The lazy media baiting trap

[TheDude]

I have no idea and I'm not baiting.

I'd guess Romo, Jerry or Garrett as those seem to be the most hot button topics. Bigger issue is the overall performance of the team since the last run of Super Bowls, so it could be that as well.

I think Romo is a fine QB who could benefit from better coaching, Jerry is fantastic at promoting his team/generating revenue, but his horrible at building a competitive football team and Garrett appears to be rather inadequate as a head coach.

Those opinions are mine formulated from watching and following the team extensively since the early 80s.

I find it odd that people may think the media may change my feelings about any of those things and I find it odd that people get mad at the media for such things. The media doesn't dictate how the players, coaches or front office performs. Why not direct your anger at the source of the issue?

I guarantee you that if Dallas starts winning, the tone of the articles from the media will change. Look at Seattle from 5 years ago versus now.

What do you want the media to report? Puff pieces filled with hope and wishful thinking? What a waste of time.

The media wants Dallas to be good - its better for them.

 

[Rockport]

LOL! 90%.

Okay. Allow me to try this. I copied the following member names browsing the site just a few moments ago:

iceberg, Denim Chicken, CIWhitefish, surfernia, DallasEast, Silver Surfer, LittleD, bkight13, lostar2009, iRepDatStar, chetochico, TonyRomo17, ninja, WV Cowboy, jhamilton8, bysbox1, thetopcowboysfan, JohnsKey19, Airbag, CowboyStar88, TwoDeep3, gimmesix, Rhubarb, star23, adamknite, ekfs, the_h0wey, Mr Cowboy, DanManJ, toni33dors, Christiann, DanteEXT, AmericasTeam81, AmberBeer, jchap2k, windward, doomsday31, JDSTAR, Biggred, Gonhoz, Chuck 54, Idgit, bucks, WPBCowboysFan, Wayne02, WoodysGirl, CCBoy, Aceman15, Zimmy Lives, jazzcat22, dexternjack, panchucko, jubal, jaybird, Yakuza Rich, JAMESMHOLDEN, theSHOW, phong02, McLovin, CATCH17, TINGS21, Alexander, theogt, vta, Vtwin, cowboyeric8, dbonham, Western, iowast8rs, anava, Primetime42, PJTHEDOORS, cml750, Keifer, DMX690, slomoxn, EST_1986, NeonDeion21, NJ22, The Natural, deathreaver, Nation, yimyammer, Playmaker247, erod, wileedog, jobberone, Doomsday101, Bizwah, htownboyzfan, BadKarma, blindzebra, Muhast, Section444, 808CowboyFan, Coy, fishspill, mmohican29, silver, AshyLarry06, GimmeTheBall!, 0gr81, Joe Rod, victoriacowboy, BoysfanfromNY, Mansta54, wafflesyrup, Aikmaniac, p_tubbs, Future, Romo2Dez4six, Rj48, Nexx, Aggie87, jrumann59, woods74, doomsday_II, bounce, Ky31, Cowboys8, gloryofthis, Bill Wooten, BigSarj, Sportsbabe, viman96, cowboytillidie, adwar, illhurtya, coogrfan, DCDave, jday, RS12, romomania, boysfanindc, BrAinPaiNt, jens kuehne, EGG, noshame, da_whiz_kid, percyhoward, CboyFan, Smithy, poost, TheRomoSexual, Picksix, ABQCOWBOY, imbatman, quaigs, Az Lurker, Pokes12... and 25 more

This is typical. The site draws a lot of folks each day. Sometimes, there are an awful bunch more in that list. Let's apply this common occurrence to our topic and pretend for a moment. For the 90% allegation to be true, virtually everyone listed above would be saying exactly what you are alleging.

Allow my long-windedness to be brief. In your opinion, do you think virtually everyone is commenting in the fashion you are alleging? OR is it possible that a far smaller number of members are commenting exactly as you say they are BUT it seems like it is a lot more members making those comments because they are making large numbers of posts about exact same subject?

I think at least 90% are affected by the likes of SAS and others on ESPN, Yahoo, etc. Most people are too busy, too lazy or incapable of formulating their own opinions based on observation. They get their takes from these sources.

 

[DallasEast]

I think at least 90% are affected by the likes of SAS and others on ESPN, Yahoo, etc. Most people are too busy, too lazy or incapable of formulating their own opinions based on observation. They get their takes from these sources.

Even though 90% are not posting comments which echo Stephen A. Smith or ESPN diatribes?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

A lot of people bought the media selling the 2008 and 2010 teams as potential SB candidates. "I rememer tons of "1st team that will play a home game in the SB"

You can't champion one side of the story and ridicule the other when both can or were equally wrong

You mean that same media that has whined and moaned about how bad a GM Jerry is and he's the SOLE reason for our run of futility? And some how while he has been awful and doesnt know football we had a team they thought was talented enough to win it all? That media?

 

[TheDude]

Yes

 

[Alexander]

It still amuses me where people whine about how terrible that evil media is now, but conveniently forget it is always a function of how the team's barometer is swinging at the time.

They love winners, feast on the losers.

We were the media darlings back in the early 1990s. Madden and Summerall made it a Sunday habit to laud the sweat on Nate Newton's pants. Bit players on those teams became celebrities.

Now we are ridiculed by the media because we are making it easy on them.

The "agenda" will turn once the organization decides it is going too far towards entertainment and not enough towards winning. Right now it appears they are just fine with how things are. Negative attention establishes relevance and the cash flow is not disturbed.

 

[Cebrin]

It's a tough situation, and I've argued with my co-workers (great people, they just love to give me grief because of how passionate I am about the Cowboys) many of the same points. However, there is one fact that I cannot deny when it comes to our defense and our expectations: we lost our best defender and arguably our 3rd best with the departure of Hatcher (Sean Lee I ranked 2nd, which could be argued is our best, but at the same time is hard to rank him that high when he cannot consistently take the field). I see our offense as improved with the addition of Martin and another year under the belts of Bryant, Smith, Frederick and Williams but it's hard to ignore the fact that our defense could be statistically worse than it was last year. I know we've done a lot of churning to help improve this area but I'm just not sold that we actually will be better than we were last year - injuries or not. With that said, I think the 24th/28th ranking are ignorant and baseless but that's what generates more hits on these sites and that is controversy.

I don't see how anyone is "sad" that an aging D Ware and his huge contract is not in Dallas anymore. Was he a major player for us that will be missed? Absolutely, I have his jersey. Can he be "that" guy in a 4-3? Not for that kind of money. He wasn't drafted for it and he's not on a team that will use him that way. D Ware is NOT a stud as a 4-3 guy. So, saying we lost our best D player is really a half coined statement. We lost an iconic member of an old defensive team that isn't here anymore.

 

[wileedog]

You mean that same media that has whined and moaned about how bad a GM Jerry is and he's the SOLE reason for our run of futility? And some how while he has been awful and doesnt know football we had a team they thought was talented enough to win it all? That media?

You all act like "The Media" is some coherent group that gets together every Monday morning and plans their weekly stories and themes over lattes.

The reality is "The Media" is a bunch of individuals scrambling to find some way - any way - to get more page clicks then the other guys/gals in the "The Media."

Newsflash - the Cowboys get more media attention than almost any other team because across the country they still somehow have one of the largest fan bases in football. Until that changes, there will be multitudes of stories about good they are, how bad they are, how dysfunctional they are, and there will always always always be a mic open somewhere near Jerry Jones, especially if he has a bourbon in hand. Anyone who thinks there is some sort of national conspiracy or purposely directed narrative for or against the Cowboys is delusional. They just get more attention because more people pay attention.

 

[Tawney88]

It still amuses me where people whine about how terrible that evil media is now, but conveniently forget it is always a function of how the team's barometer is swinging at the time.

They love winners, feast on the losers.

We were the media darlings back in the early 1990s. Madden and Summerall made it a Sunday habit to laud the sweat on Nate Newton's pants. Bit players on those teams became celebrities.

Now we are ridiculed by the media because we are making it easy on them.

The "agenda" will turn once the organization decides it is going too far towards entertainment and not enough towards winning. Right now it appears they are just fine with how things are. Negative attention establishes relevance and the cash flow is not disturbed.

End thread direct concise and absolutely accurate. This should end all future threads about the evil media. Your question has been answered.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You all act like "The Media" is some coherent group that gets together every Monday morning and plans their weekly stories and themes over lattes.

The reality is "The Media" is a bunch of individuals scrambling to find some way - any way - to get more page clicks then the other guys/gals in the "The Media."

Newsflash - the Cowboys get more media attention than almost any other team because across the country they still somehow have one of the largest fan bases in football. Until that changes, there will be multitudes of stories about good they are, how bad they are, how dysfunctional they are, and there will always always always be a mic open somewhere near Jerry Jones, especially if he has a bourbon in hand. Anyone who thinks there is some sort of national conspiracy or purposely directed narrative for or against the Cowboys is delusional. They just get more attention because more people pay attention.

Media and coherent, now thats funny.

As far as delusional. Anybody that doesnt think the media in general has created their own narrative about the Cowboys, and then continually feeds that narrative to keep that ball rolling, ie to get clicks, is either extremely naive or just in denial.

 

[Alexander]

You all act like "The Media" is some coherent group that gets together every Monday morning and plans their weekly stories and themes over lattes.

According to some, they hold secret meetings every day to decide how they are going to make the Cowboys look bad MUAHAHAHAHA.

It is their "agenda".

You know, doing their job trying to remain employed, which means they need to attract attention by pointing out the short comings of the team that only cares about being relevant in the first place.

Yes, many are lazy. And the real thing is, the culture for the industry makes it easy to get away with.

Everyone now is TL;DR. If it can't be summed up in a Tweet or get my attention otherwise it is not worth my time.

It is as much a changing of how things are as anything else.

The reality is "The Media" is a bunch of individuals scrambling to find some way - any way - to get more page clicks then the other guys/gals in the "The Media."

But they are not like those back in the old days that wrote romance stories out of a three and a half hour football game.

Sorry the people that have an issue with the media are simply those who pine away for the good old days where Sherrod or Luksa would write a novel about a football game and at the same time remain more fact based because that was the only medium there was to present the information.

I kind of miss those days too. I had posters on my wall and jerseys in my closet. Sorry, not the same anymore.

That world is gone and it is not coming back, unless you look at fan sites. Run by fans. Who have, well, you guessed it. An "agenda" of their own.

Newsflash - the Cowboys get more media attention than almost any other team because across the country they still somehow have one of the largest fan bases in football. Until that changes, there will be multitudes of stories about good they are, how bad they are, how dysfunctional they are, and there will always always always be a mic open somewhere near Jerry Jones, especially if he has a bourbon in hand. Anyone who thinks there is some sort of national conspiracy or purposely directed narrative for or against the Cowboys is delusional. They just get more attention because more people pay attention.

Teams that crave media attention will get it.

 

[wileedog]

Anybody that doesnt think the media in general has created their own narrative about the Cowboys, and then continually feeds that narrative to keep that ball rolling, ie to get clicks, is either extremely naive or just in denial.

There is no "The Media." That is my point. No one has sat in a smoke filled room and "created a narrative" about the Cowboys. Ed Werder does his thing. Stephan A Smith and Skip Bayless do their schtick. Mickey does his lapdog thing. The beat writers write about this player or that player pretending someone looking good in shorts in OTA's means a darned thing.

It's all just noise. Just because you happen to disagree with some of the noise doesn't mean there is some sort of plot to make the Cowboys look good, bad or anything else.

 

[TheDude]

Media and coherent, now thats funny.

As far as delusional. Anybody that doesnt think the media in general has created their own narrative about the Cowboys, and then continually feeds that narrative to keep that ball rolling, ie to get clicks, is either extremely naive or just in denial.

Sure they lead with stories about Dallas because it gets hits...take the good with the bad. But its driven by the public. And the owner completely feeds the beast. No other owner is rapping in pizza commercials, running to spew stammering foot in mouth phrases to every microphone.

Win and its cute like the sb shuffle. Plod along and they ridicule you. As @Alexander said we were THE media darlings in the 90s. Players are still coveted for commentary today. Aikman, Irvin, woods on, moose, jimmy, deion. You don't see the same rush to find players from the early 2000 pats, broncos or broncos/ pack from late 90s

Pendulums always swing further than true equilibrium

 

[Alexander]

There is no "The Media." That is my point. No one has sat in a smoke filled room and "created a narrative" about the Cowboys. Ed Werder does his thing. Stephan A Smith and Skip Bayless do their schtick. Mickey does his lapdog thing. The beat writers write about this player or that player pretending someone looking good in shorts in OTA's means a darned thing.

It's all just noise. Just because you happen to disagree with some of the noise doesn't mean there is some sort of plot to make the Cowboys look good, bad or anything else.

Nonsense. They are out to get us. Damn them!

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

You Defenders of the Mediots are a riot. We have a pack of E-Lie Lovers on the board, and a pack of Mediot Defenders.

Anybody that is willing to listen and pay attention knows the mediots have a narrative they have created and they continually feed that narrative. To think otherwise is complete lunacy.

I havent read where anybody has claimed that a mediot conspiracy exists, or that the mediots are out to get us, or that they get together with lattes. Thats the strawmen you Defenders of the Mediots have created.

Screamin A is a member of "The Media" no? He has no narrative or agenda?

Skippy Brainless, is he not a member of "The Media?" No narrative or agenda?

Ben & Skin? Calvin Watkins? JJT? Ed Werder?

How many more need to be named?

These guys are all completely objective and just report gospel truth?

Just lil sweet innocent gatherers of true information to report to the masses?

They're arent a bunch of clowns simply parroting the existing narrative?

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[Alexander]

You Defenders of the Mediots are a riot. We have a pack of E-Lie Lovers on the board, and a pack of Mediot Defenders.

Who is "defending them"?

Just because they happen to be, oh, I don't know, sometimes right about a franchise that has struggled, that means "defending"?

They are doing their jobs in the world there is right now.

Do I like it? Not especially. Most is verbal diarrhea.

I think most people would love cold, objective, analytical, fact-based reporting.

But, guess what. It does not exist anymore.

Anywhere.

I wish Walter Cronkite was on the news. But unfortunately, he is not around.

And he has been replaced.

Anybody that is willing to listen and pay attention knows the mediots have a narrative they have created and they continually feed that narrative. To think otherwise is complete lunacy.

Earth shattering news here.

The Cowboys, driven by a lunatic owner who craves attention, get attention from lazy "mediots" who he indulges with plenty of material.

Again, damn them.

I havent read where anybody has claimed that a mediot conspiracy exists, or that the mediots are out to get us, or that they get together with lattes. Thats the strawmen you Defenders of the Mediots have created.

Back in the day, we used to laugh at this kind of perception.

The Commanders fans used to do it all the time at Extremeskins.

Now, it is here.

Congratulations.

eamin A is a member of "The Media" no? He has no narrative or agenda?

Skippy Brainless, is he not a member of "The Media?" No narrative or agenda?

Ben & Skin? Calvin Watkins? JJT? Ed Werder?

How many more need to be named?

These guys are all completely objective and just report gospel truth?

Just lil sweet innocent gatherers of true information to report to the masses?

They're arent a bunch of clowns simply parroting the existing narrative?

I have said it before and I will say it again.

If "agenda" became a banned word here, this board would be so much more intellectual because it would rob people of buzzwords they use to try to sound like they have an idea of what they are trying to debate.

Everyone, yes, everyone has an "agenda".

Your "agenda" here is to bleat about the media and how those terrible awful unscrupulous people don't speak the truth, the truth as you want to see it.

Get over it. Seriously.

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Cute parrots.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Who is "defending them"?

Just because they happen to be, oh, I don't know, sometimes right about a franchise that has struggled, that means "defending"?

They are doing their jobs in the world there is right now.

Do I like it? Not especially. Most is verbal diarrhea.

I think most people would love cold, objective, analytical, fact-based reporting.

But, guess what. It does not exist anymore.

Anywhere.

I wish Walter Cronkite was on the news. But unfortunately, he is not around.

And he has been replaced.



Earth shattering news here.

The Cowboys, driven by a lunatic owner who craves attention, get attention from lazy "mediots" who he indulges with plenty of material.

Again, damn them.



Back in the day, we used to laugh at this kind of perception.

The Commanders fans used to do it all the time at Extremeskins.

Now, it is here.

Congratulations.


I have said it before and I will say it again.

If "agenda" became a banned word here, this board would be so much more intellectual because it would rob people of buzzwords they use to try to sound like they have an idea of what they are trying to debate.

Everyone, yes, everyone has an "agenda".

Your "agenda" here is to bleat about the media and how those terrible awful unscrupulous people don't speak the truth, the truth as you want to see it.

Get over it. Seriously.


Cute parrots.

Oh, ok, now you've convinced me.

 

[Rockport]

Even though 90% are not posting comments which echo Stephen A. Smith or ESPN diatribes?

They are echoing his and other talking head's opinions.

 

[burmafrd]

Who is "defending them"?

Just because they happen to be, oh, I don't know, sometimes right about a franchise that has struggled, that means "defending"?

They are doing their jobs in the world there is right now.

Do I like it? Not especially. Most is verbal diarrhea.

I think most people would love cold, objective, analytical, fact-based reporting.

But, guess what. It does not exist anymore.

Anywhere.

I wish Walter Cronkite was on the news. But unfortunately, he is not around.

And he has been replaced.



Earth shattering news here.

The Cowboys, driven by a lunatic owner who craves attention, get attention from lazy "mediots" who he indulges with plenty of material.

Again, damn them.



Back in the day, we used to laugh at this kind of perception.

The Commanders fans used to do it all the time at Extremeskins.

Now, it is here.

Congratulations.


I have said it before and I will say it again.

If "agenda" became a banned word here, this board would be so much more intellectual because it would rob people of buzzwords they use to try to sound like they have an idea of what they are trying to debate.

Everyone, yes, everyone has an "agenda".

Your "agenda" here is to bleat about the media and how those terrible awful unscrupulous people don't speak the truth, the truth as you want to see it.

Get over it. Seriously.


Cute parrots.

basically you are defending them.

excuses out the yang.

Media today is 95% garbage; guys and girls I would not hire to run an elevator for me.

 

[DallasEast]

They are echoing his and other talking head's opinions.

Okay.