The NO 2011 CAP THREAD........

[sonnyboy]

I'm reading a lot of cap related type discussions on whom we keep, cut, resign and try to sign.

I thought I'd start this thread to lay out a plan of mine for 2011 if we have no cap and ask some questions regarding current contracts it may make sense to dumb.....

Now I now I've posted this idea before, just not sure I started a thread about it.....

If we have no cap in 2011 I'd like to see Jerry put more of his profit where his mouth is. He's done this before, it's just that I think we may be real close now and a little extra effort/cash out-lay, could put us over the top and in a better/best position to compete for a SB over the next 3-4 years.

Take all the cornerstone players we have now and give them new deals.
Romo, Jones, Witten, Free, Ratliff, Ware, Spears, Bowen, Jenkins, Scandrick, Sensabaugh. We might also consider doing something with a handful of other young guys we feel real good about like Dez and Lee.

The idea here is to lock these guys up for as long as we feel comfortable and excellerate as much future comp into 2011 as is warranted, considering how much we trust the player.

Here's an example:
Ware gets a new deal for 5 years. No SB and salaries over the next five years of 25mil, 15mil, 10mil, 7mil, 5mil.

Now I don't know what his current deal is and if this reworked deal makes sense. It's just an example.
But the idea is to take a look at what the player is going to make if he's under contract the next 4-5 years or expected to make if signed now or resigned in a year or two......
And excellerate a bunch of that money in what might be the last uncapped year.

Then you take your other veteran players who are probably worth keeping but are currently so over paid, they're in danger of losing their roster spot:

Newman, Williams, Davis

Now this is tougher and we'll almost certainly want some monetary consessions on the part of these guys. Each deal will be different, but the idea is to maybe get a 50%-80% reduction on what their slated salaries are for 2012-2013, in exchange for more money in 2011 than they were already expected to be paid.

More money in 2011, for much much lower salaries going forward into 2012 and beyond. The other not so obvious benefit for the players here is the increased likelyhood they keep their roster spots in 2012 and beyond with real small salaries in line with a reduced role.


Jerry could easily reposition $100 million or more of compensation the team would most likely be paying out between 2012-2016 under furture cap rules, into 2011.

This would give us a HUGE competitive advantage over that time and in 2011.

We can now keep all our veteran FAs we want to.
We can now keep all our over priced veteran FAs who can still be useful.
We can now go out and sign Huff and Ashomugha without crippling our salary cap in future years.

 

[Yeagermeister]

They players will never accept a deal that doesn't contain a bonus.

 

[CCBoy]

There are two aspects in expectations here. First is the obvious cash flow element. The Agent, who advises the player, wants a quick return with additional benefit of possible increases in shorter term renegotiations evolving.

The second, is to a view of a stable and somewhat predicability of rooting for a player with a fan's chosen team.






Here, this could be 'shortened' description, to wit:

A player wants the most money possible. He therefore hires an Agent to maximize the negotiated potentials.

The agent is removed from emotional attachments and terms of sacrifice from the sporting entity himself. He therefore does not give vent to concepts as sacrifice, loyalty, and fan rewards.

The player and the Agent both know that they will attempt to make a 'professional' choice related to a short earning career to get the most money. There are only so many years to collect top dollars in this career.

Competition is dependent upon a team's ability to acquire, develop, and retain top players to their team's benefit. This is a seen value, that is important to both the team and the player alike.

Some players develop loyalty attachments as well, but often, if loyalty does not marry up with league high levels of potential, the Agent will discourage such loyalties.

Fans no longer root for a player to overcome and show dedication, but want stats and immediate success, in line with the extreme cash flow merit.

There no longer exists a deep set pride in the struggle to overcome, but merely in ultimate successes.

This can also be reduced to cash flow and not on the field and immediate success as well. This being where a player merely walks away after being a costly signing.

Therefore, a fan wishes that a contract signed with a player, will represent a more solid attachment in line with what that fan wants with the retention of a player.

Viewed by the fan, the contract has become a non-ending adjustment both in expectations of that fan. The need to comply with a cap, can push a still productive player off a roster due to purely financial manipulations concerning a cap figure.

Play is limited by preset cash considerations and not actual play and love that fans have of seeing their favorite players fondly connected with a team.

There is a joy in watching favored players and simple principals involved with sports and a fan's sense of sportsmanship as well. The contract, as observed, loses some of the merit in a structured and legal document. Expectation being proved over age in Common Law and was intended to provide.

This seems to project a never ending extension of a boxing format with endless rounds in the bout. Again depleting a simple attachment by a fan to stick it out with his chosen team and it's players.

Now to apply this to what you asked, it just isn't feasible in today's culture, to hit at base attachments on principals of contracts, and restart an entire process that reflects a picture of, hey guys, you are not subject to our now intended new direction. The protections involved with previously negotiated and individual contracts appear more subject to an arbitrary nature then.

The strength of a negotiated contract now is subject to what year are we in now, and we think a new set of rules now apply. Those not holding directly to the contract, but to the whim of a managerial convenience.

 

[burmafrd]

As late as the league year will be before it starts, it is pretty much a given there will be no cap this year. There might be a floor, possibly, as a one off but I doubt it. Most likely it will be 2010 rules again. So what Steven needs to do is to renegotiate as much as possible and dump every dollar thay can this year. IF we do that then when the cap comes back we will be in good shape. Now the problem is that I think we still have the 30% rule and the other restrictions. So we cannot go hog wild as much as some think we can.

 

[CCBoy]

They players will never accept a deal that doesn't contain a bonus.

Lol.

 

[speedkilz88]

As late as the league year will be before it starts, it is pretty much a given there will be no cap this year. There might be a floor, possibly, as a one off but I doubt it. Most likely it will be 2010 rules again. So what Steven needs to do is to renegotiate as much as possible and dump every dollar thay can this year. IF we do that then when the cap comes back we will be in good shape. Now the problem is that I think we still have the 30% rule and the other restrictions. So we cannot go hog wild as much as some think we can.

The problem is that Jerry will spend money but there is a limit to what he will spend in one year. He spent a lot last year just to retain a few of our guys without signing other clubs free agents like he will this year. And he still spent more than any other club last year.

 

[CCBoy]

As late as the league year will be before it starts, it is pretty much a given there will be no cap this year. There might be a floor, possibly, as a one off but I doubt it. Most likely it will be 2010 rules again. So what Steven needs to do is to renegotiate as much as possible and dump every dollar thay can this year. IF we do that then when the cap comes back we will be in good shape. Now the problem is that I think we still have the 30% rule and the other restrictions. So we cannot go hog wild as much as some think we can.

Good post, burma.

This is probably included in the projections involving the need to release a group of players to retain enough flexability to acquire upgrades at a small group of positions in addition.

Why we aren't hearing much about Colombo, Barber, or even a Spears.

 

[burmafrd]

Actually I doubt that is a problem at all; Jerruh will spend what he thinks he needs to spend.

 

[beevomav]

I thought bonus' were replaced with guaranteed money? Plus if you front load a players money for this season, when he gets to those seasons down the road they will want to renegoiate. That's how it has happened in the past.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I believe the team will pursue a renegotiation of TNew's contract that will keep him a Cowboy for the rest of his career. Both the Cowboys and TNew have said they want to stay together until the end of his playing days.