The main reason Rob Ryan isn't getting a HC offer

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He can't figure out how to cover the short middle and flats during blitzes. Same problem we've had for years. Every time we blitz the QB has some place to go with the ball and very rarely has to eat it. We never laid a hand on Eli and the week prior, although we got to Kolb, we made him look like a HOF'er.
Watch a lot of other teams bring the house blitzes and they usually A) get the QB because they B) take away the short, quick stuff.

I was a fan of the hiring at the time and it seemed like he injected some life early in the season but whatever magic was there is long gone and opposing teams figured him out. I don't see a lot of heart or fire anymore in our personnel. Ryan also now seems like a one-trick pony, blitz every play and watch the other team march down the field. We have pretty decent D personnel, if the D finishes the year like they are trending now, I'm gonna go ahead a say it...Ryan needs fired.
 
ghst187;4306291 said:
He can't figure out how to cover the short middle and flats during blitzes. Same problem we've had for years. Every time we blitz the QB has some place to go with the ball and very rarely has to eat it. We never laid a hand on Eli and the week prior, although we got to Kolb, we made him look like a HOF'er.
Watch a lot of other teams bring the house blitzes and they usually A) get the QB because they B) take away the short, quick stuff.

I was a fan of the hiring at the time and it seemed like he injected some life early in the season but whatever magic was there is long gone and opposing teams figured him out. I don't see a lot of heart or fire anymore in our personnel. Ryan also now seems like a one-trick pony, blitz every play and watch the other team march down the field. We have pretty decent D personnel, if the D finishes the year like they are trending now, I'm gonna go ahead a say it...Ryan needs fired.

Ryan is not getting a HC offer because he freaking blows. If Garrett has any balls left he would tell tubby to hit the road tommorow morning.
 
Main reason is he sucks, and sucks badly. You keep blitzing and blitzing and never once get a sack are you kidding me, they destroyed the secondary time after time yet he kept blitzing.
 
Falcon554;4306389 said:
Main reason is he sucks, and sucks badly. You keep blitzing and blitzing and never once get a sack are you kidding me, they destroyed the secondary time after time yet he kept blitzing.

And Garrett just stood there like a dumb arse and didnt say jack to Ryan about backing the hell off the blitzing.
 
I've never seen a guy keep blitzing after it has failed badly. Once its not working you have to go away from it.
 
Like not blitzing was really any more effective.

So now BP, Wade Phillips and Rob Ryan are all clueless defensively. It couldnt possibly be the players just arent as good as we think.
 
Doomsday;4306399 said:
Like not blitzing was really any more effective.

So now BP, Wade Phillips and Rob Ryan are all clueless defensively. It couldnt possibly be the players just arent as good as we think.

Who said Wade Phillups is clueless? He has the #2 ranked defense in the entire NFL and just won a division title today.


Comparing Rob Ryan to Wade Phillups is a freakng joke, Ryan couldnt hold Wade's jock when it comes to coordinating a defense.
 
Beast_from_East;4306400 said:
Who said Wade Phillups is clueless? He has the #2 ranked defense in the entire NFL and just won a division title today.


Comparing Rob Ryan to Wade Phillups is a freakng joke, Ryan couldnt hold Wade's jock when it comes to coordinating a defense.

Im sure you were saying the same things about Wade's ability to coordinate a defense when he was here and we were getting beat repeatedly.
 
I have no problem with blitzing.

I'd rather go do making an effort than just sit back and watch these corners get abused play after play.

If Eli had plenty of time in the face of a blitz, he could have written a thesis back there without a blitz. Ware IS the Dallas pass rush. If he's not doing it, nobody else can be relied upon to do it.

So Dallas doesn't blitz, Eli has all day and these lockdown corners Dallas has force him to throw it away?

Who believes that?

Dallas would have sat back and Eli would have passed on them just the same, if not more. No corner can cover for an eternity, not even the good ones, let alone a bunch of guys who's play fluctuates from above average, at best, to downright putrid at worst.

When you have to take your #1/#2 (depending on the week, I guess) and have him man up on the other team's #3 WR and he still can't get the job done, you got problems.

If it weren't for butter fingers, Newman would have had one of the worst plays of the year in terms of covering a guy. Literally just outmatched on that play like LSU versus a local JV team.
 
RoyTheHammer;4306404 said:
Im sure you were saying the same things about Wade's ability to coordinate a defense when he was here and we were getting beat repeatedly.

Actually no, I was blaming Garrett just as much for the 1-7 start.


I was against hiring Garrett over an established HC and you see where that has gotten us. Blowing 3 games in a manner in which only happened 2 times in the previous 50 years of the franchise, iceing his own kicker, and having Jerry yelling at him to call timeout kinda proves my point.

Garrett and the DC that he hired have embarrassed this franchise on a level never seen before.
 
Doomsday;4306399 said:
Like not blitzing was really any more effective.

So now BP, Wade Phillips and Rob Ryan are all clueless defensively. It couldnt possibly be the players just arent as good as we think.

:signmast:
 
Beast_from_East;4306409 said:
Actually no, I was blaming Garrett just as much for the 1-7 start.


I was against hiring Garrett over an established HC and you see where that has gotten us. Blowing 3 games in a manner in which only happened 2 times in the previous 50 years of the franchise, iceing his own kicker, and having Jerry yelling at him to call timeout kinda proves my point.

Garrett and the DC that he hired have embarrassed this franchise on a level never seen before.

Worse than 1-7 and a team that was talked about as super bowl contenders basically quitting on themselves, their coach, and their organization?

Yeaa.. not quite there yet.

:rolleyes:
 
RoyTheHammer;4306415 said:
Worse than 1-7 and a team that was talked about as super bowl contenders basically quitting on themselves, their coach, and their organization?

Yeaa.. not quite there yet.

:rolleyes:

I guess you slept through the part where Wade won 2 division titles and a playoff game.

Kinda a shame because it is going to be a hell of a long time before we win another playoff game with Mr. Princeton at the helm.
 
Beast_from_East;4306400 said:
Who said Wade Phillups is clueless? He has the #2 ranked defense in the entire NFL and just won a division title today.


Comparing Rob Ryan to Wade Phillups is a freakng joke, Ryan couldnt hold Wade's jock when it comes to coordinating a defense.

Slightly inflated by the offenses he has faced but still deserves credit.

They'd probably be ranked really high if they weren't in that division but the fact that their division is so horrid at scoring really helps them out.

If you look at offensive scoring right now, 12 of their games this year will be against teams with a scoring rank of 16th or worse, 9 games will be against teams with scoring ranks of 22nd or worse and 5 games will come against the bottom 4 scoring teams in the NFL.

The only offenses they has played include New Orleans, who hung 40 on them and Balitmore who went for 29.

Everyone else is ranked outside of the top 10 with only 1 other team (ATL 10 points) thus far (they play carolina this week) coming against a team that is in the top 15.

Dallas thus far played 4 of the top 7 scoring teams and 6 of the top 15 scoring teams.

Looking at rankings right now and the schedule, that's gonna mean Dallas plays 5 games against teams with top 7 scoring offenses and 6 games against teams in the top 15. Of course, Dallas has played some of the worst as well but Houstons opponent rankings are heavily skewed toward the *** end.

But like I said, he deserves credit. You only play who's in front of you and he's done what he is supposed to do in beating the hell out of lesser teams. Wish Dallas could say the same.

That team reminds me a lot of the 2003 Cowboys. Good defense and a favorable schedule.
 
Beast_from_East;4306419 said:
I guess you slept through the part where Wade won 2 division titles and a playoff game.

Kinda a shame because it is going to be a hell of a long time before we win another playoff game with Mr. Princeton at the helm.

You give me the chance to go back and get another coach for the time Wade was here and he can have those division titles and 1 playoff win.

Keep em. He left the team infinitely worse than when he arrived. Without a doubt, all that noise they made in 2007 and the run in 2009 ended up being just a few of the bright spots in an otherwise wasted period of time.
 
Cowboys blitz = get burned.
Cowboys rush only 4 = get burned.
Cowboys rush 3 = get burned.
Holy hell, what are the other options?
Can we put Ware on a sling shot and catapult him over the offensive line?
 
Beast_from_East;4306419 said:
I guess you slept through the part where Wade won 2 division titles and a playoff game.

Kinda a shame because it is going to be a hell of a long time before we win another playoff game with Mr. Princeton at the helm.

Well i was pretty tired that day..


Seriously though, i'm well aware of what he did here. That doesn't change the fact that if i went back and looked im sure i could find posts of yours last year saying negative things about Wade and his coaching ability.
 
Everlastingxxx;4306429 said:
Cowboys blitz = get burned.
Cowboys rush only 4 = get burned.
Cowboys rush 3 = get burned.
Holy hell, what are the other options?
Can we put Ware on a sling shot and catapult him over the offensive line?
That made me laugh out loud. I can see them setting up the trebuchet and then cutting the cord and having Ware fly over.
 
Falcon554;4306389 said:
Main reason is he sucks, and sucks badly. You keep blitzing and blitzing and never once get a sack are you kidding me, they destroyed the secondary time after time yet he kept blitzing.

Does anybody ever think it might be the players? I'm not supporting all that blitzing, but if you don't have the players to execute it, stop freaking doing it.
 
Doomsday;4306399 said:
Like not blitzing was really any more effective.

So now BP, Wade Phillips and Rob Ryan are all clueless defensively. It couldnt possibly be the players just arent as good as we think.

Thank you. Let's use our "outside" brain people.
 

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