The media does not pick on Ben or Eli like they do Romo.

[Nav22]

Watching Ben and Eli win Super bowls are perfect example on how its a team game.

Don't you bring that trash in here, buddy. QB-ball is my favorite sport and I don't take kindly to anyone dissing it.

 

[5Stars]

As good of a win over the Stealers was, Romo did not win the game, Carr did.

Romo and the offense did their part, and the defense did theirs, and special teams did theirs which = win.

Why people and the "realists" think it's a one man show is beyond me?

 

[cwbyfan72]

you wanna hear a team bashing? listen to Sirius NFL radio. Every lead in to a segment is the Jets play by play announcers from last night, with the Benny Hill music behind it. I heard it at least 5 times today!!!

 

[DFWJC]

Just kidding.

Ben played well.

Now Eli, on the other hand....

I'm not sure how he always seems to dodge the critics.

 

[5Stars]

Ben played well.

Now Eli, on the other hand....

I'm not sure how he always seems to dodge the critics.

He's a Manning...and they got rings.

 

[perrykemp]

I enjoyed this post tremendously. Thank you, sir.

Nav -- you are truly living in a fantasy world if you don't believe that QBs aren't measured by Superbowls.

 

[5Stars]

Nav -- you are truly living in a fantasy world if you don't believe that QBs aren't measured by Superbowls.

Is Dan Marino in the HOF?

Do you think Trent Dilfer will get into the HOF?

 

[DFWJC]

I shudder at the media reaction if Romo had thrown the INT in OT like number 7 in black did.

It would be talked about for at least 5 years. I'm not exaggerating.
And by then, some here with selective memory may even magnify it into 2-3 picks and an overall dreadful day that cost us potentially a long playoff run. :laugh2:

 

[perrykemp]

Is Dan Marino in the HOF?

Do you think Trent Dilfer will get into the HOF?

Dan Marino at least played in Superbowl. He played in a ton of playoff games.

 

[iceberg]

Trent Dilfer - Dan Marino

Dan dilfer?

 

[5Stars]

Dan dilfer?

That would be one hell of a QB!

:laugh2:

 

[perrykemp]

That would be one hell of a QB!

:laugh2:

An even a better analyst.

 

[iceberg]

An even a better analyst.

ROFL!!

 

[Nav22]

Nav -- you are truly living in a fantasy world if you don't believe that QBs aren't measured by Superbowls.

And that's how YOU form your opinions? Based on how OTHERS measure a QB's career?

I can form a long list of terrific QBs who never even played in a Super Bowl, and I can also form a long list of mediocre QBs who have played in and even won Super Bowls.

You can probably do the same, can't you?

Hell, watch the sport and use your brain. Did Tony Romo really beat the Steelers all by himself? Did Eli Manning and the mighty 17 points his Giants offense scored win the Super Bowl by himself, against arguably the best offense of this era (2007 Patriots)?

If you answered "no" to those questions, it's time to re-think your stance on the importance of team success when judging individual players.

Aside from that advice, I really can't help you. As someone who works in televised sports, I know how powerful the media's take truly is on the general public. It's funny to me.

 

[5Stars]

And that's how YOU form your opinions? Based on how OTHERS measure a QB's career?

I can form a long list of terrific QBs who never even played in a Super Bowl, and I can also form a long list of mediocre QBs who have played in and even won Super Bowls.

You can probably do the same, can't you?

Hell, watch the sport and use your brain. Did Tony Romo really beat the Steelers all by himself? Did Eli Manning and the mighty 17 points his Giants offense scored win the Super Bowl by himself, against arguably the best offense of this era (2007 Patriots)?

If you answered "no" to those questions, it's time to re-think your stance on the importance of team success when judging individual players.

Aside from that advice, I really can't help you. As someone who works in televised sports, I know how powerful the media's take truly is on the general public. It's funny to me.

BOOM...son!


:laugh2:

 

[perrykemp]

And that's how YOU form your opinions? Based on how OTHERS measure a QB's career?

I can form a long list of terrific QBs who never even played in a Super Bowl, and I can also form a long list of mediocre QBs who have played in and even won Super Bowls.

You can probably do the same, can't you?

Hell, watch the sport and use your brain. Did Tony Romo really beat the Steelers all by himself? Did Eli Manning and the mighty 17 points his Giants offense scored win the Super Bowl by himself, against arguably the best offense of this era (2007 Patriots)?

If you answered "no" to those questions, it's time to re-think your stance on the importance of team success when judging individual players.

Aside from that advice, I really can't help you. As someone who works in televised sports, I know how powerful the media's take truly is on the general public. It's funny to me.

Here is what I know. Giants don't win a SB without Eli Manning at QB last season. Packers don't win it without Rodgers. Saints without Drew Brees.

All those guys had great seasons and played great in the playoffs/superbowl when it counted.

Nobody gives a squat about regular season success or statistics.

 

[5Stars]

Here is what I know. Giants don't win a SB without Eli Manning at QB last season. Packers don't win it without Rodgers. Saints without Drew Brees.

All those guys had great seasons and played great in the playoffs/superbowl when it counted.

Nobody gives a squat about regular season success or statistics.

And all those QB's you listed are great QB's that was on a good team.

Football is not static, it's dynamic.

Is Rodgers better than Romo? Probably, but who knows. And I only say that because Rodgers is a class act.

 

[TheDoctor]

And that's how YOU form your opinions? Based on how OTHERS measure a QB's career?

I can form a long list of terrific QBs who never even played in a Super Bowl, and I can also form a long list of mediocre QBs who have played in and even won Super Bowls.

You can probably do the same, can't you?

Hell, watch the sport and use your brain. Did Tony Romo really beat the Steelers all by himself? Did Eli Manning and the mighty 17 points his Giants offense scored win the Super Bowl by himself, against arguably the best offense of this era (2007 Patriots)?

If you answered "no" to those questions, it's time to re-think your stance on the importance of team success when judging individual players.

Aside from that advice, I really can't help you. As someone who works in televised sports, I know how powerful the media's take truly is on the general public. It's funny to me.

Thank you sir.

 

[tyke1doe]

Team sport, period. The Giants and Steelers wouldn't have won a thing if not for their dominant defenses, despite the media's QB fawning.

And despite their dominant defenses, if Eli doesn't complete a pass to Manningham on the sidelines or to Plaxico Burress in the end zone or Big Ben not hit Santonio Holmes at the edge of the end zone, no one's really talking about the dominant defense are they?

]quote]Again, the blissful football ignorance is a popular choice. Actually, it's the MOST popular choice. I'm not scolding you or anyone else for choosing it.Actually, my opinion of Romo has never changed, and I'm definitely not giving him all the credit for our recent success.[/quote]

Fair enough. As long as you're consistent. But I find it interesting that most of the commentators, who actually played in the NFL, seem to think the quarterback and his play is pretty significant in winning championships. Are they ignorant?

If Carr doesn't make the play of the game Sunday, we might not win. If Victor Butler doesn't force the fumble on the punt return, we probably don't win.

If our D doesn't hold the Bengals out of the endzone time and time again (or if they don't drop several possible INTs), we definitely don't win.

See how that works? You don't over-hype the QB after a win just like you don't pin it all on them after a loss. Team sport. Everybody plays a role.

But again, blissful football ignorance is a pretty sweet deal. Who wants to be in the minority, anyways?

I think that's understood. But if it's just a team game and the game should only be focused on the team, why do quarterbacks make the money that they do? Why doesn't every starting position make equal money?

 

[DallasInDC]

Actually, the Giants have been getting hammered for their piss-poor showing against the Falcons.

As for Big Ben, why would he get bashed? He threw an interception, true. But that was just an outstanding play by Brandon Carr. As I say with other teams when it happens to the Cowboys, I say it with the Cowboys also. Sometimes, a player (in this case Brandon Carr) just makes a greater play. Yes, Big Ben threw the ball slightly behind the receiver. But Carr made an excellent read and grab to snag the ball.

But let's stop this before it starts. I don't know why some people fail to understand that when a quarterback wins multwiple Super Bowls, he gets a certain leeway.

Resist it or hate it all you want, but that's just the way it is.

Romo has not done that yet. Until he does, when he makes a mistake, it's going to get magnified more so than if Eli (two rings) and Big Ben (two rings, three appearances) make a mistake.

Is it unfair? Yes. No. Maybe so.

It's not that simple. I have seen Matty ice and P rivers make the same time types of mistakes and not get skewered the way romo does. How many rings do they have.