The Next Impact Player We Should Part With?

[proline]

I think Witten might be losing a step, but he makes up for it with savvy, guts, and leadership. He's Romo's security blanket, so losing him now might have a big impact on Tony's play. But there will come a time when the positive traits he has left no longer outweigh what he can't do, and at that time he, or the Cowboys for him, will have to make a hard decision. But that time is not now.

 

[Rampage]

Witten never has nor do I think ever will be a td threat. I think the main reason for that is he's probably one of the most unathletic tightends in the league. I don't say that as a knock on him cause instead he gets the job done with his hands of glue,smarts,precise route running,heart,toughness and blocking. But think about how often you see a TE scoring a td these days where he isn't making an athletic move like a leaping catch or something like that(Brent Clek,Vernon Davis,Antonio Gates). Now with that said I think he was banged up last season. But if he looks like he did last season again and somebody offered me two 1st rounders I would have to atleast consider it.

 

[Verdict]

To all of you short bus riding simpletons who are bashing me for making this post, I guess thinking is not really your strong suit. I am not saying Witten sucks. He has been a perennial pro bowler. His has very good to "great" trade value.

He may have another good year or two in him. He might have more. However, he might also be on the down side of his career. Witten has always been a "tough guy" playing with a broken jaw, etc. But guys who are tough guys (also like MBIII) have a tendency to get broken down over time. I am thinking that it is "possible" that last year we might have seen Witten tail off a little bit to being a mere mortal.

With players, you have to project where they will be this year, next year and thereafter. The great franchises that stay on top in the salary cap era let aging veterans go rather than outlive their contracts.

If we were to let Witten go for two firsts, he might tear it up for another year, but realistically, he is not a young player. He has some miles on that body. What sort of damage could we do with three (count 'em) 3, first round picks?

 

[Doomsday101]

To all of you short bus riding simpletons who are bashing me for making this post, I guess thinking is not really your strong suit. I am not saying Witten sucks. He has been a perennial pro bowler. His has very good to "great" trade value.

He may have another good year or two in him. He might have more. However, he might also be on the down side of his career. Witten has always been a "tough guy" playing with a broken jaw, etc. But guys who are tough guys (also like MBIII) have a tendency to get broken down over time. I am thinking that it is "possible" that last year we might have seen Witten tail off a little bit to being a mere mortal.

With players, you have to project where they will be this year, next year and thereafter. The great franchises that stay on top in the salary cap era let aging veterans go rather than outlive their contracts.

If we were to let Witten go for two firsts, he might tear it up for another year, but realistically, he is not a young player. He has some miles on that body. What sort of damage could we do with three (count 'em) 3, first round picks?

If we were a team in rebuilding you would have a legit point but we are a team who is contending you don't get rid of top players on your team.

 

[Dodger]

He's only 28 years old and has played 7 years in the NFL. Personally, I don't think he's on the downside of his career. IMO, he has many good years left.

 

[Doomsday101]

He's only 28 years old and has played 7 years in the NFL. Personally, I don't think he's on the downside of his career. IMO, he has many good years left.

I agree and if in the end he plays his entire career in Dallas and retires as a Cowboys great. Right now for this team it is about filling holes not creating holes by getting rid of top players.

 

[Vtwin]

This team is on the cusp and Witten is an integral part of this team.
Two first rounder is a heck of a lot though.
I think the only thing dumber then not trading Witten for two first rounders would be trading Witten for two first rounders.

 

[Silverstar]

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[ShiningStar]

Can we just trade away every good player and sign up everyone's washups to make the majority of this board so happy and can say "i told you so and so was better than Witten, and better than Miles, and better than Romo, or Ware" and just be done with it.

I am sick and tired of this team ending up with good players, TE"s are a dime a dozen. They just appear out of no where. Elite Corners, every day, every day they are right in the NFL and every team has one.

Sack masters, hey who doesnt have a Ware, who doesnt have a Ratliff, ha we knew Ratliff was so horrible, we waited til the 7th round to snatch him up.

And you know what the kicker is, they type lines like "how much longer can he dominate the TE position" Like its SOOOOO EASY To do. When they mention elite tight ends, the list is so long and profound. EVEN ROOKIES MAKE IT. Its so easy to draft one or pick one up.

PLEASE lets just draft another Elite TE because he'll be cheaper than WITTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


OH yeah Romo isnt doing enough and can always get better and we'll just take a flyer on any WR and win the SB just by SHOWING UP. The only reason we didnt do it this year is because the NFL wanted us to give someone else a shot, and the conspiracy to let New Orleans win is cemented in the annals of the history of the NFL.


But really, what do real fans know. We dont have Madden to play and make all those kewl trades that any GM would stumble over for.

 

[speedkilz88]

To all of you short bus riding simpletons who are bashing me for making this post, I guess thinking is not really your strong suit. I am not saying Witten sucks. He has been a perennial pro bowler. His has very good to "great" trade value.

He may have another good year or two in him. He might have more. However, he might also be on the down side of his career. Witten has always been a "tough guy" playing with a broken jaw, etc. But guys who are tough guys (also like MBIII) have a tendency to get broken down over time. I am thinking that it is "possible" that last year we might have seen Witten tail off a little bit to being a mere mortal.

With players, you have to project where they will be this year, next year and thereafter. The great franchises that stay on top in the salary cap era let aging veterans go rather than outlive their contracts.

If we were to let Witten go for two firsts, he might tear it up for another year, but realistically, he is not a young player. He has some miles on that body. What sort of damage could we do with three (count 'em) 3, first round picks?

He is a young player still, Mr. Shortbus!:laugh2:

 

[Big Dakota]

To all of you short bus riding simpletons who are bashing me for making this post, I guess thinking is not really your strong suit. I am not saying Witten sucks. He has been a perennial pro bowler. His has very good to "great" trade value.

He may have another good year or two in him. He might have more. However, he might also be on the down side of his career. Witten has always been a "tough guy" playing with a broken jaw, etc. But guys who are tough guys (also like MBIII) have a tendency to get broken down over time. I am thinking that it is "possible" that last year we might have seen Witten tail off a little bit to being a mere mortal.

With players, you have to project where they will be this year, next year and thereafter. The great franchises that stay on top in the salary cap era let aging veterans go rather than outlive their contracts.

If we were to let Witten go for two firsts, he might tear it up for another year, but realistically, he is not a young player. He has some miles on that body. What sort of damage could we do with three (count 'em) 3, first round picks?

The draft picks you aquire for a Witten are risky, as we all know, so you take the potential HOF player who's top 3 in the league at worst, even if he has only 3-4 more years at a high level. Bottom line, you just don't trade your best performers unless they are like TO or Cromartie, ect. and they have major issues. Witten, barring injury shouldn't be in real decline for several years.

 

[tko112204]

To all of you short bus riding simpletons who are bashing me for making this post, I guess thinking is not really your strong suit. I am not saying Witten sucks. He has been a perennial pro bowler. His has very good to "great" trade value.

He may have another good year or two in him. He might have more. However, he might also be on the down side of his career. Witten has always been a "tough guy" playing with a broken jaw, etc. But guys who are tough guys (also like MBIII) have a tendency to get broken down over time. I am thinking that it is "possible" that last year we might have seen Witten tail off a little bit to being a mere mortal.

With players, you have to project where they will be this year, next year and thereafter. The great franchises that stay on top in the salary cap era let aging veterans go rather than outlive their contracts.

If we were to let Witten go for two firsts, he might tear it up for another year, but realistically, he is not a young player. He has some miles on that body. What sort of damage could we do with three (count 'em) 3, first round picks?

94 catches, 1034 yards.

Dropoff my ***.

/Thread.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Dooms, i wasnt saying he had a bad season in any way, I love witten. I still think he is at the peak of performance.

Perhaps. I think he's still got a few more top years in him. And he'll still be very good as he declines slightly.

It would be stupid to get rid of your best receiver.

 

[Verdict]

Everyone kept saying MartyB was the next best thing to sliced bread. Now he is viewed by many to be an also ran. The year before last when Barber got his mega deal, everyone was saying Awesome, we have locked up the Barbarian. Now, after this year, he looks more like "Dancing with the Stars" material, you guys want to just cut him, for nothing.

I know that every poster who has vilified me above has a crystal ball that they are looking into and saying "Witten will have several more pro bowl years and remain an all pro tight end for many years to come". The problem with that premise is that it is an "opinion", not a fact. It is a glimpse into the future, and a wild *** guess. I think due to the wear and tear on his body over the past several years, I believe that Witten is a player on the decline. He is not dominating teams like he has in years past.

You can give reasons why he isn't putting up huge TD numbers as he has in years past. Some credit it to Austin's emergence (probably partially true), but some of it is also likely father time catching up with him. If he was healthy this past year (who really knows) then I think he is a player on the decline, not incline.

The best reason for keeping him is that he has beeen Romo's go to receiver for a long time. That is the best argument I can think of for thinking he cant be traded at any price. Every player (other than a franchise QB) should be expendable for some form of compensation. When the Herschell Walker deal was made, it was unequivocal that Walker was by far the best player, and most important player on the Cowboys roster.

Whole some, like Dooms pointed out in his reply, we are not a rebuilding team, how much better would we become with three brand spanking new first round picks, plus the ability to move up and down in THIS draft.

This draft could very well be the best year for a draft in a LONG time. Lots of players are coming out because of the uncapped year. There might be as many as 5 franchise type of QB's in this draft alone.

 

[the kid 05]

I'm intruiged by a trend I saw last year which the Cowboys should take heed. Witten has been a perennial pro bowler for many years. He is known as one of he very best, if not THE best at his position. Yet last year, his production took a significant decline, especially in the productions of toucdowns. Witten made plenty of yards, but he wasn't the dominating Witten of old.

If someone were to offer you a 1st and a 3rd for Witten, would you do it? Do it for two 1sts? How long can he continue to be a dominant tight end in the league? I know I will get crucified for bringing this up, but in reality, every player's career as a Cowboy will end at some point. I think the decision to keep players or not will be impacted to a huge extent by what happens with the next CBA reached.

The Patriots have remained on top for years by letting a player go before his production really tails off.

yup...

and no Witten is no where near the level of decline to where it would even be sensable to cut ties with him. the Patriots let players go who were old and wanted mega deals not because of their production trailing off

 

[tko112204]

Everyone kept saying MartyB was the next best thing to sliced bread. Now he is viewed by many to be an also ran. The year before last when Barber got his mega deal, everyone was saying Awesome, we have locked up the Barbarian. Now, after this year, he looks more like "Dancing with the Stars" material, you guys want to just cut him, for nothing.

I know that every poster who has vilified me above has a crystal ball that they are looking into and saying "Witten will have several more pro bowl years and remain an all pro tight end for many years to come". The problem with that premise is that it is an "opinion", not a fact. It is a glimpse into the future, and a wild *** guess. I think due to the wear and tear on his body over the past several years, I believe that Witten is a player on the decline. He is not dominating teams like he has in years past.

You can give reasons why he isn't putting up huge TD numbers as he has in years past. Some credit it to Austin's emergence (probably partially true), but some of it is also likely father time catching up with him. If he was healthy this past year (who really knows) then I think he is a player on the decline, not incline.

The best reason for keeping him is that he has beeen Romo's go to receiver for a long time. That is the best argument I can think of for thinking he cant be traded at any price. Every player (other than a franchise QB) should be expendable for some form of compensation. When the Herschell Walker deal was made, it was unequivocal that Walker was by far the best player, and most important player on the Cowboys roster.

Whole some, like Dooms pointed out in his reply, we are not a rebuilding team, how much better would we become with three brand spanking new first round picks, plus the ability to move up and down in THIS draft.

This draft could very well be the best year for a draft in a LONG time. Lots of players are coming out because of the uncapped year. There might be as many as 5 franchise type of QB's in this draft alone.

Geez son, will you just give up already? In a thread full of ridiculousness, that might be the most ridiculous post yet. Please name FIVE franchise QBs from this draft? And if you say McCoy or Zac Robinson, you might get banned. Also, how are we gonna get 2 first rounders from this draft from somebody? The 49ers have 2, but they have Vernon Davis and holes everywhere. You think they want to give up their draft for an upgrade at a position where they already have a Pro Bowler????

Actually, will you keep going? This keeps getting better.

As I said before: 94 catches, 1034 yards. Show me a decline. TDs are part luck based, especially on a team with multiple weapons, and one that struggled somewhat in the redzone. Don't tell me he didn't dominate teams late in the year. Ask the Eagles if they think Jason Witten is declining.

 

[Big Dakota]

Everyone kept saying MartyB was the next best thing to sliced bread. Now he is viewed by many to be an also ran. The year before last when Barber got his mega deal, everyone was saying Awesome, we have locked up the Barbarian. Now, after this year, he looks more like "Dancing with the Stars" material, you guys want to just cut him, for nothing.

I know that every poster who has vilified me above has a crystal ball that they are looking into and saying "Witten will have several more pro bowl years and remain an all pro tight end for many years to come". The problem with that premise is that it is an "opinion", not a fact. It is a glimpse into the future, and a wild *** guess. I think due to the wear and tear on his body over the past several years, I believe that Witten is a player on the decline. He is not dominating teams like he has in years past.

You can give reasons why he isn't putting up huge TD numbers as he has in years past. Some credit it to Austin's emergence (probably partially true), but some of it is also likely father time catching up with him. If he was healthy this past year (who really knows) then I think he is a player on the decline, not incline.

The best reason for keeping him is that he has beeen Romo's go to receiver for a long time. That is the best argument I can think of for thinking he cant be traded at any price. Every player (other than a franchise QB) should be expendable for some form of compensation. When the Herschell Walker deal was made, it was unequivocal that Walker was by far the best player, and most important player on the Cowboys roster.

Whole some, like Dooms pointed out in his reply, we are not a rebuilding team, how much better would we become with three brand spanking new first round picks, plus the ability to move up and down in THIS draft.

This draft could very well be the best year for a draft in a LONG time. Lots of players are coming out because of the uncapped year. There might be as many as 5 franchise type of QB's in this draft alone.

46 last year, 53 this year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

idk if he's considered impact or not, but I think we should let Sensabaugh walk.

 

[the kid 05]

idk if he's considered impact or not, but I think we should let Sensabaugh walk.

the guy was a decent force with 1 hand, imagine if he had 2 hands and a decent safety next to him

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the guy was a decent force with 1 hand, imagine if he had 2 hands and a decent safety next to him

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