The Landry Trophy?

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On NFLN they keep showing the preview for America Game the 66' Packers and the famous quote is "If it wasn't for those few plays the trophy might not be called the Lombardi Trophy it might be called the Landry trophy".

Now I loved coach Landry but I don't see this. I know the Cowboys and Packers had some great games but could you see the NFL naming the trophy after coach Landry? I feel the NFL named the trophy after Lombardi because the NFL loved the way the Packers were run (as a how grown team) and the fact that Green Bay won 3 NFL championships and the first two super bowls?

How do you feel?
 

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dcstands4;5098626 said:
On NFLN they keep showing the preview for America Game the 66' Packers and the famous quote is "If it wasn't for those few plays the trophy might not be called the Lombardi Trophy it might be called the Landry trophy".

Now I loved coach Landry but I don't see this. I know the Cowboys and Packers had some great games but could you see the NFL naming the trophy after coach Landry? I feel the NFL named the trophy after Lombardi because the NFL loved the way the Packers were run (as a how grown team) and the fact that Green Bay won 3 NFL championships and the first two super bowls?

How do you feel?

Well it was not called the Lombardi Trophy until 1970 the year Lombardi passed away.
 

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No way to know. However, its truly amazing that Coach Landry only won 2 SB's with all those really really good teams he had. Not a diss on him, but its just how things go. Its the ultimate team game and so many factors go into everything falling in place - even for the really good teams. Sports in many ways is like life. You only control what you can and often times the results aren't what you want or expect. It doesn't mean you didnt do all the right things to achieve the desired results, it just means things didn't work out that way.

On a side note: its why its so crazy for so many here to bash Romo all the time and elevate lesser QB's to some fantasized level of superiority simply because they played on a team that things worked out for and they happened to get a ring. There are some coaches that have as many or more rings than Coach Landry, but it doesn't make them better coaches, or even as good a coach. Same thing applies to Romo and some other recent SB winning QB's. Its just the way it is. And it is delusional to think otherwise.
 

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WPBCowboysFan;5098721 said:
No way to know. However, its truly amazing that Coach Landry only won 2 SB's with all those really really good teams he had. Not a diss on him, but its just how things go. Its the ultimate team game and so many factors go into everything falling in place - even for the really good teams. Sports in many ways is like life. You only control what you can and often times the results aren't what you want or expect. It doesn't mean you didnt do all the right things to achieve the desired results, it just means things didn't work out that way.

On a side note: its why its so crazy for so many here to bash Romo all the time and elevate lesser QB's to some fantasized level of superiority simply because they played on a team that things worked out for and they happened to get a ring. There are some coaches that have as many or more rings than Coach Landry, but it doesn't make them better coaches, or even as good a coach. Same thing applies to Romo and some other recent SB winning QB's. Its just the way it is. And it is delusional to think otherwise.

The game that became known as the Ice bowl was a killer. Dallas was the better team and had superior team speed vs that Packers team but Dallas speed was negated by a field that was frozen over.
 

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Doomsday101;5098732 said:
The game that became known as the Ice bowl was a killer. Dallas was the better team and had superior team speed vs that Packers team but Dallas speed was negated by a field that was frozen over.

Case in point. The better team does not always win. And there can be circumstances beyond your control. Sometimes things just happen to work out the way that they do and it is just that and nothing more.
 

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WPBCowboysFan;5098736 said:
Case in point. The better team does not always win. And there can be circumstances beyond your control. Sometimes things just happen to work out the way that they do and it is just that and nothing more.

True. Unlike the other major sports football is a one game situation. There is no best of 5 or best of 7 it is a one shot deal. Maybe that is why it is one of the most exciting games out there.
 

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Doomsday101;5098630 said:
Well it was not called the Lombardi Trophy until 1970 the year Lombardi passed away.

Nailed it. That was a big factor in the trophy being named after him along with the championships he won. I truly doubt it would have been named after Landry had the Cowboys beaten the Packers in 1966 and 1967 and then went on to win Superbowls I and II.
 

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Doomsday101;5098732 said:
The game that became known as the Ice bowl was a killer. Dallas was the better team and had superior team speed vs that Packers team but Dallas speed was negated by a field that was frozen over.

Frankly, the Packers won because they were more acclimated to the weather. Bart Starr had a 111.6 QB rating on that day for example. That would be a good rating TODAY -- forget about the fact it was the 1960s and 500 degrees below zero.
 

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Frankly, the Packers won because they were more acclimated to the weather. Bart Starr had a 111.6 QB rating on that day for example. That would be a good rating TODAY -- forget about the fact it was the 1960s and 500 degrees below zero.

No one is acclimated to that weather. Most of these players were not born up north and while playing in cold is one things playing in sub zero temps is another.
 

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Nope. Lombardi's passing is why the trophy was named after him, along with the fact that he coached when the Super Bowl was established and won the first two.

No doubt that if the Cowboys won the Ice Bowl, it probably would have been named something else. But not the Landry Trophy; he was a young coach at the time.

Would have been the Halas or Brown trophy, or perhaps named after no one in particular at all.
 

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I always thought it was so cool that Laundry and Lombardi were Defensive and Offensive coordinators, respectively, with the Giants.
 

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not the Landry Trophy; he was a young coach at the time.

Vince Lombardi born in 1913

Tom Landry born in 1924

Highly doubtful "age" was or would have been a deciding factor.

A quick search will reveal that the trophy was named after Lombardi to honor his winning the first 2 SB's. He died rather suddenly at the age of 57 from colon cancer. Pete Rozelle renamed the trophy to honor Lombardi 3 days after his death. In the naming of the trophy it seems that the "TIMING" of Lombardi's death was the determining factor. Had he lived a long life its highly likely that the trophy would have a different name.
 

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dcstands4;5098626 said:
On NFLN they keep showing the preview for America Game the 66' Packers and the famous quote is "If it wasn't for those few plays the trophy might not be called the Lombardi Trophy it might be called the Landry trophy".

Now I loved coach Landry but I don't see this. I know the Cowboys and Packers had some great games but could you see the NFL naming the trophy after coach Landry? I feel the NFL named the trophy after Lombardi because the NFL loved the way the Packers were run (as a how grown team) and the fact that Green Bay won 3 NFL championships and the first two super bowls?

How do you feel?

Rozelle Trophy. That commish modernized the NFL and made it a super money-maker.
Keep any Landry trophy in Texas where it belongs. Outside of the state, he's venerated only by cowboys fans.
 
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