The Ko Simpson Bandwagon

[TheNextMelKiper2018]

I've been a huge fan Ko Simpson since his stellar freshman season. He has good size, not mouth-dropping, at 6'1'' 201. He runs a 4.5 40.

It looks like Atlanta would be the only team stopping us from getting him. It depends on who takes Huff though, or if Jimmy Williams goes first.

Jimmy Williams doesn't fit their defensive scheme as well as Simpson does. But if Huff was available then, most likely, they would select Huff, barring Hali and Kiwanuka's availability.

What do you guys think about Ko Simpson?
I would love to take him at #18.

 

[neosapien23]

I've been a huge fan Ko Simpson since his stellar freshman season. He has good size, not mouth-dropping, at 6'1'' 201. He runs a 4.5 40.

It looks like Atlanta would be the only team stopping us from getting him. It depends on who takes Huff though, or if Jimmy Williams goes first.

Jimmy Williams doesn't fit their defensive scheme as well as Simpson does. But if Huff was available then, most likely, they would select Huff, barring Hali and Kiwanuka's availability.

What do you guys think about Ko Simpson?
I would love to take him at #18.

Maybe in the second. We already have too many 1st picks in the secondary. I wouldn't mind spending another high pick on the linebackers or recieving core. Maybe Santonio Holmes or Manny Lawson. We need a playmaker.

 

[TheNextMelKiper2018]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

 

[DLCassidy]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

Lawson is moving up draft boards like a rocket, much like Ware did. He won't be a huge stretch at all at 18 the way things are going this week at the Senior Bowl where he is getting more looks than any other player. We absolutely do need an OLB on the strong side to pair with Ware. Lawson would be a good pick. If not, I think we could trade down to late 1st and take Carpenter.

A guy that would be a nice fit at FS would be Patrick Watkins in the 2nd. Blue is looking bad in coverage at Senior Bowl practice.

 

[neosapien23]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

Lawson is looking like the next Demarcus Ware. Safeties do slide more than passrushers. Simpson is the 2nd or 3rd best safety, but someone like Jimmy Williams will make it to the 2nd round for sure. Don't be surprised if Simpson makes it into the second, didn't Brodney Pool slide into the second despite being one of the premier safeties last year?

 

[dbair1967]

I've been a huge fan Ko Simpson since his stellar freshman season. He has good size, not mouth-dropping, at 6'1'' 201. He runs a 4.5 40.

It looks like Atlanta would be the only team stopping us from getting him. It depends on who takes Huff though, or if Jimmy Williams goes first.

Jimmy Williams doesn't fit their defensive scheme as well as Simpson does. But if Huff was available then, most likely, they would select Huff, barring Hali and Kiwanuka's availability.

What do you guys think about Ko Simpson?
I would love to take him at #18.

I wouldnt take him at 18 because he clearly isnt the 18th best player in the draft, but I bet he goes in the late 20's or early 30's

he is a playmaking safety though and IMO he's got the best ball skills of any safety in the draft...I'd love to see him on the Cowboys, but not with the 18th pick

David

 

[Z-Man]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

We have no needs at OLB?!
As far as what's on the team right now, Burnett could be the answer but most reports have him moving to ILB next to James. Fujita is a backup type at best.

I like Ko, but as every draft since Parcells has been here indicate : he doesn't like juniors. And Ko was technically only a sophomore in playing status. Blue, Watkins or Allen (if his hip shows to be OK through team doctors-remember Canty) would be my second round choices at safety. There's not alot at the position in free agency IMO, and I just don't see Bill handing the starting job to a guy who played only 2 years in college like Ko, no matter how talented he is.

 

[Z-Man]

But if Huff was available then, most likely, they would select Huff, barring Hali and Kiwanuka's availability.

We will NOT draft Kiwanuka. He's a DE and we have Spears and Canty already (plus Ellis and Ratliff).Plus he's playing like garbage at SB practices.

we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

Yes, we do not have DE needs. So why would we draft Kiwanuka???

 

[TheNextMelKiper2018]

We will NOT draft Kiwanuka. He's a DE and we have Spears and Canty already (plus Ellis and Ratliff).Plus he's playing like garbage at SB practices.



Yes, we do not have DE needs. So why would we draft Kiwanuka???

The top one was referring to the Atlanta Falcons, NOT the Dallas Cowboys. I was stating that the Falcons would select Ko Simpson, if Kiwanuka and Hali weren't available.

The second one is referring the Dallas Cowboys. I think Canty and Spears are the future ends, and I have no doubt in my mind that DE is not a need.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

Ummm I would like to know what made you come to the conclusion we don't need OLB's/DE?? I think the 2005 year proved it was a position that needs depth.

 

[Z-Man]

The top one was referring to the Atlanta Falcons, NOT the Dallas Cowboys. I was stating that the Falcons would select Ko Simpson, if Kiwanuka and Hali weren't available.

The second one is referring the Dallas Cowboys. I think Canty and Spears are the future ends, and I have no doubt in my mind that DE is not a need.

My mistake for not reading properly.
Hang in there you're doing a good job.

 

[Clove]

Ko Simpson won't be there in the second. The best safety we could get in the second round would be Greg Blue, or maybe Jason Allen.

Why would we draft Manny Lawson at #18? First, that's a huge stretch. Second, we have no need at DE or OLB needs.

If you're going to be the next Mel Kiper, you'd better pay attention son.. . Just playing with ya.

Pressure on the QB was inconsistant at best this year. Closing off those edges were a problem as well. Making tackles in the backfield was lacking, and covering in the flats were horrible.

As time went on, Ware started to seal off those edges. When Kansas City came in and ran the ball wide, they showed the rest of the league where to strike us in the running game (and that's wide) So teams were able to run against us from then on.

To solidify that situation, we need to draft a disruptive force like (Lawson/Carpenter/Wimbley/Mincey/Tapp) someone like that. We need Ferguson to put on 15 pounds or draft a Watson type. If not Watson, we need to pick up Ma'ake Kemoatu - age 27 (6'5 350) in free agency to play in the Middle and create serious havoc for runners or QB's who like to step up in the middle.

We need to get Burnett ready to play, he has the perfect size at 6'3 245is. I would have Burnett gain 5 to 7 pounds in the offseason program, and this guy could dominate with James beside him.

Your front 7
DT-Ma'ake Kemoatu 6'5 350
DE-Marcus Spears 6'4 300
DE-Chris Canty 6'7 305
OLB-DeMarcus Ware 6'4 258
OLB-Manny Lawson 6'5 245
ILB- Bradie James 6'2 250
ILB- Kevin Burnett 6'3 250

Looks good to me......

 

[Silverstar]

Your front 7
DT-Ma'ake Kemoatu 6'5 350
DE-Marcus Spears 6'4 300
DE-Chris Canty 6'7 305
OLB-DeMarcus Ware 6'4 258
OLB-Manny Lawson 6'5 245
ILB- Bradie James 6'2 250
ILB- Kevin Burnett 6'3 250

Looks good to me......

NT-Ma'ake Kemoatu 6'5 350
DE-Marcus Spears 6'4 307
DE-Chris Canty 6'7 279
OLB-DeMarcus Ware 6'4 251
OLB-Manny Lawson 6'5 240
ILB- Bradie James 6'2 245
ILB- Kevin Burnett 6'2 239


That's more like it.

 

[SDogo]

NT-Ma'ake Kemoatu 6'5 350
DE-Marcus Spears 6'4 307
DE-Chris Canty 6'7 279
OLB-DeMarcus Ware 6'4 251
OLB-Manny Lawson 6'5 240
ILB- Bradie James 6'2 245
ILB- Kevin Burnett 6'2 239


That's more like it.

NT-Jason Ferguson
DE-Marcus Spears
DE-Chris Canty
OLB-DeMarcus Ware
OLB-Akin Ayodele
ILB-Bradie James
ILB-Kai Parham

 

[neosapien23]

NT-Jason Ferguson
DE-Marcus Spears
DE-Chris Canty
OLB-DeMarcus Ware
OLB-Akin Ayodele
ILB-Bradie James
ILB-Kai Parham

I like Akin Adoyele, but he doesn't possess either Wimberly or Lawson's pass rush ability. He only got three sacks last year. I wouldn't mind signing him and letting him play ILB and drafting Wimberly or Lawsoon to play OLB. Burnett was unable to make the field last year despite BP wanting him to start over Singleton.

 

[SDogo]

I like Akin Adoyele, but he doesn't possess either Wimberly or Lawson's pass rush ability. He only got three sacks last year. I wouldn't mind signing him and letting him play ILB and drafting Wimberly or Lawsoon to play OLB. Burnett was unable to make the field last year despite BP wanting him to start over Singleton.

The only reason I chose Adoyele over Wimberly or Lawson is because of expierence. I think Bill will load up on LB's this year. It's not out of question we could sign a FA and still draft 2 LB's. I kind of like the idea of bringing in Adoyele and grooming two more young stud LB's.

 

[TheNextMelKiper2018]

Ummm I would like to know what made you come to the conclusion we don't need OLB's/DE?? I think the 2005 year proved it was a position that needs depth.

You don't draft depth in the first round. In my eyes, Ellis, Spears, Canty, and Coleman seem like plenty of talent and depth. That's why we wouldn't draft Lawson, because when we use the 4-3 he would be overshadowed by atleast 3 of them.

Now, OLB, it's possible we could use Lawson there. Of course, that's pending whether or not Kevin Burnett moves inside.

I would like to know how you came to the conclusions that we need to draft a DE or OLB with the #18 pick.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Unless you were looking at a different Cowboys team all season then it's obvious Dallas needs a playmaker at OLB opposite of Ware. Also they need to address inside linebacker via free agency or draft.

 

[TheNextMelKiper2018]

Well, if Burnett is the future at OLB then there's no need to draft one in the first round. Like I previously stated though, it all depends on whether Burnett moves inside.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I wasn't a big fan of Dallas drafting Burnett to be honest, the guy had a history of injuries thoughout college. I was a Odell Thurman guy (Cinncinati).