The mettle of a good coach is truly measured when...

[Bleu Star]

...that coach is willing to step outside of his box for the benefit of the team as a whole.

Prime example: Marty Schottenheimer

What you see in San Diego nowadays is definitely not Martyball. This guy has adapted his offense to the the skill of the player instead of making the player fit his offense perfectly. I applaud him for being dynamic enough to do such a thing.

Another coach that comes to mind off the top of my head is Bill Bellichek. The guy can beat you so many ways. You take the run away his offense morphs into a passing dynamo. Take the pass away and he beats you with Dillon and Maroney. The guy's realm of creativity is endless and his players rally around that.

My point is simply this... If this team is to win and continue to grow Parcells is going to have to let up off of the reigns just a tad. He is going to have to think outside if the box a little. I'm not sure at his age he is prepared to or even cares to do so.

Just another random thought...

 

[wileedog]

Marty is 5-19 in the playoffs. "Martyball" as a term refers to his consistent trait of going ultra conservative in games that matter.

Sounds pretty dynamic to me.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

...that coach is willing to step outside of his box for the benefit of the team as a whole.

Prime example: Marty Schottenheimer

What you see in San Diego nowadays is definitely not Martyball. This guy has adapted his offense to the the skill of the player instead of making the player fit his offense perfectly. I applaud him for being dynamic enough to do such a thing.

Another coach that comes to mind off the top of my head is Bill Bellichek. The guy can beat you so many ways. You take the run away his offense morphs into a passing dynamo. Take the pass away and he beats you with Dillon and Maroney. The guy's realm of creativity is endless and his players rally around that.

My point is simply this... If this team is to win and continue to grow Parcells is going to have to let up off of the reigns just a tad. He is going to have to think outside if the box a little. I'm not sure at his age he is prepared to or even cares to do so.

Just another random thought...

And not a bad one, considering the source. :laugh2: (You were missed today - hope you got some work done).

As for Schottenheimer, the smart money is on waiting til AFTER the playoffs are over before throwing the dirt on "MartyBall's" coffin.

That play-not-to- lose tendency of Marty's has a way of rearing its real ugly head in playoff season - and stronger than ever.

But yeah, as of now, it looks like Marty has managed to triumph over what have to be very powerful urges to revert to......draw plays.

 

[theebs]

And not a bad one, considering the source. :laugh2: (You were missed today - hope you got some work done).

As for Schottenheimer, the smart money is on waiting til AFTER the playoffs are over before throwing the dirt on "MartyBall's" coffin.

That play-not-to- lose tendency of Marty's has a way of rearing its real ugly head in playoff season - and stronger than ever.

But yeah, as of now, it looks like Marty has managed to triumph over what have to be very powerful urges to revert to......draw plays.

I really like marty and wade phillips. Thery were set to be our head coach and dc in 88. Landry at the last moment decided to come back and marty went to kc.

we would have had marty ball here and never traded walker i bet!!!

having said that, I think san diego is set up for a huge letdown.

 

[Bleu Star]

You were missed today

You don't need me to carry on your hate campaign. Just continue creating one hate thread after another. As long as it says something negative about TO the same hate lemmings will follow each other right into it. It's really old and tired. The constant belittling of one cog in our team is truly uninspiring. It's like going to wal mart and having that same greeter try to hand you a freaking happy face every visit. No I don't want your happy face. Not now. Not ever. Do I look 6 years old?

I can't relate to the amount of hate that has permeated this board. A certain group of people have somehow managed to mask the real problems with this team and focus in solely on one particular portion of them. One of many. as I have stated time and time again, TO was not here when we went 2-2 in December of 2003, nor was he here when we went 2-2 in December of 04 as well as 05. It's the same old song and dance for the 4th year in a row yet the same group of people are blind to the individuals that have maintained that continuity with the team. TO came in this year and he's suddenly the solutuon as soon as he leaves the team. That's hogwash today and it will be hogwash tomorrow. So, feel free to venture back over to your hate threads and I will continue to offer constructive opinions and criticism of the issues on this team that I find greater than your little ball of hate.

You might want to go ahead an make another TO hate thread. It's about that time. The latest one has just about reached it's shelf life.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You might want to go ahead an make another TO hate thread. It's about that time. The latest one has just about reached it's shelf life.

Give me a sec....I will go check the DMN for another JJT special.

 

[Bleu Star]

Give me a sec....I will go check the DMN for another JJT special.

Great. While you're at it try to keep this thread on topic now that's you've connected with me here as well.

 

[Hostile]

You don't need me to carry on your hate campaign. Just continue creating one hate thread after another. As long as it says something negative about TO the same hate lemmings will follow each other right into it. It's really old and tired. The constant belittling of one cog in our team is truly uninspiring. It's like going to wal mart and having that same greeter try to hand you a freaking happy face every visit. No I don't want your happy face. Not now. Not ever. Do I look 6 years old?

I can't relate to the amount of hate that has permeated this board. A certain group of people have somehow managed to mask the real problems with this team and focus in solely on one particular portion of them. One of many. as I have stated time and time again, TO was not here when we went 2-2 in December of 2003, nor was he here when we went 2-2 in December of 04 as well as 05. It's the same old song and dance for the 4th year in a row yet the same group of people are blind to the individuals that have maintained that continuity with the team. TO came in this year and he's suddenly the solutuon as soon as he leaves the team. That's hogwash today and it will be hogwash tomorrow. So, feel free to venture back over to your hate threads and I will continue to offer constructive opinions and criticism of the issues on this team that I find greater than your little ball of hate.

You might want to go ahead an make another TO hate thread. It's about that time. The latest one has just about reached it's shelf life.

No hate in your sig pic right?

Sorry, but this condescending diatribe comes across as pretty hypocritical.

 

[Bleu Star]

No hate in your sig pic right?

Sorry, but this condescending diatribe comes across as pretty hypocritical.

Color me hypocritical too then.

 

[Hostile]

Color me hypocritical too then.

If you wish. No room to be preaching when the pedastal you're standing on is that narrow.

 

[Bleu Star]

If you wish. No room to be preaching when the pedastal you're standing on is that narrow.

No probs at all. I welcome any and all TO haters to feel free to let themselves be heard by this Zimmer hater anytime.

 

[ndanger]

No hate in your sig pic right?

Sorry, but this condescending diatribe comes across as pretty hypocritical.

Not to mention he's disgracing a really great band ( tool )

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Great. While you're at it try to keep this thread on topic now that's you've connected with me here as well.

You know what, I challenge you to find THREE anti-TO threads I have ever started.

I challenge you to find TWO, in fact.

You just maintained all I do on this board is start TO hate threads.

When in reality, 99% of the threads I post here are relaying articles, which I've done for four years now.

Go ahead.

Find them. :laugh2:

And btw, YOU brought TO and hate into this thread, which I kept to Marty.

 

[ndanger]

You know what, I challenge you to find THREE anti-TO threads I have ever started.

I challenge you to find TWO, in fact.

You just maintained all I do on this board is start TO hate threads.

When in reality, 99% of the threads I post here are relaying articles, which I've done for four years now.

Go ahead.

Find them. :laugh2:

And btw, YOU brought TO and hate into this thread, which I kept to Marty.

You go girl, sic 'em.

 

[Jimz31]

You know what, I challenge you to find THREE anti-TO threads I have ever started.

I challenge you to find TWO, in fact.

You just maintained all I do on this board is start TO hate threads.

When in reality, 99% of the threads I post here are relaying articles, which I've done for four years now.

Go ahead.

Find them. :laugh2:

And btw, YOU brought TO and hate into this thread, which I kept to Marty.

I'm trying to think of one that I started as well.

Yeah, it is kinda funny how HE brought it back to T.O......

Now, I will agree with you Bleu that a coach that is versatile enough to look at ALL of his players....NOT just ONE, and implement the system that would be best for the TEAM is the best type of coach to have.

Now, as far as our TEAM, not just ONE player goes, what type of offense would you rather see?

 

[Bleu Star]

Not to mention he's disgracing a really great band ( tool )

Sorry man. I'll take it down soon. My sig changes all the time. It's "dynamic". (something very alien to our offense)

 

[Bleu Star]

Now, as far as our TEAM, not just ONE player goes, what type of offense would you rather see?

I don't profess to have all the answers. I prefer to discuss issues with those that offer up something in return.

 

[Jimz31]

I don't profess to have all the answers. I prefer to discuss issues with those that offer up something in return.

Fair enough.

I would also like to see slants, not just by T.O., but by Crayton as well.

This may be the best offense for our players, although, getting away from the run as soon as you are behind by 1 point is getting a little bit old.

 

[Bleu Star]

You know what, I challenge you to find THREE anti-TO threads I have ever started.

I challenge you to find TWO, in fact.

You just maintained all I do on this board is start TO hate threads.

When in reality, 99% of the threads I post here are relaying articles, which I've done for four years now.

Go ahead.

Find them. :laugh2:

And btw, YOU brought TO and hate into this thread, which I kept to Marty.

right...

You missed me today? What about me did you miss? Sorry I wasn't around to participate in yet another bash TO show.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

right...

You missed me today? What about me did you miss? Sorry I wasn't around to participate in yet another bash TO show.

Find ONE TO bash thread I have ever started.

You might be able to find ONE, but it'll sure be only one.

Yes, I loathe the guy. But I do try to temper my hatred.

Believe me, you've seen just the tip of the iceberg of my dislike, but in the interests of a family board, I don't usually say what I'd like to.

And of course, when a fellow poster complained a week or so back about my use of the words "TO Jock Sniffers", I promised to refrain from using the incendiary term if the label 'hater' ceased to be constantly thrown about.

Guess who held her part of the bargain, but saw zero in return?

Well, it's only cyber space, but one expects some integrity.

But that's okay..I thought you had a sense of humour about ALL of this.

As I do.

But I was wrong.

We can just leave each other be.

I can manage to not respond to your posts in the future.