run it too often and in poor game situations, I am really frustrated by how choreographed it is. Lucky is on the field? The defense knows to watch for a sweep or reverse (or some sort of fake involving the sweep or reverse), because that's about all we do when Lucky is on the field. Meanwhile, no other receiver ever gets the sweep or the reverse.

The whole point of trick plays and misdirection is to, you know, trick people.

 

[Zordon]

I felt bad they fumbled that reverse b/c it looked like it was going to be successful if executed properly. You just know they were waiting weeks to set that up.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I believe Patterson will be a FA next year, just sayin

 

[Macnalty]

Last week we had a thread talking about how the lack of the jet sweep may have been a factor in our losing. This week, I think it almost had a hand in causing a very avoidable loss.

Notwithstanding the fact that we run it too often and in poor game situations, I am really frustrated by how choreographed it is. Lucky is on the field? The defense knows to watch for a sweep or reverse (or some sort of fake involving the sweep or reverse), because that's about all we do when Lucky is on the field. Meanwhile, no other receiver ever gets the sweep or the reverse.

The whole point of trick plays and misdirection is to, you know, trick people.

The play was fine, the five technique on defense was not blocked it was doomed from the start. Someone with the all 22 can provide the number of the person who forgot this essential element of the play.

 

[Bullflop]

Last week we had a thread talking about how the lack of the jet sweep may have been a factor in our losing. This week, I think it almost had a hand in causing a very avoidable loss.

Notwithstanding the fact that we run it too often and in poor game situations, I am really frustrated by how choreographed it is. Lucky is on the field? The defense knows to watch for a sweep or reverse (or some sort of fake involving the sweep or reverse), because that's about all we do when Lucky is on the field. Meanwhile, no other receiver ever gets the sweep or the reverse.

The whole point of trick plays and misdirection is to, you know, trick people.

It should have worked better than it did -- that's for sure. Seem like about half the time Lucky is involved in a play, the chances are high that something goes wrong. Lucky isn't always lucky. His name might just be a bit misleading . . . (bless his heart, he tries, though.)

 

[theogt]

The play was fine, the five technique on defense was not blocked it was doomed from the start. Someone with the all 22 can provide the number of the person who forgot this essential element of the play.

If this is the play I'm thinking of, he's not supposed to be blocked. Lucky is intended to out run him as he crashes to the QB. But the player read the play perfectly and there was nowhere for Lucky to go.

 

[noshame]

We also faked the jet and Dak rolled out which worked flawlessly.

 

[jazzcat22]

They dipped to it too much in this game, and that reverse.
Once game or if twice, then one should be a fake.

 

[CowboyShuy]

Last week we had a thread talking about how the lack of the jet sweep may have been a factor in our losing. This week, I think it almost had a hand in causing a very avoidable loss.

Notwithstanding the fact that we run it too often and in poor game situations, I am really frustrated by how choreographed it is. Lucky is on the field? The defense knows to watch for a sweep or reverse (or some sort of fake involving the sweep or reverse), because that's about all we do when Lucky is on the field. Meanwhile, no other receiver ever gets the sweep or the reverse.

The whole point of trick plays and misdirection is to, you know, trick people.

The jet sweep is not only to trick people. They use it so Defensive Ends have to think twice commiting to the run and tackling Ezekiel, makes a lot much room for the run inside the tackles. It was not good executed but still thats how you open the line of scrimmage. Tampa Bay is a really small and fast defense, you gotta give them props, this is the first game I saw the jet sweep failed to gain yards.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Jet sweep still works. Ask the chiefs. Ravens had their longest run of the season yesterday on a jet sweep. We were just unlucky that the DE didn't bite

 

[Bullflop]

Last week we had a thread talking about how the lack of the jet sweep may have been a factor in our losing. This week, I think it almost had a hand in causing a very avoidable loss.

Notwithstanding the fact that we run it too often and in poor game situations, I am really frustrated by how choreographed it is. Lucky is on the field? The defense knows to watch for a sweep or reverse (or some sort of fake involving the sweep or reverse), because that's about all we do when Lucky is on the field. Meanwhile, no other receiver ever gets the sweep or the reverse.

The whole point of trick plays and misdirection is to, you know, trick people.

Good point -- it becomes extremely difficult to "trick" people when they're able to anticipate your next move.

Smart OCs know better than to use it regularly each and every week. Do that and it ceases to take 'em by surprise. In times gone by, Tom Landry knew better than to use it more than a few times during the year, rather than every week. Nobody gets tricked every time if it's a weekly ploy.

 

[Macnalty]

If this is the play I'm thinking of, he's not supposed to be blocked. Lucky is intended to out run him as he crashes to the QB. But the player read the play perfectly and there was nowhere for Lucky to go.

If that 5 tech gets blocked it is a big gainer. I am looking for it in my recording, do you remember what quarter the play took place?

 

[Reality]

If this is the play I'm thinking of, he's not supposed to be blocked. Lucky is intended to out run him as he crashes to the QB. But the player read the play perfectly and there was nowhere for Lucky to go.

Exactly! Despite the criticism Whitehead has been receiving, much it deserved, that play was just a great read and reaction by the defensive player.

To me, it looked like the defense was determined not to get beat by certain plays and they trusted their secondary to compensate for those gambles. By that I mean they zeroed in on Whitehead during those jet sweeps and they also did the same to Elliott on play-action and rollouts. They bit hard every time because they likely believed that they would rather focus on tackling Elliott each of those plays and letting their secondary deal with the pass without the added pressure rather than risking Elliott breaking off a long run. Their gamble failed though.

There was one roll-out in particular I remember where two defensive players broke through and Dak faked a handoff to Elliott and those guys nearly broke their ankles turning around to tackle Elliott as they were going by him.

 

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

I believe Patterson will be a FA next year, just sayin

If you aren't a good route runner I don't care how fast you are. Patterson maybe could turn corner.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

We have run the jet sweep with excellent success this season. I don't think we have ran it in poor situations outside of last night.

The jet sweep can *help* the running game because the defense has to account for it. Last night that wasn't really the case, but with Lucky he's part of the 13 personnel because he is a pretty ferocious blocker and if you don't account for him, he can blow right by the defense and be wide open in that package.

It looks like he screwed up the reverse and should have caught the ball from EE.

My issue with Lucky, besides ball protection, is that he looks like he has struggled with the changes made to his body in our offseason conditioning program. It reminds me very much of Felix Jones and Julius Jones. He kinda lost what made him a potentially effective player...his 10-yard splits.




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[AzorAhai]

The threat of the sweep is what is important. It's on film that they do it, and that it turns into chunk plays sometimes. That threat takes players with it. It gets every player on the defense taking a step towards him and if you run routes away from it it can create separation that might not have been there.

The play where it was blown up was telegraphed though. The WDE wasn't blocked and set free which is obviously something he saw on tape. That can be fixed. Chip him or leave them unblocked on a fake, quick bootleg throw to make the DE think twice in the future about selling out in that situation.

 

[jwooten15]

I think it's a great wrinkle to have in our offense. True, Lucky is an accident waiting to happen. And true, he hasn't shown any of the flash plays that he used to make.

But teams have to account for him on the jet sweep, and we are adding new looks to it. Even one less pair of eyes on Zeke could make a huge difference.

I think it's only a matter of time until we bust one. I will say, though - I, like most everyone else, was pissed they got cute with the jet sweep on 3rd and 2. That was pretty ridiculous.

 

[Macnalty]

If this is the play I'm thinking of, he's not supposed to be blocked. Lucky is intended to out run him as he crashes to the QB. But the player read the play perfectly and there was nowhere for Lucky to go.

I found it in the game and here are some stills. They are in an odd formation on defense.

 

[yimyammer]

I believe Patterson will be a FA next year, just sayin

huh?

 

[mahoneybill]

It should have worked better than it did -- that's for sure. Seem like about half the time Lucky is involved in a play, the chances are high that something goes wrong. Lucky isn't always lucky. His name might just be a bit misleading . . . (bless his heart, he tries, though.)

Especially on those run outs from the end zone. Wonder if there is a stat on how many times he gets past the 30 on kickoffs. With getting automatically to the 25 I for one don't understand why he chances getting less of somewhere between the 25 and 30.