The most frustrating thing about yesterday's game

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By far the most frustrating part of yesterday's game was the realization that Jason Garrett still has not figured out why teams win and lose in the NFL. He continues to buy into the faulty notion that running the ball and the clock will lead to wins even as the strategy fails time and time again for his own team.

You win by passing better than your opponent, and that means you need to push the ball down the field and not feature the same dumpoff passing game that we've seen from Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and now Dak Prescott. Clearly the gameplan is to be extremely conservative on offense and in the passing game, and all that does is lead to close losses.

Jason Garrett needs to be fired because it's clear after 89 games that he doesn't understand how to win in the NFL, and it's unlikely he ever will.
 

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Goose wrote about this a few months ago. The best time of possession team last year had an average TOP of 33 minutes. Means your D, would still be on the field for 27 minutes.
This won't work.
 

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Garrett should be fired if he's responsible for ignoring placing a higher priority in draft on defense line.

That's not the core issue. The root problem is that Jason Garrett doesn't understand what causes teams to win and lose in the NFL. In fact, his priorities are almost exactly opposite the primary causes for winning games. He's been elevated to mediocre over his career because he has had an all-time great quarterback who masks a significant amount of the flaws in Garrett's mindset. Garrett's philosophy ensures failure over the long haul.
 

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By far the most frustrating part of yesterday's game was the realization that Jason Garrett still has not figured out why teams win and lose in the NFL. He continues to buy into the faulty notion that running the ball and the clock will lead to wins even as the strategy fails time and time again for his own team.

You win by passing better than your opponent, and that means you need to push the ball down the field and not feature the same dumpoff passing game that we've seen from Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and now Dak Prescott. Clearly the gameplan is to be extremely conservative on offense and in the passing game, and all that does is lead to close losses.

Jason Garrett needs to be fired because it's clear after 89 games that he doesn't understand how to win in the NFL, and it's unlikely he ever will.

I think the part I laughed at the most were the utterly predictable TE screens on third and longs. That's textbook Garrett/Linehan conservative play calling 101.

And I don't think they are changing. They will try to play every game close like that. And they will lose most of them if they do that IMO.
 

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The most frustrating thing about yesterday's game is:
  • Losing to the freaking Giants.
  • Realizing that Jerry could simply put up blinds to stop the sun from interfering with the game. Towards the end of the game, we actually had a disadvantage in our own stadium.
  • Twill is not a smart player. Coming from Baylor, I expected just a little more intelligence and situational awareness. His post game comments makes him even more unlikeable. Terrible post game comments. Accept blame, apologize, and move on.
  • Watching a terrible Giants defense get better through off season free agent acquisitions. For at least one game, it made a difference.
  • Knowing that free got beat by a man with 3 fingers
 

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If they really believe in Dak, and I mean the front office, they will be doing a disservice to him by not bringing in someone to help him succeed IMO.
 

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In some respects, I can't fault the play calling. We all think that Dak is a seasoned veteran, but he's not. You don't want to ruin the confidence of your young quarterback by giving him too much to do.
 

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If they really believe in Dak, and I mean the front office, they will be doing a disservice to him by not bringing in someone to help him succeed IMO.
like who? not ragging on you at all - just wanting more of what you're thinking detail wise. coaching? better wr's?
 

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In some respects, I can't fault the play calling. We all think that Dak is a seasoned veteran, but he's not. You don't want to ruin the confidence of your young quarterback by giving him too much to do.

Didn't seem to bother the Eagles who let Wentz throw the ball all over the field, make audible calls, etc.

I think the whole, "you can't overload a rookie QB" thing is overblown and actually can hurt more than harm. I mean by playing conservative yesterday and trying to limit what Prescott could and couldn't do, what did that exactly do for him? Probably not much.

Let the kid play for chrissakes. What's the worst that can happen? You lose a game? Well how's that different from the results when you played conservative this game and much of last season?
 

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Re-watch the game.

Most of the underneath passes had one or two deeper options as well.

Just go look at the tape.
 

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By far the most frustrating part of yesterday's game was the realization that Jason Garrett still has not figured out why teams win and lose in the NFL. He continues to buy into the faulty notion that running the ball and the clock will lead to wins even as the strategy fails time and time again for his own team.

You win by passing better than your opponent, and that means you need to push the ball down the field and not feature the same dumpoff passing game that we've seen from Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and now Dak Prescott. Clearly the gameplan is to be extremely conservative on offense and in the passing game, and all that does is lead to close losses.

Jason Garrett needs to be fired because it's clear after 89 games that he doesn't understand how to win in the NFL, and it's unlikely he ever will.

Well, I think we were more balanced. We had ball control but just could not finish in the redzone. Dak was throwing underneath and dump offs because they were doubling the outside. He took a couple shots downfield to keep them honest but he took what the defense gave him. I've seen Romo do this. You can't blame Dak for Receivers not catching the ball for scores, ie...Beasley & Dez. We blew opportunities, plain and simple.

I do agree that the coaches aren't making any adjustments. Why didn't Irving play? The secondary played good considering we didn't have a pass rush. We have to find a pass rush or implement some blitz packages. If this is how the DL is going to play against a bad Oline....we're in for a long season.

But, hey, it is a 16 game schedule. Did we really expect to go 16-0? We're going to lose some. Apparently, McAdoo thinks we look, at worst, descent when he told his team in the lockerroom to stay humbe cause we have to play this team down the road.
 

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By far the most frustrating part of yesterday's game was the realization that Jason Garrett still has not figured out why teams win and lose in the NFL. He continues to buy into the faulty notion that running the ball and the clock will lead to wins even as the strategy fails time and time again for his own team.

You win by passing better than your opponent, and that means you need to push the ball down the field and not feature the same dumpoff passing game that we've seen from Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel and now Dak Prescott. Clearly the gameplan is to be extremely conservative on offense and in the passing game, and all that does is lead to close losses.

Jason Garrett needs to be fired because it's clear after 89 games that he doesn't understand how to win in the NFL, and it's unlikely he ever will.
This approach only works consistently when your defense is dominant (see Denver last Thursday). His formula offense works if your D is good at getting stops and even more importantly taking the ball away.
 

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Didn't seem to bother the Eagles who let Wentz throw the ball all over the field, make audible calls, etc.
Did you watch that game? The Browns definitely lived up to their reputation on all 3 facets of the game. Matthews was gouging them with 5-6 yd runs every single time. Our #1 O-line couldn't even get things going with Zeke. Is that our O-line or the Giants D-line? Mixture of both? Either way, I feel pretty confident that our O-line and RB's would have had their way with the Browns to the point that Dak doesn't have to have face 3rd and longs and pass 45 times. That's the difference. Good for Wentz, he looked good, but the Browns are not a good measuring stick.
 

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Didn't seem to bother the Eagles who let Wentz throw the ball all over the field, make audible calls, etc.

I think the whole, "you can't overload a rookie QB" thing is overblown and actually can hurt more than harm. I mean by playing conservative yesterday and trying to limit what Prescott could and couldn't do, what did that exactly do for him? Probably not much.

Let the kid play for chrissakes. What's the worst that can happen? You lose a game? Well how's that different from the results when you played conservative this game and much of last season?

They were playing the Browns.

Second, there's a reason why Wentz went second overall. Usually, where a rookie is selected is based on talent, ability, measurable, etc.
Most of the experts I read thought Wentz was worthy of a top pick. Hence, he was further along in his development as a football player and had more of the measurable than did Dak.

And I believe Wentz's deep ball and overall throws are better than Dak's. That may be a reason why Wentz did a little bit better than Dak did.

Dak is not there yet. Again, I don't know if we want to overwhelm him and ruin his gradual learning curve.
 

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That's not the core issue. The root problem is that Jason Garrett doesn't understand what causes teams to win and lose in the NFL. In fact, his priorities are almost exactly opposite the primary causes for winning games. He's been elevated to mediocre over his career because he has had an all-time great quarterback who masks a significant amount of the flaws in Garrett's mindset. Garrett's philosophy ensures failure over the long haul.
Romo has been masking an awful defense for years. Coaching is a secondary issue.

If he's ignoring building the defense with as many top picks as on offense then Id agree he doesn't understand what wins.
 
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