The Myth of the Bell Cow

[Jstopper]

You are 100% correct on your take of the situation. Would anybody on this board want RBBC if the team had Gurley, Gordon or even AP. If Murray was resigned, do you think fans would want him to split carries with two other RBs ? RBBC is just used by teams when they don't have a quality RB on the roster. In some cases, it is due to the offense being a passing offense. Without the running game last season, this would have been a 8-8 team. Passing 50 times a game and putting the workload on Romo has been tried and failed.

Why do you speak on the situation as if there are only two options? Two extremes and no in between available? Our defense looks better this year than it has at any point from 2011-2014. So let's say the running game is a little less effective( so instead of running 51% of the time we run 45%) and we vamp up the passing a little more (instead of 49% passing we pass 55% of the time) that isn't asking Romo to shoulder the load. It's a little more passing with him being actually healthy this offseason participating in OTA's not having to protect his back so much. With that pass/run ration along with an improved defense I say we will be a better than we were even last year. All the running in the world isn't what made us lose in the playoffs, it was a lack of pass rush and stopping the passing game.

 

[Stash]

You are 100% correct on your take of the situation. Would anybody on this board want RBBC if the team had Gurley, Gordon or even AP. If Murray was resigned, do you think fans would want him to split carries with two other RBs ? RBBC is just used by teams when they don't have a quality RB on the roster. In some cases, it is due to the offense being a passing offense. Without the running game last season, this would have been a 8-8 team. Passing 50 times a game and putting the workload on Romo has been tried and failed.

Whole lot of truth here, preach it!

 

[Doomsday101]

Why do you speak on the situation as if there are only two options? Two extremes and no in between available? Our defense looks better this year than it has at any point from 2011-2014. So let's say the running game is a little less effective( so instead of running 51% of the time we run 45%) and we vamp up the passing a little more (instead of 49% passing we pass 55% of the time) that isn't asking Romo to shoulder the load. It's a little more passing with him being actually healthy this offseason participating in OTA's not having to protect his back so much. With that pass/run ration along with an improved defense I say we will be a better than we were even last year. All the running in the world isn't what made us lose in the playoffs, it was a lack of pass rush and stopping the passing game.

and depending on how the running game goes that could be the case that passing would be up a bit from last year. If that happens I think we will see Beasley role increase from last season. With Dallas using the short routs to Cole much like we have seen out of Welker

 

[jnday]

Why do you speak on the situation as if there are only two options? Two extremes and no in between available? Our defense looks better this year than it has at any point from 2011-2014. So let's say the running game is a little less effective( so instead of running 51% of the time we run 45%) and we vamp up the passing a little more (instead of 49% passing we pass 55% of the time) that isn't asking Romo to shoulder the load. It's a little more passing with him being actually healthy this offseason participating in OTA's not having to protect his back so much. With that pass/run ration along with an improved defense I say we will be a better than we were even last year. All the running in the world isn't what made us lose in the playoffs, it was a lack of pass rush and stopping the passing game.

If not for the running game, there would be no playoff game to lose. Why argue with the fact that this is s running team and the running game produced much better results. As for the defense, Hardy will miss up to ten games. Other than that, rookies don't usually have much of an impact . Not enough to make the defense into a unit that can be counted on for a stop when needed. After a couple of years, the investment in the defense should really show up, but this season I expect flashes of good play from the rookies and not much more.

 

[Jstopper]

If not for the running game, there would be no playoff game to lose. Why argue with the fact that this is s running team and the running game produced much better results. As for the defense, Hardy will miss up to ten games. Other than that, rookies don't usually have much of an impact . Not enough to make the defense into a unit that can be counted on for a stop when needed. After a couple of years, the investment in the defense should really show up, but this season I expect flashes of good play from the rookies and not much more.

Hardy will not miss 10 games. Rookies aren't the only addition to our defense. Not to mention I bet those top rookies outperform the jag veterans they were replacing. Sean lee is back, Rolando with another year in out system plus offseason, demarcus Lawrence 2nd year Tyrone Crawford stepping up, another year of oline sticking together. Enough areas of our team have improved that not having an 1800 yard rusher isn't going to kill us. We HAD to have that to be competitive last year. This year not so much

 

[MichaelWinicki]

and depending on how the running game goes that could be the case that passing would be up a bit from last year. If that happens I think we will see Beasley role increase from last season. With Dallas using the short routs to Cole much like we have seen out of Welker

I agree with that.

 

[blindzebra]

Why do you speak on the situation as if there are only two options? Two extremes and no in between available? Our defense looks better this year than it has at any point from 2011-2014. So let's say the running game is a little less effective( so instead of running 51% of the time we run 45%) and we vamp up the passing a little more (instead of 49% passing we pass 55% of the time) that isn't asking Romo to shoulder the load. It's a little more passing with him being actually healthy this offseason participating in OTA's not having to protect his back so much. With that pass/run ration along with an improved defense I say we will be a better than we were even last year. All the running in the world isn't what made us lose in the playoffs, it was a lack of pass rush and stopping the passing game.

That is this bunch"s MO. There is no grey, just black and white. The same group did the same thing with 8-8 and Garrett, it was 100% Garrett's fault and all play calling. It had nothing to do with injuries, a lack of talent in the trenches, or horrific defense. They were wrong then and wrong now as well.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why do you speak on the situation as if there are only two options? Two extremes and no in between available? Our defense looks better this year than it has at any point from 2011-2014. So let's say the running game is a little less effective( so instead of running 51% of the time we run 45%) and we vamp up the passing a little more (instead of 49% passing we pass 55% of the time) that isn't asking Romo to shoulder the load. It's a little more passing with him being actually healthy this offseason participating in OTA's not having to protect his back so much. With that pass/run ration along with an improved defense I say we will be a better than we were even last year. All the running in the world isn't what made us lose in the playoffs, it was a lack of pass rush and stopping the passing game.

 

[RoboQB]

They do support my point. You just want to ignore the fact that 1000 is itself an arbitrary achievement, but the fact that they didn't even make that number supports the fact that a team doesn't need a player to do that in order to be successful.

No. They don't.... one got injured early... the other started late due to an injury to previous starter.... both averaged more
than 62.5 ypg....which surpass the 1000 yards in 16 games requirement brought on by the OP.... which I believe was.... you.

 

[Galian Beast]

No. They don't.... one got injured early... the other started late due to an injury to previous starter.... both averaged more
than 62.5 ypg....which surpass the 1000 yards in 16 games requirement brought on by the OP.... which I believe was.... you.

You've moved the goalpost to establish something that didn't happen. Health plays a factor in a running backs production. That is part of the point. And as said before 1000 is an arbitrary goal in the first place. The inability to even reach that arbitrary goal as opposed to higher achievements made by some of the actual elite running backs is ignored when you focus on semantics.

 

[jnday]

That is this bunch"s MO. There is no grey, just black and white. The same group did the same thing with 8-8 and Garrett, it was 100% Garrett's fault and all play calling. It had nothing to do with injuries, a lack of talent in the trenches, or horrific defense. They were wrong then and wrong now as well.

With the exception of last season, this bunch has been correct for about 20 years. One 12-4 season and you seem to forget 30 years of being wrong.

 

[DandyDon52]

Murray became so effective that the Cowboys centered their whole offense on him. Murray led all rushers in 2014 with 392 rushing attempts. Tack on 44 additional attempts in the playoffs. Murray also caught 57 passes of the 64 times he was targeted. Of the 1,059 snaps the Cowboys took last season, DeMarco Murray accounted for 42.3% of their offensive plays.

so Actually 436 carries + 57 pass/ runs is 493 touches ! That is a bell cow RB.
To equal Murray 2 backs would have to have 215 carries each, or 250,100,86 for 3 backs.
But he wasnt worth keeping lol.

 

[blindzebra]

With the exception of last season, this bunch has been correct for about 20 years. One 12-4 season and you seem to forget 30 years of being wrong.

Last season proved you wrong for 3 seasons of 8-8 that were caused by rebuilding a team without blowing it up, staying realitively healthy, improving the trenches, and the defense showing improvement in getting stops when they needed to. So that is 4 out of 20. I am certain you were against removing that interim HC tag so there is 5. So should we go into the archives to dig up more? Or is reality to much for a realist?

 

[big dog cowboy]

But he wasnt worth keeping lol.

No one has said he wasn't worth keeping he clearly was. He just isn't worth $8M a year.