The notion that Dak has not evolved

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It seems a popular unfounded meme nowadays but I do not see any basis for this take.

I just think back to his first year where he was constantly put into rollouts where he only had to read half the field or zone read calls which only had him make 1 or two reads.

Fast forward to last season and he is going frontside backside, buying time and returning to the frontside.

And believe me i have been critical with his accuracy and mechanics. But at the very least i recognize how much he has improved dropping back from under center.

Frankly, if you are one with the take that Dak is at the same skillset he was at 3 years ago, i wonder what it is you are watching during games.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Good take.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I wonder what Moore has been watching. Is he going to be reading the defense this year before each snap for the QB? Maybe I didn't read that correctly.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I wonder what Moore has been watching. Is he going to be reading the defense this year before each snap for the QB? Maybe I didn't read that correctly.

The OC can only talk to the QB for so many seconds in the playclock and is then cutoff. There was article out there that Moore was going to do no huddle so that he could help Dak with his presnap reads.

We have not seen that here but McVay did that in LA last year to good effect. I don't know what his reads were or what they are going to be so i am not sure what to think if that is indeed the case.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I very rarely see the take that Dak hasn't evolved since 2016.

He ha dhis best year in 2016. True.

But like most players (and human beings) he has gotten better with time and experience.

The problem is....His ceiling is very low.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I very rarely see the take that Dak hasn't evolved since 2016.

He ha dhis best year in 2016. True.

But like most players (and human beings) he has gotten better with time and experience.

The problem is....His ceiling is very low.

I've seen it a lot in the Dak threads. I'm not going to call the people out but the argument is typically made when the idea of paying him top 5 money comes up.

 

[Batman1980]

Dak is worth about what Romo made in his prime.

 

[erod]

The question is, what to pay him?

The answer is so simple.

If Dak is truly worth $30+ million, then an elite back is unnecessary.

If an elite running back is necessary for Dak, then he isn't worth $30+ million.

His evolution is defined by the answer to that very question.

 

[Batman1980]

The question is, what to pay him?

The answer is so simple.

If Dak is truly worth $30+ million, then an elite back is unnecessary.

If an elite running back is necessary for Dak, then he isn't worth $30+ million.

His evolution is defined by the answer to that very question.

And if you're Jerry Jones, you just want triplets so you can sell tickets.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I like dak. The only real big issue I have is overpaying him. But the markets messed up so Dallas will have to unfortunately.

 

[darthseinfeld]

It seems a popular unfounded meme nowadays but I do not see any basis for this take.

I just think back to his first year where he was constantly put into rollouts where he only had to read half the field or zone read calls which only had him make 1 or two reads.

Fast forward to last season and he is going frontside backside, buying time and returning to the frontside.

And believe me i have been critical with his accuracy and mechanics. But at the very least i recognize how much he has improved dropping back from under center.

Frankly, if you are one with the take that Dak is at the same skillset he was at 3 years ago, i wonder what it is you are watching during games.

Ever notice how some QB's nowadays often have great first seasons and then fall off a cliff? You still have to grow your skill set, and alot of times that is going to lead to some bumps in the road. To me QB's don't hit there prime until their late 20's/early 30's. Up until that point, even the good ones you will get triumphs amd staggers

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

He is always going to have his own little set of problems. Which means he'll always be considered by some to be right under elite. Second tier. Good but not great.

Second tier is good enough to win multiple Superbowls if you add in a stout defense and a power run game.

 

[Nav22]

The question is, what to pay him?

The answer is so simple.

If Dak is truly worth $30+ million, then an elite back is unnecessary.

If an elite running back is necessary for Dak, then he isn't worth $30+ million.

His evolution is defined by the answer to that very question.

EVEN IF Dak needs Zeke in order to be successful, as you claim... what’s so terrible about keeping both around?

They’ve proven to be a very good duo and Dak has been successful, like it or not.

Dak’s a gamer with talent and strong intangibles, there’s no reason to think he won’t keep working his butt off to get better. Romo wasn’t a finished product until 2009 or so, his 7th season in the league.

83 total TD, 25 INT and a great W/L record with a BUNCH of game-winning drives. Dak even has a playoff win, something Romo didn’t get until his SEVENTH season (and 4th as a starter). A 96.0 career passer rating. On what planet is this a hopeless bum who is nothing more than average?? Ridiculous.

Amazing to me that there are so many Cowboys fans seemingly rooting against this guy. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. Dak seems to be a great guy off the field as well, and a leader who his teammates have FULLY supported since day 1. Success doesn’t come by accident.

 

[Melonfeud]

And if you're Jerry Jones, you just want triplets so you can sell tickets.

* ya, that "triplets" tattoo our FOOTBALL Dad had gotten on his butt,with Emmett's mug on the left cheek& Troy's mug on the right one, got's to have some current semblance of ongoing meaning,ya know?

LMAO

 

[Irvin88_4life]

EVEN IF Dak needs Zeke in order to be successful, as you claim... what’s so terrible about keeping both around?

They’ve proven to be a very good duo and Dak has been successful, like it or not.

Dak’s a gamer with talent and strong intangibles, there’s no reason to think he won’t keep working his butt off to get better. Romo wasn’t a finished product until 2009 or so, his 7th season in the league.

83 total TD, 25 INT and a great W/L record with a BUNCH of game-winning drives. Dak even has a playoff win, something Romo didn’t get until his SEVENTH season (and 4th as a starter). A 96.0 career passer rating. On what planet is this a hopeless bum who is nothing more than average?? Ridiculous.

Amazing to me that there are so many Cowboys fans seemingly rooting against this guy. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. Dak seems to be a great guy off the field as well, and a leader who his teammates have FULLY supported since day 1. Success doesn’t come by accident.

There is a video on YouTube that does every game winning drive Dak has had in 3 years...... hint, it's like 40 minutes long. It shows Dak making all the throws you need from a QB. Deep throws on the money, avoiding sacks and making stuff happen. It also shows how many times he picked up a crucial first down or TD but was called back because of holding.

Anybody that says Dak can't throw the ball needs to watch that video. They aren't going to change their mind even though they are wrong and have evidence to prove they are wrong.

 

[Rockport]

It seems a popular unfounded meme nowadays but I do not see any basis for this take.

I just think back to his first year where he was constantly put into rollouts where he only had to read half the field or zone read calls which only had him make 1 or two reads.

Fast forward to last season and he is going frontside backside, buying time and returning to the frontside.

And believe me i have been critical with his accuracy and mechanics. But at the very least i recognize how much he has improved dropping back from under center.

Frankly, if you are one with the take that Dak is at the same skillset he was at 3 years ago, i wonder what it is you are watching during games.

I don’t think the haters do watch the games. I mean they have the TV on, but don’t really watch and instead just wait until the national media talking heads say something and then they roll with it. Seriously.

 

[Rockport]

Ever notice how some QB's nowadays often have great first seasons and then fall off a cliff? You still have to grow your skill set, and alot of times that is going to lead to some bumps in the road. To me QB's don't hit there prime until their late 20's/early 30's. Up until that point, even the good ones you will get triumphs amd staggers

No, really haven’t noticed that. There’s been Dak and maybe 1 or 2 more but most rookie QB’s struggle their 1st year.

 

[Cowboys22]

So he had his best year as a rookie yet he has evolved? Evolved into what? An average QB being forced to do things he’s not great at? Is that what we want or should we want the Dak of 2016 who was allowed to do what he does best? I liken him to someone who was head and shoulders above everyone at their job, got promoted, and is now in over their head, is not very good at their new responsibilities, and is not the same quality employee they used to be. Dak can be great if the offense is designed for him and his skill set but if you are forcing him to try and be Troy Aikman so you can stubbornly run your idea of an offense, then Dak will likely never be better than average. That’s not who he is or ever will be. I’d be happy if they’d at least him him be himself on 3rd downs. He seemed to always find a way on 3rd down in 2016. I miss that.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It seems a popular unfounded meme nowadays but I do not see any basis for this take.

I just think back to his first year where he was constantly put into rollouts where he only had to read half the field or zone read calls which only had him make 1 or two reads.

Fast forward to last season and he is going frontside backside, buying time and returning to the frontside.

And believe me i have been critical with his accuracy and mechanics. But at the very least i recognize how much he has improved dropping back from under center.

Frankly, if you are one with the take that Dak is at the same skillset he was at 3 years ago, i wonder what it is you are watching during games.

From where I stand, posts like this is a waste of time. His critics are now using a few practice passes support their agenda. Whatever happened to simply winning games? The fact is he wins games. We were one bad defensive game from playing in the NFCGC last season. Here's a question? How many games we've lost over the couple years coz mistakes by Dak? I haven't bothered to look it coz I know the answer is not many at all. Does he have accuracy issues, sure he does ( part the reason he was a 4th rounder) but nowhere near as bad as his critic want you to believe. Just me, but I'm 100% confident he will win us at least one SB. Why? Leadership, and leadership again.....look it up and you'll see it means more than few bad passes(LOL).

 

[Hawkeye0202]

EVEN IF Dak needs Zeke in order to be successful, as you claim... what’s so terrible about keeping both around?

They’ve proven to be a very good duo and Dak has been successful, like it or not.

Dak’s a gamer with talent and strong intangibles, there’s no reason to think he won’t keep working his butt off to get better. Romo wasn’t a finished product until 2009 or so, his 7th season in the league.

83 total TD, 25 INT and a great W/L record with a BUNCH of game-winning drives. Dak even has a playoff win, something Romo didn’t get until his SEVENTH season (and 4th as a starter). A 96.0 career passer rating. On what planet is this a hopeless bum who is nothing more than average?? Ridiculous.

Amazing to me that there are so many Cowboys fans seemingly rooting against this guy. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. Dak seems to be a great guy off the field as well, and a leader who his teammates have FULLY supported since day 1. Success doesn’t come by accident.

Not sure where this notion of having an elite QB and RB became a crime ( well I know, it's a CZ thing). His critics are asking why you need both? BS and that with a capital BS.......hell, if that's the case, what about Aikman and Emmitt or Roger and Dorsett. All FOUR are HOFers ........guess at two have no business in Canton by Dak critic standards (LOL).